Topic: 85 xtra cab REBUILD

[tgmaul88]

this just got dropped off in my driveway



 186,000 arizona truck 22re solid axle! 


It been sitting for three years and will not hold a idle, but it still has bad gas in it.
lots to come  any ideas or part you have let me know need a blue dash pad

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=4401.990  has to do with making shock mounts like big mikes

[Rocksurfer]

Yeah, don't run the bad gas through it, or welcome to your nightmare.

[Rocksurfer]

....and it's a nice looking rig.

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

Its been started, but Im going to drain it,  Im bidding on an oem filter on ebay, super cheap,  going to go check the timing and adjust the valves , run either some seafoam in the gas or run some lucas fuel cleaner   what nightmares have you encountered?

[85runner_]

Nice clean rig! Just don't wheel it hard beat the body to hell and build a buggy out of it. It's what I did and although I like the buggy I miss the clean straight lines of the once stock 85 4runner

[Cheesemaker]

Lucky find there Tyler!!     I almost had a 85 extra cab.  But uncle was offered $4000 cash for his on a car lot.   Salesman bought it personally.   Jerk!!!  I was supposed to get it.      Oh, well!!   

[THK Matt]

very nice tyler!!!! jealous.

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

i picked it up for my dad, whos still driving his single cab s10 . it needs a few things. it was an old mans truck and he wore them timing chain through the cover PO drained it twice and filled it twice but theres alittle water in the oil left over,  not claiming a HG yet but we never know,  last night i drained he gas tank and the gas was brown. glad thats not getting ran through.  ordered a oem engine kit today for my 89 motor, going to get a motor done and on he shelf for whatever. used my 81 today to haul two cut up geo metros to the scrap yard no pics but i was turning heads the whole way. stacked!  94 in metal not to bad working on allot of stuff ordered a disc brake conversion for the rear ifs axle i have today from a local4x4 page 100 full kit.  ill be build my ifs rear axle soon, ill get some pics

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

Looking for a chrome grille for this thing  also i need the door handle trim things  the piece thats screwed to the door where the latch is.   Now im also in the market for the oh so hard to find 81 rear tailgate,, I have one on my TBT  or for you that dont know its short for truck bed trailer  but the back has the two latches instead of one central latch, any way to convert?

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

for personal reference  http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1990-1995_4Rnr/Toyota.4Runner.1990.1995/FSM/95toypdf/95rmsour/1995/954runne/eg1/engineme/cylin.pdf

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

so tonight I tore into the truck 
Finished draining the old gas,  put some fresh gas in.
Bolted the skid plate back up ..
So after buying a truck that I have very little history on, I have to see for my self kind of approach so I remover the air box and inspected the flapper, things looked good there, so I proceeded to pull the valve cover, hmm. things get interesting. A very small amount of a milky residue was waiting for me in there on the valve cover and on the head bolts and alittle in the head pools,   So Still a small hint to possible HG but not too fast.  I put the engine on TDC and noticed that the cam gear was a tooth off! go figure  no wonder why she wouldnt hold an idle. Also I noticed that there have been plastic guides put back in,  fail.   
So Im going to order up a set of steal backed guides for the old girl. Do it all over again now im rebuilding to 22re s in my barn  with 2 geo metro motors to do also FUN . 

Plans for tomorrow : remove crank pully
possibly take cover off,  I want to wait kind of until I get the guides, I know that they are just a modified 20r guide, can i just call the parts store and order a 20r steel guide instead of ordering it from some kit I dont need, who get them from the parts store.   

I am going to check all the fluids too.

on another note I have my 98 4runner with a cat going bad, So im going to drop that section and Reem her out, I dont run cats here. Also trying to find time to either re jet my webber on my 81  or start the efi swap   waiting till it gets cooler

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

alittle update, I tore into her today, drained the milk shake out the bottom : ( nasty. Upon removing the timing cover i found the two bolts that hold the water jacket to the block were next to loose, and no rtv on the long one  hmm, could this have been the whole cause??? After looking and looking I noticed the oil pump gear teeth had abnormal wear so
Im blaming a crappy after market timing cover for not being true. didn't line up. and a crappy mechanic for all of this to happen, not tightening bolts   total half assed. So i ordered LC engineering timing chain kit for 150 and some head bolts, and some rod bearings ( since the entire motor got flushed with anti freeze) 
Q. Can i change the rod bearings with the motor still in the truck?? 
*** should i do Main bearings also
things dont seem to be lining up, with the head and block, maybe they didnt use the alingment dowels.  also I see a FELPRO head gasket so  I will be doing the HG now, ive oredered 2 from toyota,, one full engine kit and one plain old gasket.  fun stuff !

[chim]

Good looking truck, I want to find something like that for my son for when he is able to drive

I have seen people change rod bearings while motor still in truck... its possible to do main bearings too.. its just looks like a pain. Its simple to pull these motors so I would do it that way and make sure it was all clean and sealed up properly.

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

I know a few years back I was doing a 2wd HG and Had it down to the block in the truck,  idnt know why i didnt just pull it out, I may pull it,  Ive had a complete hooked up 22r out in under 2 hours and one in under 2 1/2   
I ordered all my bearings and gaskets  they should be coming soon,   the old man doesnt know if he wants to keep it or sell it, once he drives it im sure he will re consider the selling part. the motor will be decked out!

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

more pics to come I am editing them

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

my little work station

my valves  So I thought why buy new valves?     hmm My old one seemed good so I took them to my local machine shop and for 28$ had all 8 valves ground. So no after market valves just ground oem ones Im allot happier with oem
got my bottom end put all together
rods mains thrust and  rings all new

this one is next   itz going under the knike soon



I need this piece of trim
looking better
installed some new topper shocks
my crappy quad
some random carnage

 and the storm that was north of us

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

So I pulled the motor out of the truck today, pulled the head and found all the cylinders washed, the PO used sand paper to "resurface" the head, the block had strange wear in the second cylinder and suprisingly there was no ridge. no over size shown,. the lower end was kinda scary, as was the lifter adjustment studs, scary worn and put together dirty and ran with water. then sat.

So Im thinking about putting this newer motor in it, It will be done allot sooner and doesn't need to be bored

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

alittle update. took the head and block to the machine shop had them decked milled and bored .20 over
installed the freshly polished crank, ill post some bearing carnage.
had the valves ground and seats ground. it looks good. will be painting soon.  ive collected almost all parts all thats needed is a set of rocker arms and tappets.
i managed to pick up a arb delux bull bar bumper for this girl needs alittlee modification but will fit.  pics to come, 

[tgmaul88 [OP]]

freshy

carnage

i replaced this seal


valves

fresh milled head





color choice