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4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« on: May 20, 2008, 02:05:14 PM »
Has anybody seen the newest 4WD Toyota Owner Magazine yet?  The cover truck that started life as a Toyota only has a 2 foot section of frame and the 22re engine remaining.  It is basically no longer a Toyota.  Don't get me wrong I think its a cool truggy but It belongs on the cover of Crawl Magazine not the cover of one Dedicated to Toyota's.  I think the cover truck of a Toyota Magazine should be a Toyota.  what do you guys think.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 02:11:49 PM »
The mag owner (Dave?) wouldn't even give the mammoth the time of day when we were out there the last couple years, and it is all Toyota except in body.
So I guess as long as it LOOKS like a Toyota then that is all that is required.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 02:28:33 PM »
It doesn't even look like a Toyota, its a tube buggy.  It has a big Toyota emblem.  That's it.

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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 02:30:41 PM »
 :offtopic:  but that passenger looks like he's gotta take a dump

The emblem must make it a Yota
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 02:32:32 PM »
Do you consider the formula toyota's to be "Toyota" enough? :greengrin:

They are 100% Toyota (minus the body)


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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 02:49:06 PM »
Do you consider the formula toyota's to be "Toyota" enough? :greengrin:

They are 100% Toyota (minus the body)


Yes. FToys heve complete toyota frames with original suspention mount pionts. Toyota tranny, axles, etc. 

This cover truck literally only had the 22re engine....And the emblem
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 02:53:29 PM »
Yes. FToys heve complete toyota frames with original suspention mount pionts. Toyota tranny, axles, etc. 

This cover truck literally only had the 22re engine....And the emblem
Fixed it for ya, you can also take out; steering, asperation, fuel system and so on.

About the only things toyota on those is the drivetrain, frame, and axle housings.

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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 03:07:15 PM »
At what point do you consider a vehicle titled as a toyota, not a toyota? The Willy Mammoth, with as much toyota and custom fabrication as it contains, is still titled as a Willy's. The cover vehicle started as a 2wd toyota, and obviously still holds the title.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 10:03:25 PM »
It doesn't even look like a Toyota, its a tube buggy.  It has a big Toyota emblem.  That's it.


I like it  I would be happy if that was my TOYOTA
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 11:05:02 PM »
Its got birfs so it must be a yota.... :gap:
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 11:32:04 PM »
Is that the GotPropane.com Buggy?...What the hell?,I haven't got my copy yet  :down:
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 11:36:51 PM »
Has anybody seen the newest 4WD Toyota Owner Magazine yet?  The cover truck that started life as a Toyota only has a 2 foot section of frame and the 22re engine remaining.  It is basically no longer a Toyota.  Don't get me wrong I think its a cool truggy but It belongs on the cover of Crawl Magazine not the cover of one Dedicated to Toyota's.  I think the cover truck of a Toyota Magazine should be a Toyota.  what do you guys think.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 11:42:40 PM »
Is that the GotPropane.com Buggy?...What the hell?,I haven't got my copy yet  :down:
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2008, 04:49:33 AM »
Its got birfs so it must be a yota.... :gap:

No it doesn't. Its got a Ford 9" with 1550 Knuckles.

At what point do you consider a vehicle titled as a toyota, not a toyota? The Willy Mammoth, with as much toyota and custom fabrication as it contains, is still titled as a Willy's. The cover vehicle started as a 2wd toyota, and obviously still holds the title.

Is it still titled as a Toyota?  Looks to me like both places that contain the VIN plate are no longer there.  The Willy Mammoth is more of a Toyota than this thing.  Because of its Toyota Pedigree and its Gotpropane stuff I think that both this truggy and the Willy Mammoth are worthy of the pages of 4WD Toyota Owner Mag I just don't think they belong on the cover. 

Do you think you will ever see a Toyota Truck with (sorry for the blasphemy) a Jeep drivetrain or a buggy with a non Jeep powertrain on the cover of JP Magazine?
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 05:04:53 AM »
O boy ....................... Ok   the Mammoth is a Willies ( OEM )    Then modified  with toy parts but is still a willy.

Now the truggy on the cover I don't know anything about, but if it started out as a toyota ( OEM ) then modified it's still a yoda.


Now heres where it gets tricky.   Say you build a frame/ chassis from scratch  and use toy parts.    Is it a Toyota  :dunno:   Custom made toyota.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2008, 08:56:49 AM »

Do you think you will ever see a a Jeep drivetrain or a buggy with a non Jeep powertrain on the cover of JP Magazine?

yes, think of all the chevy powered jeeps on one tons.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 12:22:58 PM »
yes, think of all the chevy powered jeeps on one tons.

Are you a news anchor or what?  :shake:  You edited what I said to mean something else.  I said, "Do you think you will ever see a Toyota with a Jeep drivetrain or a buggy with a non Jeep powertrain on the cover of Jp Magazine?"

Yes I am aware that there are tons of Chevy powered Jeeps with 1 ton drivetrains.   Thats the only way to make them survive on the trail.   But they are Jeep bodies.   If you can produce a cover of JP magazine that shows a complete tube buggy with no Jeep body parts or drivetrain then I will gladly admit defeat.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 01:47:43 PM »
No it doesn't. Its got a Ford 9" with 1550 Knuckles.




So those  aren't bobby's orange 60 birfield boots in that axle?  I can't really make it out too well to be sure but it looks that way from here.   
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 07:23:35 PM »
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2008, 07:27:26 PM »
those look like bobbys axles
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2008, 07:34:11 PM »
O boy ....................... Ok   the Mammoth is a Willies ( OEM )    Then modified  with toy parts but is still a willy.

Now the truggy on the cover I don't know anything about, but if it started out as a toyota ( OEM ) then modified it's still a yoda.


Now heres where it gets tricky.   Say you build a frame/ chassis from scratch  and use toy parts.    Is it a Toyota  :dunno:   Custom made toyota.
what about Nascar  ford, chevy ,Toyota    are they realy  ford ,chevy,Toyota's .The manufactures says there are but,    there built in race shops.   
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2008, 07:38:49 PM »
 :funny:

:rofl:

....and some of it even made sense.
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2008, 05:01:47 AM »
i think your low on :beer: UNC....you spelled stuff right


ya on meds = no :beer:   
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2008, 05:37:21 AM »

ya on meds = no :beer:   
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2008, 08:28:36 AM »
that just makes meds better
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2008, 09:22:19 AM »
that just makes meds better

Not antibiotics.

And to answer a few questions. The Mammoth is still titled as a Willys so I get your point and I would never expect something like that on the cover of a magazine like that, I just thought a sort of 'when is a Toyota not a Toyota' kind of story would be fun.

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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2008, 07:55:41 PM »
That thing was once more toyota that most of todays built toyotas. Toyota pumps through its veins, and so I say yea its a toyota, just like the mamoth! Well mabye not just like.... :gap:
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2008, 03:13:24 PM »
Quit complaining. Cary's TOYOTA is about as badfawkinass as it gets. It has come a long ways in the last few years. I remember seeing that thing in AZ with bungee cords holding the t-case shifters in gear and stock shackle plates used for gussets for the front spring hanger.  :talkingn:  That thing got it then and it definetly gets it now.  I for one was stoked to see it on the cover of 4wdToyotaowner.  :beerchug:

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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2008, 09:46:29 PM »
to me if a toyota still has a toyota engine and frame than its still a toyota
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Re: 4WD Toyota Owner Mag complaint
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2008, 10:45:33 AM »
to me if a toyota still has a toyota engine and frame than its still a toyota
i would agree with this for the most part. i would say if its toy engine, frame or running gear id rep it as a toyota. :dunno:

making the mamoth a toyota in my eyes. :yesnod:
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