Topic: Imported just like our Toyotas

[BigMike]

I am getting really tired of hearing this so I thought I would vent a bit.

Q. "Is part XYZ imported or made in the US?"
A. "It is imported just like our Toyotas!"

First off, if part XYZ was "imported just like our Toyotas" then that would mean that XYZ was conceived, manufactured, developed, and assembled in the Toyota assembly plant in JAPAN.

To me, saying that part XYZ is "imported just like our Toyotas" implies that Toyota vehicles are no better than Daewoo because they are/were both "imported".

Get real.

I would love to see our Springs made from Toyota Co. of Japan, "just like our Toyotas!", but I dawg-gone guarantee they will be much much more expensive than our USA made springs. Sheesh

[Hottrod81]

I would prefer that they be made in the USA because that is helping our economy here.

[BigMike [OP]]

I would prefer that they be made in the USA because that is helping our economy here.

Roger that

[MiniSimp]

All I prefer is that marlin sells them. That helps their prices stay low, whichs boosts their economy, which gives them more time for R&D.

[MR_DIY]

All I prefer is that marlin sells them. That helps their prices stay low, whichs boosts their economy, which gives them more time for R&D.

I'm with MiniSimp.  You guys should start "distributing" no whining stickers. 

[BigMike [OP]]

Mini

Actually, after we get rid of the last remaining Import Springs that we have right now, I am going to remove them from the website. If you notice, we have free ground shipping on Import springs and we STILL cannot move them. WTF. No one wants import springs. That sure tells us A LOT.

So we will only be offering the USA Springs soon.

[MiniSimp]

Bring a set to the con Mike, I'll take em off your hands for free!

[Willy Mammoth]

Even cheap skates want good parts huh  What is wrong with them? I mean they have the same guarantee don't they? And they are cheaper and did I mention FREE shipping?

[BigMike [OP]]

I mean they have the same guarantee don't they?

Actually, due to their hit-and-miss nature, we only offer a 3-month 1-time replacement warranty on all Import springs.

If your import springs S-bend or go flat within the first 3-months, then we will replace them for free. But if the replaced set also S-bends or goes flat yet within the same 3-month time period, then we will not warranty it.

Consistency. That is what the import springs have not been able to show to us the way the USA springs have. That is why we offer a 1-year full 100% warranty on all USA Springs we sell.

BigMike

[Duffil]

Actually, due to their hit-and-miss nature, we only offer a 3-month 1-time replacement warrentee on all Import springs.

If your import springs S-bend or go flat within the first 3-months, then we will replace them for free. But if the replaced set also S-bends or goes flat yet within the same 3-month time period, then we will not warrentee it.

Consistency. That is what the import springs have not been able to show to us the way the USA springs have. That is why we offer a 1-year full 100% warrentee on all USA Springs we sell.

BigMike

That right there, Mike, is why a lot of us shy away from "import" products.  Yes, I drive a Toyota, and it was made in Japan.  But I use Precision USA-made Ujoints instead of GMB japanese-made.  You know why?  The quality of the part.  For me, that's all it comes down to.  If a product is made in Bangladesh, but is stronger/better/faster/etc, and it's USA counterpart is cheap crap, guess which one I'm gonna go with.

[DTB]

I think most people assume that when one says "import", they are referring to products which are USUALLY sub-par quality when compared to an American one. Typically, quality standards are higher in the U.S. when compared to China, India, or even Japan.  This is not always the case though like Duffil stated. It depends on the product.

Would I buy a Japanese car? Yes. Would I buy and American car? No way

[Duffil]

That right there, Mike, is why a lot of us shy away from "import" products.  Yes, I drive a Toyota, and it was made in Japan.  But I use Precision USA-made Ujoints instead of GMB japanese-made.  You know why?  The quality of the part.  For me, that's all it comes down to.  If a product is made in Bangladesh, but is stronger/better/faster/etc, and it's USA counterpart is cheap crap, guess which one I'm gonna go with.

[BigMike [OP]]

No, no, no. I think my point has been overlooked.

When someone says "import" THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IMPORTED FROM JAPAN.

That's the whole thing!!

Here is a perfect example:

1) Someone says something bad about "Import Part XYZ"
2) Then someone snaps back and says "well your Toyota is imported so who cares!"

The thing is that your Toyota is imported from Toyota Co. of JAPAN but "Import Part XYZ" is not imported from Toyota Co. of JAPAN but rather from some other country with much lower quality standards than Japan!!

If "Import part XYZ" was imported from Japan then we wouldn't be complaining about it!!!!!
Like how we never complain about parts from Koyo Seiko, Nachi, Aisin Seiki, NSK, Denso, whatever.
It is a fact that these Japanese companies have much higher standards and attention to detail then most companies in China, Korea, India, Malaysia, Mexico, Antarctica, Pluto, The moon, yadda yadda yadda It's a fact.

[brainlessfool]

It is a fact that these Japanese companies have much higher standards and attention to detail then most companies in China, Korea, India, Malaysia, Mexico, Antarctica, Pluto, The moon, yadda yadda yadda It's a fact.

Now hold on a minit Mikey, I'll have you know that them aliens on the moon have very high standards too. 

[Rocksurfer]

Who really knows where your parts come from? Most american made cars and trucks parts are not american made and if the vehicle is made here at all is lucky indeed. just look at the vin on your car or truck what is the first digit? Is it a 1, if it is you are the lucky few to have your vehicle assembled in the US if it is a 2 you got Canadian a 3 is Mexico. J is made in Japan, K Korea, W Germany, etc, etc. Take a good look at a new Camry or Tacoma, they start with a 1, assembled in the US. Now the parts come from mostly Japan, Korea or China, it really doesn't matter where it is made anymore.

[Rocksurfer]

  Now for the rant, the one thing I have noticed throughout our history is to convert from manufacturing products for the general public to manufacturing products to support a war overnight and out of the same factory that the day before was making car parts yesterday and is making shell casing today. We were an amazing country back then, what are we going to do tomorrow when we realize we couldn't do what we did in the past because all of our plants are in other countries that won't let us make weapons. Used to be an American car was completely built here from scratch, today we build scratch.

[88runner]

But I use Precision USA-made Ujoints instead of GMB japanese-made.  You know why?  The quality of the part.

I'll bet you'll see more Precision USA-made Ujoints broken then stock OEM toyota u-joints

[Duffil]

I'll bet you'll see more Precision USA-made Ujoints broken then stock OEM toyota u-joints

Here I go feeding the trolls again...I've never broke one. I have never broken a stocker, either. But, I do not drive with the skinny and the clutch. (Well, only on the road )   Therefore, I have a 100% success ratio with both OEM and Precision. 

My point here was not that Precision are better than OE, I was simply drawing a comparison along the same lines as BigMike's original post.  Infact, the only thing that could be drawn from the statement you quoted, is that I think GMB U-Joints are weaker than the Precision equivalent, thus making your post irrelevant.

[MiniSimp]

thus making your post irrelevant.

Did you just say "thus" 

[Duffil]

  why, yes, Kyle, I did.

[MiniSimp]

Off topic: Duf, I'm coming up on Sunday. Stop by if you want.

[Rocksurfer]

I use mostly oem parts in my rigs, I don't have the nickname of Momentum Man for nothing, and I rarely break anything. I could probably count one one hand the parts I've broken that are directly related to wheeling my rigs a little harder than I should have.

Did you just say "thus" 

 

[88runner]

Here I go feeding the trolls again...I've never broke one. I have never broken a stocker, either. But, I do not drive with the skinny and the clutch. (Well, only on the road )   Therefore, I have a 100% success ratio with both OEM and Precision. 

My point here was not that Precision are better than OE, I was simply drawing a comparison along the same lines as BigMike's original post.  Infact, the only thing that could be drawn from the statement you quoted, is that I think GMB U-Joints are weaker than the Precision equivalent, thus making your post irrelevant.

I'm just tired of people who'll say buy american, it's bether then anything imported ...
If you do it to support you local economy I've got nothing against that.
Most of the american made stuff is made of part comming from other places, buy what is best no reguard of where it's made,
I'd buy spring made in bangladesh if they showed bether result then spring made in USA.

It's just like people who say car's made in germany are the best, I've had Audi's, a VW jetta 1999 TDI and  a New passat, they're peice of ...

[Rocksurfer]

I'm just tired of people who'll say buy american, it's bether then anything imported ...
If you do it to support you local economy I've got nothing against that.
Most of the american made stuff is made of part comming from other places, buy what is best no reguard of where it's made,
I'd buy spring made in bangladesh if they showed bether result then spring made in USA.

It's just like people who say car's made in germany are the best, I've had Audi's, a VW jetta 1999 TDI and  a New passat, they're peice of ...

I've done extensive research on the best made products, maybe that's why I'm here, two of the best products around are on prominant display here Toyota's and Marlin Crawlers.

[Duffil]

I'm just tired of people who'll say buy american, it's bether then anything imported ...
If you do it to support you local economy I've got nothing against that.
Most of the american made stuff is made of part comming from other places, buy what is best no reguard of where it's made,
I'd buy spring made in bangladesh if they showed bether result then spring made in USA.

It's just like people who say car's made in germany are the best, I've had Audi's, a VW jetta 1999 TDI and  a New passat, they're peice of ...

I've tried being polite and quiet. Obviously you don't understand that approach.  You are simply restating what I said earlier, or maybe you just can't comprehend what I said.  I consider the matter closed and will try not to get any ruder than this.

[Hottrod81]

I'm just tired of people who'll say buy american, it's bether then anything imported ...
If you do it to support you local economy I've got nothing against that.
Most of the american made stuff is made of part comming from other places, buy what is best no reguard of where it's made,
I'd buy spring made in bangladesh if they showed bether result then spring made in USA.

It's just like people who say car's made in germany are the best, I've had Audi's, a VW jetta 1999 TDI and  a New passat, they're peice of ...

Do you have a point here.  Many people just like the MADE IN USA label even if the product might be a bit inferior.  I know I would just because I am patriotic.  Just like I will support a small local business over a corporate one.

[88runner]

I've tried being polite and quiet. Obviously you don't understand that approach.

Obviously you don't understand that I'm not talking about what you said specifically