SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread

[twistedtoy92]

Nice runner! Gotta love the 1st gens

[63W]

Great looking rig. Makes me wish I still had my '85 runner.

[SqWADoosh]

My motor is running too hot. I need to get a new radiator. I have far too small of one right now. I am torn between getting the 3 row csf raditor that came in 22RET and V6 trucks or going the aluminum route.

[twistedtoy92]

Go aluminum buddy, thats what I'm doing in my runner.

[1985CRAWLER]

3 row aluminum

nice runner!

[BigBluePile]

hmmm.....aluminum.  Heard they can vibrate and crack...............

[twistedtoy92]

hmmm.... cheap plastic crimped on end tanks or factory brazed tanks.... or tig welded aluminum end tanks... now thats a real tough one... lol!

[SqWADoosh]

Go aluminum buddy, thats what I'm doing in my runner.

Can you link me to the rad you are going with?

3 row aluminum

nice runner!

Do you have a link to the rad you are going with?

[1985CRAWLER]

Do you have a link to the rad you are going with?

no link, already have had my rad for a few years now with my 22re.....3 row v6 rad out of a wrecked 3.0 4runner, keeps it cool and never had a heat issue.

bolted right in too.

[63W]

I'm a big fan of keeping it toyota [emoji106]

[SqWADoosh]

no link, already have had my rad for a few years now with my 22re.....3 row v6 rad out of a wrecked 3.0 4runner, keeps it cool and never had a heat issue.

bolted right in too.

Ahhh then you mean 3 row brass? The v6 radiators were indeed 3 rows but not aluminum.

[SqWADoosh]

I'm a big fan of keeping it toyota [emoji106]

Me too but I'm not a big fan of paying $500 for a radiator.

[OVRAROK]

I purchased all aluminum one from eBay, was like 165, had for over 3 years now, no leaks, truck has never even came close to overheating

[1985CRAWLER]

Ahhh then you mean 3 row brass? The v6 radiators were indeed 3 rows but not aluminum.

ya but i mean you should get a 3 row aluminum rad and never have to worry about it getting hot.. they make them, i just went with the v6 3.0 rad just cuz it was available.

hows the rest of the cooling system?

[SqWADoosh]

The rest of the cooling system has less than 60k on the clock (the swapped motor had 50k when it went in). I'm fairly certain it is a radiator problem. I will do some digging into 3 row aluminum rads but I have only been able to find 1-2 rows that fit our trucks.

[SqWADoosh]

So I found this one here however it is for the 88-95 range. I'm assuming that is because that is when the V6 came out (1988) and they are assuming only guys running a V6 would need that radiator? The mounting holes are the same on our trucks as the 2nd gen guys right?

[84Flatbed]

I went with a csf 2314, it was listed as being for 84-95 4runners and 86-95 pickups. I'm still not sure why the fitment  years are different between the 4Runner and pickup, I put it in my 84 and it fits fine. Not as fancy as that aluminum one but it is 3 row all metal and unlike the v6 rads the filler is in the center.

[SqWADoosh]

I went with a csf 2314, it was listed as being for 84-95 4runners and 86-95 pickups. I'm still not sure why the fitment  years are different between the 4Runner and pickup, I put it in my 84 and it fits fine. Not as fancy as that aluminum one but it is 3 row all metal and unlike the v6 rads the filler is in the center.

What motor are you running brother?

[84Flatbed]

84 22r with efi swap. I will say I haven't had much time with this radiator so I can't really say how well it cools or will last.

[SqWADoosh]

84 22r with efi swap. I will say I haven't had much time with this radiator so I can't really say how well it cools or will last.

I appreciate the feedback all the same.

[John Doe]

Guess I'll chime in...

So I found this one here however it is for the 88-95 range. I'm assuming that is because that is when the V6 came out (1988) and they are assuming only guys running a V6 would need that radiator? The mounting holes are the same on our trucks as the 2nd gen guys right?

Yes the mounting holes for the radiator is the same from 84-95

prior to my 3.4 swap I picked up a aluminum  radiator for a 3.0 to use with my 22re from 1800 Radiator

Yes it is the Plastic topped lower cost unit, but it has help up great, and last I remember 1800 Radiator has a pretty good warranty. Still using the same radiator with my 3.4 with no issues.

[twistedtoy92]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-1995-Toyota-Pickup-4Runner-Champion-3-Row-Core-Alum-Radiator-/251568247789?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a92a2d3ed&vxp=mtr

This is what I'll be running, well worth the money and its built pretty damn beefy.Then a nice shroud and electric fan setup  as well. 

[SqWADoosh]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-1995-Toyota-Pickup-4Runner-Champion-3-Row-Core-Alum-Radiator-/251568247789?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a92a2d3ed&vxp=mtr

This is what I'll be running, well worth the money and its built pretty damn beefy.Then a nice shroud and electric fan setup  as well. 

I was looking at these as well until I did some googling and found quite a few negative experiences with them leaking.

[twistedtoy92]

Where are they leaking exactly?

[helipilot77]

I helped my neighbor install an aluminum radiator that he purchased from ebay. After installing it we discovered that it had a pin hole leak in the top tank. I later found out that it was a China rediator. I would discourage people from buying auto parts on eBay. If the part goes wrong it can be impossible to recover your losses. Why wouldn't you go straight to a manufacturer who will warranty the product? You may have to pay more, but you will likely get a higher quality part... My

[SqWADoosh]

Where are they leaking exactly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl1hI6cFd7Q

That jeeper did a direct comparison between the CSF and Champions and if you read his video description it will discourage you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTmQj_JjEGw

Another jeeper having trouble after only 2.5 months.

Some more threads with headaches:

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1092297

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/5-0l-talk/325744-has-anyone-had-bad-champion-radiator.html

That is all I have time to find right now however a google search for "champion radiator problems" will yield you some more.

[SqWADoosh]

I helped my neighbor install an aluminum radiator that he purchased from ebay. After installing it we discovered that it had a pin hole leak in the top tank. I later found out that it was a China rediator. I would discourage people from buying auto parts on eBay. If the part goes wrong it can be impossible to recover your losses. Why wouldn't you go straight to a manufacturer who will warranty the product? You may have to pay more, but you will likely get a higher quality part... My

Yeah Nate I just cant find any that are not made in China that are not going to be over $500.

[twistedtoy92]

Bummer. Go with Toyota v6 3 core then...

[OVRAROK]

being that I sell and buy on ebay, I have found that you can search by distance, using this feature has been good to me, I usually will pick up most items, I think common sense goes a long way on the internet, I have returned more parts to the local parts store for being defective, than on parts purchased on ebay

[twistedtoy92]

I've had really good luck with ebay myself... a few cheap parts and fitment issues but if you research like ovrarok stated then you usually can get some great deals on quality parts!