Topic: frame numbers

[rlwjaw]

can any one tell me what the numbers on the passenger front of the toyota frame mean?

[Rocksurfer]

If you are refering to the numbers stamped on the raised portion of the frame in the wheel well that would be your V.I.N. # and unless somebody swapped the cab or frame they should match.

[rlwjaw [OP]]

That is what I thought but the vin # is suposed to be 17 letters and numbers and I only find 10
Thanks

[jimbo74]

it isnt the whole 17 digit vin#

but it is the actual #s after all the letters of the vin, the last numbers should match your vin, mine do.....

[rlwjaw [OP]]

can you tell the year by the numbers on the frame?

[Rocksurfer]

As long as it matches the last series of numbers it's the same, the "JT4" or "JT5" are U.S. codes of origin and model which don't get put on the frame at the factory, they only put them on the public (visible) VIN plates.

[rlwjaw [OP]]

The body is gone and all i have is the frame

[rlwjaw [OP]]

What I do know about this truck is that it had round headlights and it was or is 2 wheel drive, long bead, manual trans, engine is gone also. It has been on my neighbors farm for as long as I can rember, they used to haul irigation pipe with it.

[Rocksurfer]

   * 1st character- Identifies the country in which the vehicle was manufactured.
      For example: U.S.A.(1or4), Canada(2), Mexico(3), Japan(J), Korea(K), England(S), Germany(W), Italy(Z)
    * 2nd character- Identifies the manufacturer. For example; Audi(A),
      BMW(B), Buick(4), Cadillac(6), Chevrolet(1), Chrysler(C), Dodge(B),
      Ford(F), GM Canada(7), General Motors(G), Honda(H), Jaquar(A), Lincoln(L), Mercedes Benz(D), Mercury(M), Nissan(N), Oldsmobile(3), Pontiac(2or5), Plymouth(P), Saturn(8), Toyota(T), VW(V), Volvo(V).
    * 3rd character- Identifies vehicle type or manufacturing division.
    * 4th to 8th characters- Identifies vehicle features such as body style, engine type, model, series, etc.
    * 9th character- Identifies VIN accuracy as check digit.
    * 10th character- Identifies the model year. For example: 1988(J), 1989(K), 1990(L), 1991(M), 1992(N), 1993(P), 1994(R), 1995(S), 1996(T),
      1997(V), 1998(W), 1999(X), 2000(Y)------2001(1), 2002(2), 2003(3)
    * 11th character- Identifies the assembly plant for the vehicle.
    * 12th to 17th characters- Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production
as it rolled of the manufacturers assembly line.

[Rocksurfer]

I have a much better breakdown of the series codes at work and what they stand for and can check it for you tomorrow.

[Rocksurfer]

If all you have is the frame read it backwards to determine what it is, in other words start from the 17th digit and work back.

[jimbo74]

my truck just has the sequential # listed on the hump in the wheelwell

[Rocksurfer]

my truck just has the sequential # listed on the hump in the wheelwell

If you know the make and model you can rebuild the # with just those.

[rlwjaw [OP]]

All I want to know is the year. on the frame is RN42 ______

[jimbo74]

rn42 is a model....

you wont figure out the year by that alone..... you need to have more info on it

rn42, what is that? my truck is an rn50 and thats as low and standard as they used to come....

[rlwjaw [OP]]

I am sorry but this is RN42 then a space and six digits.

[Rocksurfer]

Starting with the 17th digit count backwards 8 digits, it should be a letter. That is the year, you will need to translate that letter to the yr. of manufacture.

[rlwjaw [OP]]

I dont know how to say it any more clear there are only TEN numbers and letters not 17, 11 if you count the space after RN42.

[Rocksurfer]

I dont know how to say it any more clear there are only TEN numbers and letters not 17, 11 if you count the space after RN42.

Hmm, let me try again, counting from the last digit not the 1st. Count 8 digits backwards from the 11th digit since you don't have the complete vin, this way it dosen't matter how many there are missing from the beginning. There should be a letter, that letter will tell you the year of that frame.

[79coyotefrg]

the only vin on my truck anywhere or any paperwork including the title  is RN37-00####

and thats it

[79coyotefrg]

RN42   sounds like a 84

[79coyotefrg]

but thats just a guestament

[Rocksurfer]

but thats just a guestament

Your junk is too old for a 17 digit vin 

[jimbo74]

you will not find the entire vin # on the frame in that location, it is not there.... all it says is the model, and its sequential #

from that info, you are screwed, and cannot find the year of the vehicle unless there is someway to trace back the medel #

the model # of 42 sounds odd, because my truck is a std cab, short bed, 1985 4x2 and is an rn50


rs, his isnt too old for a 17 digit #, mine has one, and exactly what he has on the frame, but he is missing the first half, they only check the frame to match the body, they dont want body swapped vehicles on the road, and since this, they dont list the first half of the vin, now he cant fake it......

[jimbo74]

here is mine, you can tell the model and sequential number, not the vin.... you need the cab to determine the rest of it....

if you dotn have it, then your screwed, and its basically illegal for you to do anything with, well if you wnat it street worthy..... now when they checked my truck for CA inspection after it was totalled, the gave me a bad mark because the underhood emission sticker was basically rubbed off, but they saw the vin on the door and the dash, and on the firewall plate and were happy with that.... they never checked my framerail..... but then again, that part was covered in goo, i jsut cleaned it a couple minutes ago to take that picture

[79coyotefrg]

jim,  my door plate, firewall plate,  right fender flate,  right frame rail and TITLE   all have the same RN37-00####

[Rocksurfer]

you will not find the entire vin # on the frame in that location, it is not there.... all it says is the model, and its sequential #

from that info, you are screwed, and cannot find the year of the vehicle unless there is someway to trace back the medel #

the model # of 42 sounds odd, because my truck is a std cab, short bed, 1985 4x2 and is an rn50


rs, his isnt too old for a 17 digit #, mine has one, and exactly what he has on the frame, but he is missing the first half, they only check the frame to match the body, they dont want body swapped vehicles on the road, and since this, they dont list the first half of the vin, now he cant fake it......

Well I was refering to Glen's about the 17 digits, he won't have them it is to old, newer model will have it they will start with J (Japan)  T (Toyota) and either 2, 4, 5 then comes RN now comes the series numbers which will include how it is powered, plant it was manufactured at and also the yr. and after that comes the actual serial # of the vehicle.  If you were to count from the last digit to the 8th backwards it will tell you the yr. of the vehicle or in this case the yr. of the frame. It will be a letter not a number, numbers started in 2000.  My truck also does not have a 17 digit vin, mine starts at the RN which is a complete Toyota vin from that era.  If this vin # does not have a letter noting the year that means it is an early frame produced before the 17 digit vin was federally mandated.

[79coyotefrg]

 




   didnt i just tell him that 

[jimbo74]

 




   didnt i just tell him that 

thats fine, im just telling this guy who is fighting you saying he doenst have the rest of it, that he doenst have the rest of it.....

i know what my vin # is

[79coyotefrg]

thats fine, im just telling this guy who is fighting you saying he doenst have the rest of it, that he doenst have the rest of it.....

i know what my vin # is

doin a fine job too jim,  i was just  trying to tell you  my truck is OLD 

 but his is RN42  so  its obviously  somewhere between  yours and mine and rocksurfers rig