Topic: Sad Day on Bald 5-6-07

[Talon84x4]

If this is approved.

I know that there is quite a bit of interest in doing a Clean-Up the Tower day or weekend from one of the clubs I'm in called 4x4Him Christian Wheelers. Could turn out to be a neat event.

That would be great, i'll definately let you know if I hear anything back  , i've been looking for a club to join too 

Question: (again from the guy who towed his boat 6 hours to Shaver and hasn't wheeled there yet)  How would you rate the trail to the tower (easy,moderate difficult)? How far in miles and time is the tower from a paved road?  The reason I ask is it is likely you will receive more support from outside donations and the likelihood of it being staffed by volunteers on the weekends if there is easy (or somewhat easy) access to the tower.

If you hear anything from Kathy Ball, the thread should be renamed and placed on top as a sticky event.  I might just drive up to pitch in. 

I'd say easy, but I can't remember exactly, I do remember bypasses on many of the obstacles on the way up to the tower but I wouldn't try to take a 2wd work truck up there. Maybe someone who knows the trail better can chime in  , here's a link to the map of the trails up there: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=27400.0

I know i'd be more than willing to load up my truck and haul as much up there as I could

[Shoyrtt]

That would be great, i'll definately let you know if I hear anything back  , i've been looking for a club to join too 

I'd say easy, but I can't remember exactly, I do remember bypasses on many of the obstacles on the way up to the tower but I wouldn't try to take a 2wd work truck up there. Maybe someone who knows the trail better can chime in  , here's a link to the map of the trails up there: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=27400.0

I know i'd be more than willing to load up my truck and haul as much up there as I could

After following the link, it looks like your Fresno area trails sure are limited this year. Any thought on some input from the 4X4 Club of Fresno (who built and maintains the trails) on rehab of the tower. They might know the right people to go through with the Forrest Service to receive permission.  

[Talon84x4]

Good idea, didn't think of that, i'll send an e-mail their way 

[Weak-Link]

one- there are two ways to get to the tower = rockcreek rd & tamerack rd(sp). Two wheel drives can make it on the tamerack side. most stock 4wd's can make it up the rockcreek side

two- Bald mtn is open year round, some of the roads leading to bald are closed seasonly.

three-Fresno 4wd Club is not responsible for bald mtn

[Talon84x4]

Thanks for the info

I sent them an e-mail anyway to see if they knew who to contact about it.

[Aaron84x4]

If its a weekend cleanup, i'd be more than in. 

I'm currently in So. Cal, but its worth it.  Maybe someone has connections with lumberyards who are willing to donate (or reduce) cost??  
Didn't see any real problems with the frame (from what i remember last summer with Talon84x4) but if we had specs on the grade of steel (mild, medium, or high carbon content, etc.) it wouldn't be that bad to determine how much strength the tower has left and what it can support.  Yield strength at the lower temperatures will only be a problem if the steel is high-strength (lots of carbon), otherwise the temperatures it experiences shouldn't be a problem

[Weak-Link]

Well we found the Kids that did the damage, they've said they are going to try to fix what they have done.


what and when is still in the air.

[mudguts]

Well we found the Kids that did the damage, they've said they are going to try to fix what they have done.


what and when is still in the air.

I'd like to take'em over my knee and spank'em.

[alwayzbroken]

It obviously stands for College of Business.

[WhiteRhino]

Actually C.O.B. stands for Clovis Okie Boys
One of our members goes to Clovis High & knows 6 of the 7 who did the damage
They said they wanted to help ......... we will see where that goes
I was on the trail that day with BirdDog & Fred
The kids didn't appear to be from the dark side

[MiniSimp]

Well we found the Kids that did the damage, they've said they are going to try to fix what they have done.

Well, good for them if they follow through, they should be shaparoned and clean up more than just their graphiti. Trail clean up day sounds good.

[Yota Up]

Actually C.O.B. stands for Clovis Okie Boys
One of our members goes to Clovis High & knows 6 of the 7 who did the damage
They said they wanted to help ......... we will see where that goes
I was on the trail that day with BirdDog & Fred
The kids didn't appear to be from the dark side

Excellent news there.  This is a chance to turn some kids on the fence over to the good side, folks.  Let's not screw it up.  We've all had our fun as youngin's before we knew the true consequences of our actions.

If they fessed up, and are willing to help out - I think the bigger lesson learned here in life for them just may ensure them to be better people, rather than flush down the toilet.

It pleases me to hear that they may turn out to the be the type that don't deserve an ass-kickin', but rather some guidance.

In the long run, things will be better for them, and us, and everyone.

[jimbo74]

i would envolve law enforcement!

[Weak-Link]

Excellent news there.  This is a chance to turn some kids on the fence over to the good side, folks.  Let's not screw it up.  We've all had our fun as youngin's before we knew the true consequences of our actions.

If they fessed up, and are willing to help out - I think the bigger lesson learned here in life for them just may ensure them to be better people, rather than flush down the toilet.

It pleases me to hear that they may turn out to the be the type that don't deserve an ass-kickin', but rather some guidance.

In the long run, things will be better for them, and us, and everyone.

/\ very well said



law enforcement has been contacted, and fallowing through. 

[Talon84x4]

Good to hear, I don't think i've ever seen someone caught for something like that as fast as this one was 

I'm glad they fessed and are willing to help clean up, not really what I expected but better outcome. Things will get cleaned AND hopefully a lesson learned.

[Shoyrtt]

Started doing a little reasearch and found this
here's the link: http://www.firelookout.org/cr-centcalifornia06.htm

I'm going to try to contact Kathryn Ball and see if they would allow someone to clean it up that's not associated with the forst service, like some local wheelers

couldn't hurt 

Any updates? 

[Talon84x4]

Havn't gotten a response 

[CrawlerBrennan]

We had a great day of wheeling. But when we got to the top this is what we found. It was done today because it was not there yesterday. We found who we think did it & turned their info in to L.E.

Does anybody know what C.O.B stands for.

cob is Clovis oakie boys they are a bunch of dumb a$$ kids that go to my school the think they are cool in their pavement pounders the other letters are the initials i could tell you who they are if you need to know but i don't just want to say their names on line any ways these guys are fags       

[BigMike]

cob is Clovis oakie boys they are a bunch of dumb a$$ kids that go to my school the think they are cool in their pavement pounders the other letters are the initials i could tell you who they are if you need to know but i don't just want to say their names on line any ways these guys are fags       

You sound like you are part of their inner cultic circle.

[Caboose]

cob is Clovis oakie boys they are a bunch of dumb a$$ kids that go to my school the think they are cool in their pavement pounders the other letters are the initials i could tell you who they are if you need to know but i don't just want to say their names on line any ways these guys are fags       

well put.  hadn't seen this post.  i could of told you who that was if i red this earlier.  I believe they cleaned up the lookout cuz i went up there and it looked fine.  just a few beer bottles and cans laying around.

[jimbo74]

well put.  hadn't seen this post.  i could of told you who that was if i red this earlier.  I believe they cleaned up the lookout cuz i went up there and it looked fine.  just a few beer bottles and cans laying around.

i beleive earlier in the post, months ago when this happened, that the miscreants that did it confessed and cleaned it up

[CrawlerBrennan]

You sound like you are part of their inner cultic circle.

o yes you know it Camel eyes