sweet. thanks guys. im trying to build a center console for my first gen for my switches eventuially. I think im going to divide it up. Instead of having my cb and scanner with my console im going to put them side by side against the pass seat and make a switch console and put that parallel with my drivers seat so i have about 4-5" space between teh two for my shifters. you think that will be enough room? if not i can always bent the shifters to fit right?