Author Topic: red mountain trails (Read 34297 times)

4-lo · « **Reply #150 on:** Jul 17, 2012, 12:17:31 AM »

Quote from: Rocksnail on Jul 17, 2012, 12:10:16 AM

How bad is the road to sand flats? I tow with a reg cab tundra an a 16 foot trailer, I dont mind a bumpy road, just dont want to beat up my truck an trailer. Id like to be able to have my truck in camp. Are there any areas near the corals that are legal camp sites? thanks for the replys

pass the corral right before the tight turns there are a couple but its right next to the road and it will be dusty with all the traffic.

4-lo · « **Reply #151 on:** Jul 17, 2012, 12:22:53 AM »

i say unload and drive up to the flat with one of your rig then you make the call. there are lots of places to camp at the flat so you dont have to worry about finding a spot...only thing is no water nearby.

Rocksnail · « **Reply #152 on:** Jul 17, 2012, 09:20:31 AM »

Thats what i have been thinking about. just unload my rig and drive to the flats to check it out. thanks for the info guys,

4-lo · « **Reply #153 on:** Jul 17, 2012, 10:58:47 PM »

here is our trip to coyote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVD2wVS3QBY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

dntsdad · « **Reply #154 on:** Jul 19, 2012, 12:14:27 PM »

Quote from: TaroVr6 on Jul 16, 2012, 03:22:59 PM

Sandy flats would be kinda tough to get a trailer into but there's plenty of spots to camp before that, make sure you stop at the ranger station and get a free campfire permit!

No need to stop or search for a ranger. Answer a few question and print at home.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/passespermits/campfire_permit/campfire-index.html

cencalwheeler · « **Reply #155 on:** Jul 19, 2012, 10:31:03 PM »

Very useful. Thanks for the link.

monk #1164 · « **Reply #156 on:** Jul 20, 2012, 06:52:20 AM »

found this on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=c2XQyHGSs88

E YOTA · « **Reply #157 on:** Jul 22, 2012, 12:01:15 AM »

seen that already..pretty cool...the trails look alot easy then

cencalwheeler · « **Reply #158 on:** Jul 22, 2012, 12:40:57 AM »

That is a cool video. Rigs have really changed over the years.

4-lo · « **Reply #159 on:** Jul 22, 2012, 04:11:54 PM »

i think we should hit the trails on our 29.5" all weathers...

85-4roller · « **Reply #160 on:** Jul 22, 2012, 07:56:14 PM »

That is a great video. It brings back the memories of a time before the forest service closed some of the best camp spots at Red lake, that I stayed at in the late 60s with my family. The trail was also in much better condition until the forest service lined it with boulders & forced all traffic into one narrow rut . We used to drive in stock jeeps & toyotas easily, until the late 80s. Grandpa said the coyote trail used to loop all the way out to brewer & 168. Ducy also had a side trail all the way to dinky lake. I hope the future generations don't experience the shrinkage of usable forest lands that I have witnessed.
Help stop the madness, vote out a liberal.

Dirt Mover · « **Reply #161 on:** Jul 23, 2012, 06:20:35 PM »

I think the trail is more fun now than ever. The downer is the that they control when we can and can't go in. On Moonlight Madness weekend the Gatekeeper had a hour and a half wait. It used to be hard to find firewood at Coyote, but now it's hard to find a place to park.

4-lo · « **Reply #162 on:** Jul 23, 2012, 06:40:03 PM »

Quote from: Dirt Mover on Jul 23, 2012, 06:20:35 PM

I think the trail is more fun now than ever. The downer is the that they control when we can and can't go in. On Moonlight Madness weekend the Gatekeeper had a hour and a half wait. It used to be hard to find firewood at Coyote, but now it's hard to find a place to park.

x2

they should have a requirement and not to exceed 33"tires. that way it will be more of a challenge

Dirt Mover · « **Reply #163 on:** Jul 23, 2012, 08:35:03 PM »

86 Turbo auto on 30's is the future

Joey88RUNR · « **Reply #164 on:** Aug 09, 2012, 04:43:13 PM »

Thinking about heading up this weekend. anyone going up?

toyotech · « **Reply #165 on:** Aug 09, 2012, 05:52:13 PM »

Quote from: 4xsports on Jul 23, 2012, 06:40:03 PM

x2

they should have a requirement and not to exceed 33"tires. that way it will be more of a challenge

i done just red lake on 32s and IFS hehe

monk #1164 · « **Reply #166 on:** Aug 09, 2012, 07:43:29 PM »

Quote from: Joey88RUNR on Aug 09, 2012, 04:43:13 PM

Thinking about heading up this weekend. anyone going up?

thinking about i...still thinking

mountainguyed67 · « **Reply #167 on:** Aug 10, 2012, 12:50:41 PM »

Quote from: 85-4roller on May 09, 2012, 03:02:02 PM

Did you know that that trail used to loop through coyote, beryl & out to brewer lake, before the enviros infiltrated the forest service.

This was proposed and went through the Enviromental Impact Studies,then died and never happened. We have an older club member that likes to tell the story,he was the one that proposed it.

I'm glad it didn't happen,I like Brewer the way it is.

coontailcrawler · « **Reply #168 on:** Aug 11, 2012, 06:45:28 PM »

Thatd be really cool if it did loop through though

Joey88RUNR · « **Reply #169 on:** Aug 12, 2012, 01:10:52 PM »

Went into Mirror lake for the first time, Fun trail

mountainguyed67 · « **Reply #170 on:** Aug 12, 2012, 02:59:41 PM »

Quote from: coontailcrawler on Aug 11, 2012, 06:45:28 PM

Thatd be really cool if it did loop through though

It would really change Brewer.

If they did it,it would have to go from Red. Coyote is surrounded by wilderness.

Joey88RUNR · « **Reply #171 on:** Aug 12, 2012, 03:55:04 PM »

This was the fun spot

Goldrush · « **Reply #172 on:** Aug 12, 2012, 04:25:04 PM »

Mirror is fun. Short but fun. That one tree will get your cab pretty bad if you don't have a cage. Lol

Joey88RUNR · « **Reply #173 on:** Aug 12, 2012, 05:35:15 PM »

Quote from: Goldrush on Aug 12, 2012, 04:25:04 PM

Mirror is fun. Short but fun. That one tree will get your cab pretty bad if you don't have a cage. Lol

Yea I came close,I just put it in granny gear and crawled it. it wasnt bad as I expected it to be. I have heard a lot of talk about that spot.

TimberlineBryce · « **Reply #174 on:** Aug 13, 2012, 10:35:39 AM »

That's the tree that broke my window:((

85-4roller · « **Reply #175 on:** Aug 13, 2012, 07:32:16 PM »

If they did it,it would have to go from Red. Coyote is surrounded by wilderness.
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It was not "wilderness" back then, just public land that families could enjoy. The trail went from coyote, you can still see a slight trace of it when you get to coyote. At coyote it takes a right & heads toward either beryal or tocher lake, then down to brewer. I will try to find the map that shows the old route & post it. Note, that was all public lands before the enviro wackos took over. How would our generation feel if the dusy loop was shut at one end? Think it wont happen, history shows there is a very high probability that it will.

mountainguyed67 · « **Reply #176 on:** Aug 14, 2012, 12:37:11 AM »

Quote from: 85-4roller on Aug 13, 2012, 07:32:16 PM

you can still see a slight trace of it when you get to coyote. At coyote it takes a right & heads toward either beryal or tocher lake, then down to brewer.

That's a foot trail,my boys and I have walked it 2-3 times. Some maps can be confusing because they show foot trails and 4WD trails the same way,as a broken line.

mountainguyed67 · « **Reply #177 on:** Aug 14, 2012, 10:58:44 PM »

Ok I talked to one of our early club members at tonights meeting,he joined in 56. He says there was never a 4WD trail from Coyote to Brewer. He says your grangfather may have driven over there,but it wasn't a trail. In the early days the entire forest was open to vehicles,then when it got out of control they started limiting it. So maybe there was even enough traffic to make it look like a trail,but when they started requiring people to stay on the trails it would have had to stop. He isn't aware of this happening though.

85-4roller · « **Reply #178 on:** Aug 15, 2012, 08:00:55 PM »

Back in the days of Willys & tote goats, after WW2, if it looked like a trail it was a trail, legally . Some of these trails evolved & remain open , but most have been closed. The amount of "damage" that these "out of control" trails made was so small that they have disappeared, much like the closed 4x4 trail up to the devils bathtub that is only slightly noticeable at cold creek.

mountainguyed67 · « **Reply #179 on:** Aug 16, 2012, 01:23:35 AM »

As far as I know the only ones that remain open were the ones built by the club. None of the user created ones survived. It's good to still have someone in the club that goes back far enough to know this stuff. The guy I'm talking about was one of two guys that did the blasting while building Dusy-Ershim 56-68.

E YOTA [OP]

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