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Well while fixing the runner I have decide that I want to change the name. Well I have decided it will now be known as "Project 5150" Now I come to all of you with some questions.

Ok so what I want is:
- 6" lift
- Hi-steer
- 35" Toyo open Country MT
- full exo
- small block for price sake
- Auto tranny
- Dual cases with 4.7 in the rear case
- 5.29 gears
- Toyota axels

Ok so now I need some input. With the gearing I am wanting to run and the tire sizes I would like;
- Can I run Bobby Long shafts and not have a problem?
- Are the Brute Force U-Joints the way to go?
- Are the gears TOO low?
- I want to flog this thing; where are my major week points?
- Will the "Green Machine" alternator with 1 optima yellow top be enough to run offroad lights?

Any help would be great. The engine i have. The tranny is coming soon. I have both cases. I will por 15 the entire frame when I do the swap. The entire inside will be bed lined. Let me know what you think.

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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #1 on: Oct 26, 2009, 11:32:18 AM »
So I have been doing some looking around at seats since mine are ummm... how do you say... TOAST. I was looking at the procar sportsman pros.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SCA-80-1606-62L/#
has any one ran these or know if they are worth $150 per side? just wondering



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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #2 on: Oct 26, 2009, 12:42:47 PM »
4-500 horsepower with toyota everything else seems a little scary to me.

how about a 4" lift and cut the fenders some. with an exo that things gunna be top heavy up that high.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #3 on: Oct 26, 2009, 12:54:27 PM »
how much trimmin we talking to get 40s
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #4 on: Oct 26, 2009, 01:13:55 PM »
ok so here is thee deal. I am looking to do the lift first. but with out a job I am a little short on the green stuff. so I want to make sure i have EVERYTHING before i start.

So if you all could help me make a list. what I have on the list so far

1.) 63" chevys DONE
2.) 4" all pro ft springs DONE
3.) new bushings done
4.) hi steer kit DONE (for an awesome price)
5.) IFS box DONE
6.) extended brake lines DONE
7.) Bobby longs Longfield.com - $630.00 30 spline
8.) 4.88 gears or 5.29 input would be great on this ( i am going to be running duals, and I have 4.7 right now) done except the lockers (5.29)
9.) Material for shackels and mounts Done
10.) 6 stud kit
11.) shocks ( BUT HOW LONG?) done
12.) shock mounts (home made) Done
13.) Chevy 350 SB Working on it. Its under the hood just need to hook it up
14.) TH 350 trans Picking up the new output shaft
15.) AA TH350 to Toyota top shift Done
16.) Square Tube ft drive shaft Done
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I know I most likely orgot some stuff but I don't want to have the runner sitting 4 a month because I forgot something. I can run on the 31s with the lift till I can get tires but I need it to be able to be driven. what else am I forgeting.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #5 on: Oct 26, 2009, 01:33:18 PM »
HMMMM... I just did some adding over 2k with only the prices i have listed it may be the end of winter for this to happen. oh well I can still play with 31s and open 4.10s LMFAO :rofl2: :think: :bull crap:
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #6 on: Oct 26, 2009, 01:58:58 PM »
how much trimmin we talking to get 40s

you know what, i couldnt tell you but its not going to be that much and you can make it look clean if you take your time.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #7 on: Oct 26, 2009, 03:36:05 PM »
dingman just put 40s on his 2nd gen runner with a saggy 4 inch trail gear sas and 63 chevys in the rear with a 1 or 2 inch block. im pretty sure he has little or no trimming done to it.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #8 on: Oct 26, 2009, 04:04:28 PM »
this is kinda what I was thinking for the exo and the big purple areas will be cut out. Basically lose as much sheet metal as possible.

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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #9 on: Oct 26, 2009, 11:00:36 PM »
So when I put in the "used" engine, the guy i bought it frim said it was perfect runner. well we got it put in and it has valve knock like you would not believe. I took it in to a speed/mach shop in town adn he said that i might be able to get 30k out of it with out issues (other than the loss of power and the god forsaken noise) well I took my head from the blown engine and droped it off at his shop to get inspected to see if it was ok. well he called me back and said i need 3 exhaust valve (it was cracked) but he said for 304.48 i could have new intake and exhast valves put in 3 angle, deck the head and port and polish. well disassembly was $32.50 cleaning and reassembly was $32.50 teh new valve was $7.50 and the hone on all the valve seats was $65.00. that is $140.50. for another $160.00 I get a brand new head that was magna fluxed (or what ever they do) for cracks, hot tanked and ready to go. The decission was not hard.so I should see the head by friday.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #10 on: Oct 29, 2009, 07:48:10 AM »
so I got a present back from the shop yesterday. I think it is beautiful. Hopefully it will help wwith the god awful ticking

all new valves


Had to make the brackets look good


The Color - Far all who thinks black is boring


All together


I hope to have it on next weekend. I have all nw head bolts and the full gasket set
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #11 on: Oct 29, 2009, 08:45:24 AM »
So I went and priced teh steel for my cage. form what I have been told I will need about 200 feet. Well it will be about $500. Me and Eric were looking at my runner last night and he thinks we are going to have to cut my sliders back and reweld it. But I am going to do the lift first then worry about the cage and other stuff.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #12 on: Oct 29, 2009, 09:07:55 AM »
So after some research I have changed teh design of the exo a bit.

What do you all think? It will be 4 hoops instead of 3 (1 in back, 1 in over rear pass, 1 behind the drivers comp, and 1 across the wind shield




edit: I seem to have missed the cross bar on teh top of well you get the idea
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #13 on: Nov 02, 2009, 02:26:24 PM »
ok so I can't do a lot right now due to limited funds but I can keep going with the little things.

This is a trick I learned from my buddy eric
I have notched the hinges to allow for easier removal of the doors


Here you can see how they are both notched


and here you can see the two bolts I use to hold the doors on


the doors a crazy stout with only 2 bolts per door
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #14 on: Nov 03, 2009, 03:15:15 PM »
So I did a little more work today. did some painting. Timed it the best I could. Put all new vacume lines on it.

painted teh wheel to match the hubs... I need to paint the lug nuts



pile-o-vacume lines



this is a trick I stole for ease of vacule lines



color coded zip ties



so like I said no money so the things are going to be cheap and easy for now.
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Re: Project formally known as wheelies
« Reply #15 on: Nov 12, 2009, 08:14:33 AM »
so we took teh runner out last night.


man i need a lift and tires
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 13, 2009, 04:39:42 PM »
i had 40's on my 90 truck with 3inch body 2 inch shakel drops and cranked torsion bars an trimming jus beat the cab corners bout an inch and a half cleared perfectly
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 13, 2009, 04:42:59 PM »
i did that 2 my doors only i cut the hinge that bolts 2 the cab and welded a pin in the door part of the hinge and gusseted the cab hinge worked great an u dont dee the hinge jus hanging there
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 13, 2009, 04:44:58 PM »
i like the green valve cover also i painted mine orange as i am making it into the general
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 14, 2009, 01:39:22 AM »
very nice. I paln on putting the head on after I get off work. I don't really care if the hinges are hanging there. But I saw a jeep with 39s last night and it inspired me. I told my wife that is how high I want my runner.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 15, 2009, 09:43:10 AM »
i kno a gut that cleared 36"s stock so shouldnt be hard 2 get 39's under it
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 15, 2009, 04:04:06 PM »
well I got the new head on today. MAN IT LOOKS GOOOOOOOOODDDD. I will get some pics in a bit. But then I found out that my oil pump is bad.  :shudder:
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 17, 2009, 03:00:56 PM »
so I guess I will be running 38s to start. I have a buddy that bought a set of 38s and less than 100 miles later he blew up the truck and sold it for parts and kept the tires and rims. the tires are mickey thompson baja mtz 38 16.50 15 and the rims amercian racing rims for $1000. he paid $2100 with mount and balence.

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« Reply #23 on: Dec 08, 2009, 12:45:43 PM »
so with no job and no money the project is slow going. but I was able to get some offroad lights installed.



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« Reply #24 on: Feb 16, 2010, 06:42:19 PM »
so there has been no real "project" progress. for some reason I blew another head gasket and had to fix it. well I got a GREAT job and back at the project. I have $600 right now. what should I do. you all know the plans so let me know what you think.
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 17, 2010, 07:16:53 PM »
So I have heard of people having issues dustroying their wires in their fenders when cutting out their fenders so I decided to pull the wire back through and run it through the engone bay. I have the pass side done. easy with the stock gromet there to run it through but the drivers side is going to be fun because I have to put a hole in the fire wall and get a gromet that will work.
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 18, 2010, 08:47:27 PM »
If I were you I would through your runner away and buy a second gen you have kids!!! LOL just kidding think you should go without the exo just flog the hell out of it. You don't care if it looks good just as long as you can have fun. :thumbs: :beer:
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« Reply #27 on: Apr 05, 2010, 06:14:53 PM »
well i picked up a TG hi steer kit for the amazing price of $150.00 brand new  :clap2: :clap: so maybe this weekend we can start lifting this thing
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2010, 07:16:22 PM »
I need some help. I am doing the life next weekend. I am doing ruf and chevys. should I get new shackels? if so how long. I got my fenders cut for the most part. also a buddy of mine let me barrow his bender (l-cheap-o). I know "you get what you pay for" but i have seen ALOT of stuff built with one of these benders. How do I keep the tube from colapsing or creasing.
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wicked90runner and my toy



the event 90 runner and I were in. He says i got screwed and I should have at least gotten 2nd in the timed obstical course but I had fun
Me in the front, Buddy Kyle in the middle and wicked90runner in teh back

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