Glen's budget rebuild

Started by 79coyotefrg, September 26, 2004, 05:30:02 PM

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79coyotefrg

I just talked to Angelo  at Marlin,  he said he believed  my L52SHD  that he built  for me  would hold up to the turbo,  so   we  will see  :disturbed:
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4inchToyotas

haha. I don't supposed either of those trucks had bucket seats?
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1983 Hilux - 20/22r Weber 32/36 carb, 4" ProComp suspension, 5.29's Lockrite Front, Spool rear, 34x10.50x15 LTBs

79coyotefrg

they have the  seats  with the fold down arm rests

i'll get some pics
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2006 Tundra DC 4x4 - DD/Tow (if I can ever find a place to store a trailer)
1983 Hilux - 20/22r Weber 32/36 carb, 4" ProComp suspension, 5.29's Lockrite Front, Spool rear, 34x10.50x15 LTBs

79coyotefrg







now how much of the wiring harness  do i have to  swap  to use this in my first gen
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Willy Mammoth

Nice frame.

BTW the turbo won't be good for high speed driving as you will need to buy the highest octane you can get to keep the motor together.  :bling:

You will have a better time with the EFI without running the turbo. Now if you make the wastegate open at higher speeds it will work better, but you don't want a bunch of boost under a load at high speed.  :shake:


If it was diesel it would be a differant story.
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79coyotefrg

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4inchToyotas

you know, the 22r would probably be less hassle in the long run. It would sabotage the RTE while you were sleeping.  :driving:
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Willy Mammoth

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on November 05, 2007, 04:14:55 PM
:down:
ah man :down:

Just find a way to open the wastegate so it bypasses the turbo and saves the engine a high speed.

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Willy Mammoth

Quote from: 4inchToyotas on November 05, 2007, 04:19:32 PM
you know, the 22r would probably be less hassle in the long run. It would sabotage the RTE while you were sleeping.  :driving:

Reliable is beter and I know that thing goes.  :yupyup: And 87 is cheaper too.
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skid

Quote from: Willy Mammoth on November 05, 2007, 04:23:30 PM
Just find a way to open the wastegate so it bypasses the turbo and saves the engine a high speed.


Neat thing about turbos, no boost when not needed.  So, if you can pull x amount at 55 mph with a n.a. motor, you should be able to do the same with a turbo motor at low boost.  Just how fast you want to go.  Stock, the turbos aren't a hugh peak boast setup. Not much to worry about in stock form, other than stock turbo replacement at 100,000 for preventative maintenance.
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79coyotefrg

ok, so how much boost  would be too much :dunno:

and  how much does the stock turbo put out :dunno:
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79coyotefrg

:willynilly:  i gotta learn new stuff  :willynilly:
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skid

#1244
Just from memory,  I want to say 6-8 peak stock.  Will have to do some research to be sure.

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it runs a ct-20 turbo at low psi, 5.5 to 6 psi.

http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...tech_notes.htm

"The 22RTE Turbo engine was based on the later model 22RE (short block /tall head). This is a similar but entirely different block and head. The block was drilled with different oil passages to accommodate the Turbo oil requirements. The cylinder head's combustion chamber had a different shape. The piston was dished. Advertised horsepower was 145. The factory set the boost at 5.5-6 pounds, but completely stock internals survived boosts of up to 17-22 pounds, with proper fuel injection modifications. This is a testimony to the bulletproof bottom end design. Nitro / Methanol fueled dragsters, producing in excess of 1100 HP- used the original (modified) crankshafts and TOYSPORT pistons!"



on a side note, ever thought of turbo on propane?


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skipnrocks

You can run propane with a turbo right?
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skid

yep, propane's high octane loves boost.
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Willy Mammoth

For a DD propane would just be a pain.

When you start having all these wild ideas, just say to rourself, self, keep it simple stupid.

You will want to do a head gasket (with a good one) before you put in the turbo and keep an ear out for any pinging. (Sounds like marbles in a blender) Just think of that ping as being a sledg hammer being dropped on top of your piston at full swing as it is trying to come up.

I am only saying this from experiance. Don't expect the turbo to make you go faster, but more like get there quicker.
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I'm beginning to lean towards Mark's wisdom. Stick with KISS.

I say get your truck up and running with the engine you have. It runs, and runs well. It's ready to go. It will be easy to get running with your donor cab and frame.

But, do hang on to the turbo engine, harness, etc. needed to run the setup, and maybe one day swap it in, but not after you prove it runs and doesn't need major work before you pull it. :twocents:
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79coyotefrg

i see what your saying Mark,  i  dont need to go faster really  but  pulling up top speed  faster  would be sweet

although  i have to admit  my old engine is nothing to laugh at  :eyebrow:
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: YotaJosh on November 05, 2007, 05:19:49 PM
I'm beginning to lean towards Mark's wisdom. Stick with KISS.

I say get your truck up and running with the engine you have. It runs, and runs well. It's ready to go. It will be easy to get running with your donor cab and frame.

But, do hang on to the turbo engine, harness, etc. needed to run the setup, and maybe one day swap it in, but not after you prove it runs and doesn't need major work before you pull it. :twocents:
or  since dud gave me the title to the turbo truck  i could rebuild it with IFS ???


NAH  i need parts 
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skipnrocks

Quote from: Willy Mammoth on November 05, 2007, 05:12:01 PM

When you start having all these wild ideas, just say to rourself, self, keep it simple stupid.


This coming from the guy that has the jeep that im pretty sure had every piece wittled out of a block of iron that he mined himself!!!
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Quote from: skipnrocks on November 05, 2007, 05:26:37 PM
This coming from the guy that has the jeep that im pretty sure had every piece wittled out of a block of iron that he mined himself!!!
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79coyotefrg

:haha:  yea  but he has all the good  whittling tools :yesnod:
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skid

Quote from: Willy Mammoth on November 05, 2007, 05:12:01 PM
For a DD propane would just be a pain.

When you start having all these wild ideas, just say to rourself, self, keep it simple stupid.

You will want to do a head gasket (with a good one) before you put in the turbo and keep an ear out for any pinging. (Sounds like marbles in a blender) Just think of that ping as being a sledg hammer being dropped on top of your piston at full swing as it is trying to come up.

I am only saying this from experiance. Don't expect the turbo to make you go faster, but more like get there quicker.
Catch 22 with the KISS.  Stock 22ret worked pretty good.   Two down falls the stock turbos are iffy after 100,000 and the stock computers didn't like any mods.  Propane, a pain to fill, would be simpler fuel setup with easier future for improvement.  After have a v8 "mutt" toyota,  I've grown very fond of being able to go the parts store and get replacement parts, not order them.  Which with the v8 never happened.  So a stock toyota setup would get my vote.    
In the the big money picture, if you are looking for more power than the stock 22r,  a 3rz or 2rz would be a excellent option, other than a different tranny than the l52hd you have.  EFI would be a plus for driveability and mileage.  If your comfortable with a little wiring, ret.  If not sell the setup and run the 22r.
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79coyotefrg

ok  i KNOW  my motor  is dependable and strong,  but  thought it would be cool  to see how  the 22rte  performed  compared to  my  22R :dunno:

ok, i'll pull the wireing harness and  turbo engine,   and  rig something so i can start it  and see how she runs

or  get it running in the truck then pull it  :dunno:
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Willy Mammoth

IN truck is much easier

Put money down on good running truck that is done, but needs minor mods. had my vote from the begining.
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Quote from: Willy Mammoth on November 05, 2007, 06:13:45 PM
IN truck is much easier

Put money down on good running truck that is done, but needs minor mods. had my vote from the begining.
so  run the  one ive been running ?   yea   i think i better,  as long  as it didnt get  messed up,  i bought some cut off blades today  for my  circular saw,  easier to hold onto than a angle grinder,  to cut the front clip off the wrecked truck
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THK Matt

man i wanted to see yours have a TRE
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YotaJosh

SAS the turbo truck!  :think:

All you need is a spring hanger, some frame tubes for the shackles, and 1.5" wheel spacers to match the rear. You have the high steer, and springs, and tons of front axles.

But, it's not a round eye first gen...
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