Author Topic: Sad Day on Bald 5-6-07 (Read 8557 times)

BirdDog · « **on:** May 06, 2007, 09:01:53 PM »

We had a great day of wheeling. But when we got to the top this is what we found. It was done today because it was not there yesterday. We found who we think did it & turned their info in to L.E.

Does anybody know what C.O.B stands for.

Duffil · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2007, 09:18:22 PM »

mudguts · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2007, 09:22:04 PM »

It's been 10+ years since I've been to the lookout. That place looks trashed.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #3 on:** May 06, 2007, 10:58:55 PM »

BigMike · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2007, 12:12:32 AM »

Quote from: BirdDog on May 06, 2007, 09:01:53 PM

Does anybody know what C.O.B stands for.

Calling Out BirdDog?

BirdDog · « **Reply #5 on:** May 07, 2007, 07:01:17 AM »

Thats good Mike.

I'm wondering if it's a Band, or club. Or even the initials of a business.

Duffil · « **Reply #6 on:** May 07, 2007, 07:39:38 AM »

Well, there is Children Of Bodom, but unless a Swedish Death Metal band recently got into 4wheeling, it ain't them.

BigMike · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2007, 08:53:09 AM »

wow that's great.

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:34:19 PM »

Quote from: BirdDog on May 07, 2007, 07:01:17 AM

I'm wondering if it's a Band, or club. Or even the initials of a business.

its just graffiti. its just someones "name" i bet. i doubt its a business. and ya it could be a club (crew)

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #9 on:** May 07, 2007, 05:49:06 PM »

No help with COB.

Our local tower at Morton Peak (SoCal) looked like that a few years ago but has since been restored and can be rented out.

Maybe you guys could turn the negative into a project.

After the trouble up there last summer (not naming names) the 4X4 community could use some good publicity.

Talon84x4 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07, 2007, 05:57:36 PM »

I think it's a good idea, me an a buddy of mine were thinking of taking some ply board up there to put on the floor and cover up the holes so we could camp in it

. I don't know what the rangers would think, but it'd be nice to clean it up

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #11 on:** May 07, 2007, 06:19:27 PM »

Quote from: Talon84x4 on May 07, 2007, 05:57:36 PM

I think it's a good idea, me an a buddy of mine were thinking of taking some ply board up there to put on the floor and cover up the holes so we could camp in it . I don't know what the rangers would think, but it'd be nice to clean it up

Never hurts to ask, I'd bet they'd be all for it.

In order to obtain the rank of Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts of America, the kid has to initiate,aquire funds, prepare, document, and lead a service project. This could be a good one for a scout in the area if anyone knows one?

I know in my area scouts have done everything from building playgrounds for churches, to creating a "nature" trail around a lake, complete with signage and a couple of benches, to building picnic tables for schools. just a thought if anyone on here is involved with BSA, or knows of someone who is

Hottrod81 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07, 2007, 08:19:12 PM »

It looks like a some white trash writing since gang bangers tend to not like the mountains. COB probably means Crazy Old Bastards since the numbers 5150 are above it.

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #13 on:** May 08, 2007, 11:43:40 AM »

Quote from: Talon84x4 on May 07, 2007, 05:57:36 PM

I think it's a good idea, me an a buddy of mine were thinking of taking some ply board up there to put on the floor and cover up the holes so we could camp in it . I don't know what the rangers would think, but it'd be nice to clean it up

Quote from: BLACKDOG on May 07, 2007, 06:19:27 PM

Never hurts to ask, I'd bet they'd be all for it.

In order to obtain the rank of Eagle Scout in the Boy Scouts of America, the kid has to initiate,aquire funds, prepare, document, and lead a service project. This could be a good one for a scout in the area if anyone knows one? I know in my area scouts have done everything from building playgrounds for churches, to creating a "nature" trail around a lake, complete with signage and a couple of benches, to building picnic tables for schools. just a thought if anyone on here is involved with BSA, or knows of someone who is

Great ideas.

I came across this article that mentions Kathy Ball who is the director of the Central California and Nevada chapter of the Forest Fire Fighter Lookout Association. It appears that she assisted with the resoration of the tower at Buck Rock. You may want to contact her for further info and efforts to restore the lookout at Bald Mtn.

http://rgj.com/news/stories/html/2004/09/22/80936.php?sp1=rgj&sp2=Outdoors&sp3=Outdoors&sp5=RGJ.com&sp6=news&sp7=outdoors&jsmultitag=news.rgj.com/news/outdoors

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #14 on:** May 08, 2007, 11:49:08 AM »

Here is another link: http://www.buckrock.org/

Now on one of the sites there is this picture of a tower at Bald Mtn.

http://www.sequoialookouts.com/Sequoia_Lookout_Fire_Towers.html

I take there are several towers there.

Talon84x4 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 08, 2007, 12:27:39 PM »

Started doing a little reasearch and found this

Quote

SIERRA NATIONAL FOREST
1. Bald Mountain - Abandoned and vandalized. No plan for rehab
....

here's the link: http://www.firelookout.org/cr-centcalifornia06.htm

I'm going to try to contact Kathryn Ball and see if they would allow someone to clean it up that's not associated with the forst service, like some local wheelers

couldn't hurt

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #16 on:** May 08, 2007, 01:41:18 PM »

Quote from: Talon84x4 on May 08, 2007, 12:27:39 PM

Started doing a little reasearch and found this
here's the link: http://www.firelookout.org/cr-centcalifornia06.htm

I'm going to try to contact Kathryn Ball and see if they would allow someone to clean it up that's not associated with the forst service, like some local wheelers

couldn't hurt

Keep us updated!

Now just for clarification for people like me

we are talking about two different "Bald" mountains. From your link:

Quote

SEQUOIA NATIONAL FOREST
...
2. Bald Mt - Staffed 7 days with 2 GS employees. Kern River RD
...
SIERRA NATIONAL FOREST
1. Bald Mountain - Abandoned and vandalized. No plan for rehab

One is in the Sierra and one in Sequoia.

I was only aware of a Bald Mtn near Shaver Lake. 8)

BigMike · « **Reply #17 on:** May 08, 2007, 02:51:33 PM »

Quote from: BirdDog on May 06, 2007, 09:01:53 PM

Does anybody know what C.O.B stands for.

I still think it's Calling Out BirdDog

BirdDog · « **Reply #18 on:** May 08, 2007, 04:44:20 PM »

I'm your Huckleberry !

Yota Up · « **Reply #19 on:** May 08, 2007, 08:21:07 PM »

I'd like to help out rebuilding the thing. I'll drag all the tools up the mountain. I'll bring drinks and my wife will cook up some grub for everyone. I'll be watching for updates on this.

Please let us know when you hear anything.

Talon84x4 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:00:22 PM »

Will do

jimbo74 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:05:52 PM »

i wonder if it is still safe? i mean it looks liek its in decent condition, but you never know if it was subjected to fire or if the elements have taken a toll on the integrity of the wood....

Talon84x4 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:19:47 PM »

I'm sure it's taken it's toll on the wood, the floor has a couple holes in it, as well as the roof, but the main structure is steal. Including I beams running across the wood floor undernieth IIRC. Me and a few buddies slept up there one night

, camping was full and that's where we happened to stop for the day, made sure it was safe first ofcourse

jimbo74 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:33:46 PM »

it looks liek there is some fire damage to it, anyway to prove that? steel loses 50% of its strength at a very low temperatire

Talon84x4 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:40:45 PM »

I really can't say for sure

It seems to have all the wood, just weathered and some holes, along with missing the glass. So I wouldn't think it has been burned. The black on the structure could be from a fire next to it, there's a black fire "pit" type spot next to it last time I was up last summer

papa mike · « **Reply #25 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:32:27 AM »

Quote from: Yota Up on May 08, 2007, 08:21:07 PM

I'd like to help out rebuilding the thing. I'll drag all the tools up the mountain. I'll bring drinks and my wife will cook up some grub for everyone. I'll be watching for updates on this.

Please let us know when you hear anything.

im game to keep me posted

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #26 on:** May 09, 2007, 01:23:47 PM »

Quote from: Captain4x2 on May 08, 2007, 09:33:46 PM

it looks liek there is some fire damage to it, anyway to prove that? steel loses 50% of its strength at a very low temperatire

I haven't been to the tower itself, but from pics, IIRC, the tower is actually away from any vegatation, out on the granite.

Most watch towers are usually built away from the vegatation for exactly this reason (and for visibiltiy purposes)

Talon84x4 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 09, 2007, 01:44:53 PM »

Yeah, there isn't much around it, not nearly as much (if any) as other lookouts i've seen. Here's some pics from last summer, both taken from on the tower

here's the closest vegitation

And the view of shaver

BirdDog · « **Reply #28 on:** May 09, 2007, 04:38:36 PM »

If this is approved.

I know that there is quite a bit of interest in doing a Clean-Up the Tower day or weekend from one of the clubs I'm in called 4x4Him Christian Wheelers. Could turn out to be a neat event.

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #29 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:16:44 PM »

Question: (again from the guy who towed his boat 6 hours to Shaver and hasn't wheeled there yet)

How would you rate the trail to the tower (easy,moderate difficult)? How far in miles and time is the tower from a paved road?

The reason I ask is it is likely you will receive more support from outside donations and the likelihood of it being staffed by volunteers on the weekends if there is easy (or somewhat easy) access to the tower.

If you hear anything from Kathy Ball, the thread should be renamed and placed on top as a sticky event.

I might just drive up to pitch in.

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