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The question is should I stretch the Willy?

No, it looks stupid that long.
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Yes, but not that long.
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Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:04:26 PM »
Ok here are the projected pictures for the stretching project.

I want to know what everybody thinks before I start.

The first pic is before at 87" wheel base and the next picture is what it should look like after adding 13".

This will make the wheel base 100".

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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #1 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:05:33 PM »
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #2 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:08:10 PM »
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:12:38 PM »
I think youd be alot happier with the longer w/b.Your seats probably would be too.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #4 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:16:07 PM »
I say go for it.  At 100" you'll be damn close to a yota, too.

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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #5 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:16:21 PM »
Although I would rather just be able to keep playing and not have to work on it again, I think my seat cover would be much happier fer'sher. :rofl2: I think we will feel a lot more comfortable going to Tellico with a longer wheelbase.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #6 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:25:12 PM »
I like the way it looks now, but a little longer wheel base would be cool. 8)
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #7 on: Oct 23, 2005, 01:29:32 PM »
:clap2: That would be sooo cooolll!!! :yesnod:
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #8 on: Oct 23, 2005, 02:54:13 PM »
Unless you need the interior room, I'd say stretch the wheelbase but not the body. You'll get the longer wheelbase, you'll have better approach and departure angles, and you won't have to re-paint the body.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #9 on: Oct 23, 2005, 03:04:34 PM »
Unless you need the interior room, I'd say stretch the wheelbase but not the body. You'll get the longer wheelbase, you'll have better approach and departure angles, and you won't have to re-paint the body.

I'm lost as to what you are saying? I would like the extra storage space in front of the seats, larger fuel tank and better stability on steep climbs. Oyea, dual T cases.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #10 on: Oct 23, 2005, 03:36:03 PM »
My wife would like me to stretch my willy, but I have to agree with Fred on this one.
Unless you need the interior room, I'd say stretch the wheelbase but not the body. You'll get the longer wheelbase, you'll have better approach and departure angles, and you won't have to re-paint the body.
I think the only you would be able to do that would be a rear 4-link set up.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #11 on: Oct 23, 2005, 05:34:12 PM »
By the looks of it, if you moved the rear axle back so the rear hanger was @ the very back of the frame, it looks like you would pick up 4-6" of WB. @ the front, if your front hanger was all the way forward, it looks like you would gain about the same. 10-12" , better approach/departure, no body work. :thumbs:
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #12 on: Oct 23, 2005, 05:44:04 PM »
1st off I love stretched jeeps, zuks and Croozers! But I like it when the front axle is moved foward, not obnoxiusly just a few inches. I like the rear axle moved back when the fender is cut behind it. The only thing I do not like on a stretched rig is the space between the rear wheel and the entry way. If the stretch is done at the entry way than I think it looks sweet. I know your looking for stability which you will gain reguardless of which route you take but storage space is where you need to be creating as well. Judging your past work, it's a pretty good bet that no matter what you decide the outcome will be bad @$$ and the envy of many.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #13 on: Oct 23, 2005, 06:20:58 PM »
By the looks of it, if you moved the rear axle back so the rear hanger was @ the very back of the frame, it looks like you would pick up 4-6" of WB. @ the front, if your front hanger was all the way forward, it looks like you would gain about the same. 10-12" , better approach/departure, no body work. :thumbs:
:headscratch: Its seems to me if you move the axles and don't stretch the body the wheels won't line up in the wheel wells, that definately won't look right at all.

Some body work is NBD. The color actually matches a Krylon yellow so if we don't want to do a full fledged paint job we could make do by just spray bombing it.

It will be stretched at the bed just behind the seats which will allow the gas tank to be moved back and storage space created under the seat for tools and such. That will put weight lower and forward of the rear axle.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #14 on: Oct 23, 2005, 07:52:38 PM »
Doesnt every man want a longer willy?  :dunno:





Stretch it out, double the cases and have fun.  Myself Id go at least 100 if not longer but Im dumb like that.  Who else takes a 127 1/2" wb across pucker ridge?  :greengrin:
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #15 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:14:32 PM »
That's still 3" shorter than an unlimited. Can you beleive it started out as 81"  :smoke:
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #16 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:18:37 PM »
A short bed standard cab yota is 103" as well.  I think nissan king cabs are about 120".
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #17 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:31:52 PM »
A short bed standard cab yota is 103" as well. I think nissan king cabs are about 120".

Yea, then add 12" for a long bed.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #18 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:50:12 PM »
I'm running 106" and it's comfy.
Have you thought about a 4 link? Or are you just going to stick with springs?

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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #19 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:53:37 PM »
I want to keep it simple if that is possible. I don't want to mess with the suspension.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #20 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:53:43 PM »
I would say for the look don't stretch it but for practicality do stretch it.  It is all your choice from there but definitly if you are gonna stretch it do it in the rear fenderwell or the entrance area where it is flat and straight

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« Reply #21 on: Oct 23, 2005, 08:59:10 PM »
Id say just stretch it and dont stretch the body. put the front forward a bit and then cut the rear like Infernals jeep and just kick the rear axle back. I think it looks cool like that too.  Even your pic of how you wanted it stretched looks good.... You really do need a longer willy....
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #22 on: Oct 23, 2005, 10:44:35 PM »
I might be a little biased, the longer the Willy the better. Go for it a lwb Willys.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #23 on: Oct 23, 2005, 10:49:45 PM »
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #24 on: Oct 25, 2005, 06:25:38 AM »
I would say for the look don't stretch it but for practicality do stretch it. It is all your choice from there but definitly if you are gonna stretch it do it in the rear fenderwell or the entrance area where it is flat and straight

I totally agree on the looks thing. I love the original look of it, but for what we are going to do with it, for practicality, room and stability the stretch will do us good.

I don't think it will look that bad to stretch it at that panel behind the entrance.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #25 on: Oct 25, 2005, 11:20:55 AM »
My longbed yota was 110 it was good, when I 3 linked it we made it 116 the stability made a huge difference, but now I have trouble makig tight turns on obstacles, and if I climb A really wicked ledge It has a tendancy to high center on the frame, though not enough to get you stuck.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #26 on: Oct 26, 2005, 12:32:19 PM »
I like the stretched Idea but if you just stretch just the wheelbase and not the body I'd think it would look :stopit:  because the rear fenderwells would look goofy but it's you rig and who cares what I think :dunno:
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #27 on: Oct 26, 2005, 12:45:36 PM »
My longbed yota was 110 it was good, when I 3 linked it we made it 116 the stability made a huge difference, but now I have trouble makig tight turns on obstacles, and if I climb A really wicked ledge It has a tendancy to high center on the frame, though not enough to get you stuck.

That would be the only trade off, you may high-center more, the one thing to remember though is like what just happened to me I did a trail that has a huge boulder on the left of a tight right-hander used to just clear it in my 4Runner and standard cab...... thinking that I'd clear by the usual couple inches kept going smacked my bumper and bent it.
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #28 on: Oct 26, 2005, 03:07:50 PM »
if you just stretch just the wheelbase and not the body I'd think it would look :stopit:  because the rear fenderwells would look goofy
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Re: Would You Like A Longer Willy?
« Reply #29 on: Oct 26, 2005, 06:01:04 PM »
   :slap:  ,don't you know how to use a Sawzall ?...  :shake: 


Yup, I do, but those tires you have there will fit in my wheel wells without hacking up the body.


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