dog shot by dumb cop in fresno

[CrawlerBrennan]

o tonight i went to tower with louis and even and it was lame even got a ticket from a f#g of a cop and then we went down the street to talk to a real cop about it and while we were talking we heard bang(x5) and the cops were like fireworkes and started to go look and then they wer like shots fired and wer like WHATTT and uh so all the cops go down there and we start running down there cuz we wer like whats goigng on, what haopened was a dumb a#s cop- 2 dogs got ib a fight, one was a stray pit, one was a lap dog of some old man that he had on a leash.. and the dogs started fighting.. the copsprayed the pit bull with MASE and then instead of just tazering the dog... UNLOADED 5 shots into the dog with people ALLLLLL around. afterwards wer standing across the street.. and a buncha cops start coming around like what are you doing?! and they answer "wer looking for stray bullets that could of hit.. cars, buildings, or PEOPLE."

tower is f###in crazy. what a night.

[Not A Toy]

I think if a dog was attacking the other and then wouldnt stop it should have been shot. you can say maybe the lap dog was attacking it buuuuuut then it would have stopped when maced? just my two cents. still crazy with people all around, altho they are trained fairly well with there weapons.

[CrawlerBrennan]

the people were not even 2 feet away and he missed thats why he shot 5 times but yes the dog needed to be killed

[Not A Toy]

dang man thats nuts. I like that blue man its sweet

[CrawlerBrennan]

thaks man

[Hammerhead]

That's definitely BLUE. 

[94MtnYote]

the dog needed to be controlled  but it sounds like a but a ricochet could have easily hit someone.
trigger happy cops  pissed about the incoming super Tuesday results?

[Huhwhye]

I think if a dog was attacking the other and then wouldnt stop it should have been shot. you can say maybe the lap dog was attacking it buuuuuut then it would have stopped when maced? just my two cents. still crazy with people all around, altho they are trained fairly well with there weapons.

Ya, like that cop that was trying to shoot a snake out of a tree and killed that kid.  Know your backstop, bullets travel far.

I assume this officer was careful, thankfully, but they are not always so

[Not A Toy]

Ya, like that cop that was trying to shoot a snake out of a tree and killed that kid.  Know your backstop, bullets travel far.

I assume this officer was careful, thankfully, but they are not always so

ha I never heard that story man. sounds crazy!

[Huhwhye]

Here you go

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/06/boy.killed.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[Not A Toy]

! that sucks.

[NorCalToy]

damn, that really sucks, the cops around here are that retarded. 

[BLACKDOG]

You ever tried to pull an angy full size pit off something that it was attacking?  Dogs pretty much have a one track mind, but pits, due to their size and strength are near impossible to make stop doign something without a lot of force.  Cop definitely shouldn't have had to take 5 shots to kill it though.  And he should have ahd all the people back away.

[DTB]

You ever tried to pull an angy full size pit off something that it was attacking?  Dogs pretty much have a one track mind, but pits, due to their size and strength are near impossible to make stop doign something without a lot of force.  Cop definitely shouldn't have had to take 5 shots to kill it though.  And he should have ahd all the people back away.

I watched a pit tear my pomeranian in half...literally..wasnt much I could do...I tried spraying it with a water hose and it didnt even phase it...

[Lady Di]

You ever tried to pull an angy full size pit off something that it was attacking?  Dogs pretty much have a one track mind, but pits, due to their size and strength are near impossible to make stop doign something without a lot of force.  Cop definitely shouldn't have had to take 5 shots to kill it though.  And he should have ahd all the people back away.

The first post says the two dogs were in a fight, that is not the case at all. The lap dog was on a leash, it was attacked by the pitbull. If it was 'fighting' it was only to try to defend itself.
The cop probably got freaked out by the situation and got a little carried away, but he wanted to make sure it stayed dead.
If there was a pitbull attacking my dogs I would want the cops to do whatever it would take to kill the b*std mongral. That is horrible. Even if it was a bit of overkill I applaude the cop for doing what it took to save that poor man's beloved pet.

[BLACKDOG]

The first post says the two dogs were in a fight, that is not the case at all. The lap dog was on a leash, it was attacked by the pitbull. If it was 'fighting' it was only to try to defend itself.
The cop probably got freaked out by the situation and got a little carried away, but he wanted to make sure it stayed dead.
If there was a pitbull attacking my dogs I would want the cops to do whatever it would take to kill the b*std mongral. That is horrible. Even if it was a bit of overkill I applaude the cop for doing what it took to save that poor man's beloved pet.

Agreed.  however, if a cop gets "freaked out" by a pit attacking a lap dog, I don't want to see what happens when he is dealing with someone wielding a gun at him,  or actually shooting at him.  If the situation is truly as the poster said, and there were people gathered around, firing 5 shots is inexcusable.  It means the cop has crappy aim, or was too far away, and there is a lot of risk of ricochets and wild shots going into people when they are gathered.   I too would want the cop to take care of the situation, sucks for the pit, but thats the way it goes, but the way it appears the cop handled the situation is extremely unsafe.

[AR80Toy]

 I've had good pit's and bad pit's . However I do not blame this on the breed . I am sooo tired of people labeling them as some bad dog . I've seen several breed of dogs that are aggresive . I do agree the dog needed to be put down , but it's just the fact that when people yell pit everything gets out of whack and people go crazy . Here in Arkansas they are banning them in every city and I do not think that is right , I do agree that only respectful people should own them !!!!! Pit Bulls are a wonderful breed and should not be banned all together , yes they have the ability to kill but so does many other breeds . I will never own another breed of dog as for a companion , they will protect you and even die for you , that is how loyal they are to there owners if raised right , can you say the same about your lap dogs

[stoken82]

i agree with BD

the cop could have tazed it or something... instead of closing his eyes and firing until he hears the blood hit the ground.

i live in fresno and i have not been impressed by our law enforcement.  they tend to over react.


on another note

one problem with saying pits are bad or what ever is not everyone one hundred %of the time can correctly identify.

i own a 55 pound female pit i know she is pit cause i know who the mom and dad are...

anyways i have been proven wrong, calling a dog a pit when it really wasnt, along with many vets i know.

anyways some dogs that look similar to pits do bad things and then they get called pits. which hurts the breed further... .. i have even heard someone call a mean little pug a pit bull   

in my opinion the bad owners need to be put through the same torture they have created and the dogs need to be rehabilitated...

here is a little test type of thing i have seen a better one but i cant find it.   

http://www.chako.org/breedtest.html

the world is not bad... it just has bad people.


Matt

"Lichen"

[Not A Toy]

I watched a pit tear my pomeranian in half...literally..wasnt much I could do...I tried spraying it with a water hose and it didnt even phase it...

not to be rude but thats a funny visual. you outside spraying a dog with water. but that does suck poms are cute little suckers.

[Huhwhye]

I've had good pit's and bad pit's . However I do not blame this on the breed . I am sooo tired of people labeling them as some bad dog . I've seen several breed of dogs that are aggresive . I do agree the dog needed to be put down , but it's just the fact that when people yell pit everything gets out of whack and people go crazy . Here in Arkansas they are banning them in every city and I do not think that is right , I do agree that only respectful people should own them !!!!! Pit Bulls are a wonderful breed and should not be banned all together , yes they have the ability to kill but so does many other breeds . I will never own another breed of dog as for a companion , they will protect you and even die for you , that is how loyal they are to there owners if raised right , can you say the same about your lap dogs

A couple of my friends have some big Pits, and they are some of the sweetest dogs.  Well behaved and good with people and kids.  Its all about the owner.

[46&2]

If another damn chihuahua ever attacks my pitt again im going to have the cops shoot it if i dont pull the trigger myself

[Lady Di]

Agreed.  however, if a cop gets "freaked out" by a pit attacking a lap dog, I don't want to see what happens when he is dealing with someone wielding a gun at him,  or actually shooting at him.  If the situation is truly as the poster said, and there were people gathered around, firing 5 shots is inexcusable.  It means the cop has crappy aim, or was too far away, and there is a lot of risk of ricochets and wild shots going into people when they are gathered.   I too would want the cop to take care of the situation, sucks for the pit, but thats the way it goes, but the way it appears the cop handled the situation is extremely unsafe.

yeah good point, and I forgot too he could have tazed the dog which would have been even smarter.
It's a shame all around.

[BigMike]

In my small little world I live in, one thing I've noticed is in high school there were a couple of tough guys, I wouldn't say they were bullies (they never fought anyone), its just that they didn't care about school much and they liked to be in control of things. They were also upper classmen to me. Well, 4-5 years later, I am in college, and I've since bumped in to 3 or 4 of these same guys, and I'm like "hey! how's it going?" and it turns out every last one of them become cops.

There are people who can't live without being in control, or having some sort of power, and this is what I thought about when I read this thread.

BigMike

[V-Man]

Agreed.  however, if a cop gets "freaked out" by a pit attacking a lap dog, I don't want to see what happens when he is dealing with someone wielding a gun at him,  or actually shooting at him.  If the situation is truly as the poster said, and there were people gathered around, firing 5 shots is inexcusable.  It means the cop has crappy aim, or was too far away, and there is a lot of risk of ricochets and wild shots going into people when they are gathered.   I too would want the cop to take care of the situation, sucks for the pit, but thats the way it goes, but the way it appears the cop handled the situation is extremely unsafe.

I got no problem with the five rounds..but maybe He could have drove the pit to the ground and emptied the weapon. He may have gone bit himself.. But I learn early that if you've got to kill it..stick the cannon up it's  and empty the weapon.

[Huhwhye]

I learned shot placement is the most important thing.    15 rounds don't mean squat if only some hit the target, and 1 kills some innocent kid fishing with his grandfather because the shooter is a moron.

[V-Man]

I learned shot placement is the most important thing.    15 rounds don't mean squat if only some hit the target, and 1 kills some innocent kid fishing with his grandfather because the shooter is a moron.

  I had to shoot a bear once.. I stuck the double-barrel 12 gauge in it's face and pulled the trigger...both barrels loaded with four 62CAL. lead musket balls opened it's back like a walk-in-closet.  You got to hold your self together,  you can freak out after the problem is over..

[topar]

Well here I go being the unpopular one again but since I am a police officer.  Were any of you there and actually saw what happened?  No, then how can you call him a dumb cop and say he over reacted.  You were not there and did not see it.  I will grant Big Mike this there are some police officers that are bullies, I think they are a small percent but I personally have worked with some of them and try to stay clear of them whenever possible.  Usually the department knows who they are but cant do much because they do not do enough to get them in trouble and yes I agree that those are usually the guys that were wannabe bullies in high school or the ones that got picked on allot and now they can pick on others.  I think this is a small percent though.  As far as the shooting.  In all the training I have ever taken I have been taught to shoot until the subject is down and the threat is over.  I cant say I would shoot with a group around but have never been in that position.  How do you know all those people were around when he was shooting the dog and they did not just run up afterwards like you did?  As far as tasers go he probably did not have one.  I don't know any officers that have them in any of the jurisdictions around here.  In one of the larger city near here the sergeants carry them but if the sergeant is not there what good does that do anyone and this all comes down to budget.  It cost allot to run a PD.  The shooting someone put a link up to about a boy getting shot I have not read yet but will before the night is over.  I think it is funny that so many people like to talk so much trash about police officers and how much they hate the police but sure do love us when they are the victim.  I try very hard to make a positive image at all times and to do everything possible to help people out, but you also have to remember most people say negative things about police because they were doing something they should not have been doing and got caught or they heard some else talking bad about the police and it is the cool thing to do to agree with them.  So in these situations who is the bad guy? 

[V-Man]

 I think must of the people here are working on the idea that the officer was a little careless with his shots, and the chance of a person being hit by mistake.  You are right that there are many that will "ride the band Wagon" and trash talk cops because it's the cool thing to do. 

  The original post was from a "witness", but this may or may not be true.   


I mean I've met a few bad and a few more good, so that's life.  A example is a state trooper at a weight scale inspecting trucks.. He confiscated three knifes with four inch blades from a guy, but let me keep my pocket knife, a eight inch fillet knife, and a twenty four inch machetee when I told him I use them for work(pocket knife) or when I was fishing around the states.  I showed him a couple licences and the tackle box, and he said " ok no problem, put you stuff away and head out. "
 

[Not A Toy]

Well here I go being the unpopular one again but since I am a police officer.  Were any of you there and actually saw what happened?  No, then how can you call him a dumb cop and say he over reacted.  You were not there and did not see it.  I will grant Big Mike this there are some police officers that are bullies, I think they are a small percent but I personally have worked with some of them and try to stay clear of them whenever possible.  Usually the department knows who they are but cant do much because they do not do enough to get them in trouble and yes I agree that those are usually the guys that were wannabe bullies in high school or the ones that got picked on allot and now they can pick on others.  I think this is a small percent though.  As far as the shooting.  In all the training I have ever taken I have been taught to shoot until the subject is down and the threat is over.  I cant say I would shoot with a group around but have never been in that position.  How do you know all those people were around when he was shooting the dog and they did not just run up afterwards like you did?  As far as tasers go he probably did not have one.  I don't know any officers that have them in any of the jurisdictions around here.  In one of the larger city near here the sergeants carry them but if the sergeant is not there what good does that do anyone and this all comes down to budget.  It cost allot to run a PD.  The shooting someone put a link up to about a boy getting shot I have not read yet but will before the night is over.  I think it is funny that so many people like to talk so much trash about police officers and how much they hate the police but sure do love us when they are the victim.  I try very hard to make a positive image at all times and to do everything possible to help people out, but you also have to remember most people say negative things about police because they were doing something they should not have been doing and got caught or they heard some else talking bad about the police and it is the cool thing to do to agree with them.  So in these situations who is the bad guy? 

perfectly stated!   I have two uncles that were in law enforcement, and a great friend that is a seargent for the Utah highway patrol. I absolutely hate the thingy suckers that say   stupid cop, cop, dumb fuc* cop,   all i have to say to them is who's the first person you call when someone is breaking into your house at night or when someone rear-ends you at a stoplight. theres bad people in every aspect of life and in every line of work. next time you think about bad mouthing the cop that pulled you over for speeding just think......   he may very well save your ass someday!

[topar]

I think must of the people here are working on the idea that the officer was a little careless with his shots, and the chance of a person being hit by mistake.  You are right that there are many that will "ride the band Wagon" and trash talk cops because it's the cool thing to do. 

  The original post was from a "witness", but this may or may not be true.   


I mean I've met a few bad and a few more good, so that's life.  A example is a state trooper at a weight scale inspecting trucks.. He confiscated three knifes with four inch blades from a guy, but let me keep my pocket knife, a eight inch fillet knife, and a twenty four inch machetee when I told him I use them for work(pocket knife) or when I was fishing around the states.  I showed him a couple licences and the tackle box, and he said " ok no problem, put you stuff away and head out. "
 

His original posts states that he ran to the scene afterwards and did not see the shooting.  This is what I was going by.