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Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« on: Jul 28, 2011, 06:46:31 PM »
 I feel I could benefit from being even lower than I am!!!! I've talked to alot of people and everyone is telling me it's a bad idea to go any lower!! I know the dual 4.7's is a little much.. You'd have to put it in 3rd gear just to pull someone out LOL!!! Anyone know if there's a 4.0 kit or has anyone tried this combo???

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #1 on: Jul 28, 2011, 07:13:56 PM »
What type of wheeling are you doing where lower gears are necessary in your opinion?

Have you considered getting glasses so thing don't appear to be coming at you so fast!
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #2 on: Jul 28, 2011, 07:18:31 PM »

Have you considered getting glasses so thing don't appear to be coming at you so fast!

HAHA, that's funny.
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #3 on: Jul 28, 2011, 07:28:05 PM »
What type of wheeling are you doing where lower gears are necessary in your opinion?

Have you considered getting glasses so thing don't appear to be coming at you so fast!
Yes I have lol.. I thought I was crazy:) I do alot of canyon crawling, rock crawler, trail stuff.. So is this a Dumb question???

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #4 on: Jul 28, 2011, 08:04:01 PM »
What tires size and r&p are you running?
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #5 on: Jul 28, 2011, 08:36:18 PM »
i think there is a 5.0 or 5.1 ratio available, i know my brother has something like that in his dual cases and with 5.29 he is slower than most
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #6 on: Jul 28, 2011, 09:08:02 PM »
get smaller tires...

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #7 on: Jul 28, 2011, 09:14:40 PM »
theres 5.1 gears from advanced adapters. or you can do dual 2.28s
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #8 on: Jul 28, 2011, 09:24:00 PM »
run three cases if you want to be lower .then youll have all the gear selection  you want2.28 2.28 4.7
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #9 on: Jul 28, 2011, 09:57:51 PM »
For most applications the 4.7 is way more than enough, the main reason for even having duals is that the 4.7 is already too low and having the 2.28 balances things out for general offroad travel while the 4.7 is there for crawling. When I had duals in my Samurai (Klune-V) I would have my front stock case in high 4wd most of the time and the Klune in low and very rarely would put the front in low.
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #10 on: Jul 28, 2011, 10:28:42 PM »
I use to have 4.7 gears in both cases with 35's and 4.56 gears.  It was awesome in the rocks for those special situations but it sucked for everything else.  I like to also do snow wheeling and it just wasn't practical in the snow.  I switched one of them out for a 2.28 and have been much happier.  Everyone once in a while i wished I had that low gearing, however overall its much better.

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #11 on: Jul 28, 2011, 11:00:04 PM »
35's 5:29's!!!!

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #12 on: Jul 28, 2011, 11:05:00 PM »
3 cases would be great!!!! Anyone think the drive shaft angle would be to great?

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #13 on: Jul 28, 2011, 11:50:42 PM »
I don't know how going lower would be of any benefit, marlin has triples, but seriously... the dual ultimate setup is crazy low as it is...
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #14 on: Jul 29, 2011, 12:11:12 AM »
Triples are for show, they have no real benefit.
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #15 on: Jul 29, 2011, 12:15:06 AM »
True,  i run quads...

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #16 on: Jul 29, 2011, 12:39:39 AM »
i got the 5.0s in the rear of my case and that way to low for me
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #17 on: Jul 29, 2011, 04:45:01 AM »
I forgot about the 5.0!!! I'll take the 4.7 out and install it. Thanks guys. I heard the 5.0 is weak?? Is this true?? Anyone ever heard of these breaking??

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #18 on: Jul 29, 2011, 06:09:27 AM »
you really think that .3 is going to give you what you want? that is such a small amount that you wont even know that you switched.if you really need lower gearing witch i cant see why. Then go 3  cases and a hp front diff to fix your dline.
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #19 on: Jul 29, 2011, 06:49:50 AM »
is this guy for real or what ???
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #21 on: Jul 29, 2011, 07:58:05 AM »
I agree with the "get new glasses" comment...or maybe do some super duper reflex exercises like they do in NASA to work on your eye/hand coordination. :talkingn:  Honestly, to me, running low, low, low with 2.28/4.7/5.29's is almost sleep inspiring...only to be used in the absolutely most technical sections where tire placement is beyond crucial.  If you can't keep up with this combo, you should perhaps choose a new hobby....like quilting. :screwy:
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #22 on: Jul 29, 2011, 08:50:00 AM »
You guys are to cool!!! Look.. It's just a thought!!!! I just wanted too see what you thought and I got my answer..

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #23 on: Jul 29, 2011, 12:10:57 PM »
I think if you went with dual 4.70 gears you would regret it because you wouldn't have the stock low range.  Try it out by not using the stock low range for a while and see if you miss it.  Only use the 4.7 and 4.7 x 2.28 and see how happy you are.  Going 5.0 vs. 4.7 would be a waste.  The 5.0 is actually rounded up so it's less than a .3 difference.  You'll get that by airing down your tires.

I read about one guy with dual 4.70s and he wheeled in low low 3rd which is about low low first in the dual ultimate.  In Moab I often have to gear up a bit with 2.28, 4.70, 4.88 and 35's because a little momentum is required for a climb.  Low Low 2nd or 4.70 1st are the great options from my experience and 4.70 1st is the golden gear if you need a little bump.
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #24 on: Jul 29, 2011, 05:40:58 PM »
where's bigmikes photo of 6 or seven cases?

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #25 on: Jul 29, 2011, 05:49:39 PM »
Nah, Mike's is a "Decuple Transfercase System". 
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 29, 2011, 06:34:49 PM »
^^^^ that's the greatest thing I've ever seen... LMAO!!!

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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #27 on: Jul 29, 2011, 09:47:57 PM »
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I feel I could benefit from being even lower than I am!!!! I've talked to alot of people and everyone is telling me it's a bad idea to go any lower!! I know the dual 4.7's is a little much.

A 5-spd turbo transmission has a lower first gear, not sure how much difference it will make, but it might be just enough.
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Re: Dual's w/ 4.7 not low enough?????
« Reply #28 on: Jul 30, 2011, 01:17:55 AM »
decuple?

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