Mikes Motor Build-up

Started by Mike D, August 24, 2005, 10:20:43 PM

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Quote from: Toy4therock on September 18, 2005, 12:23:26 PM
:hammerhead: Hello Big Mike, Im real courious as to your comment about your 87 runner with the 4" lift and the 33" TSLS and the locker sucking major balls as it likes to break everything??

What? That must have been someone else :hammerhead:
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got to see it in person this weekend, sure was a nice swap!
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Quote from: Toy4therock on September 18, 2005, 01:36:58 PM
:bull crap: As to the comment about Mikes engine on steroids and better off with a toyota V6! Hogwash! You are not well known in the toyota engine world my friend! As for starters, Mikes engine is rather a mellow buildup as if it was not it wouldnt be any good for what he plans to use it for.Whats more is the 22RE can be built to flat blow away anything V6 toyota much less most make.In the pure fact there is so much out there to choose from in a performance stand point.And which there simply is not for the V6.Headers possably afew cams and afew others period.Where as the four banger for your better banged buck.Can be built extremely strong.In that of stronger rods and with a varirity of crankshafts from which to choose.Pistons almost in the dozon.As well the camshaft in double that.And now for the kill! With the SDS EM-4F digital ijection and ignition system with all adjustable parameters throughout.And only a map sensor change and a compression ratio of like 7-5-1. Garret ceramic bearing turbo in low boost and the rest of the engine basicly bone stock! And still running pump fuel ! Will put out an easy 200 hp as SDS has pulled out up to 300 hp so far on pump fuel and they almost always when testing there systems for any public knowledge.Use stock engines and altar the turbos and fuels as one test which wasnt a toyota but none the less an equal only lesser than a 22RE in cc or cubic inch.On there last pull working there way up in boost and fuels.Ending with pure methenal, pulled like 640 hp out of a small squirrel cage! Obviously not while under a load and they said dont anyone else attemp this as its insanitys attemp at what could be achived only.Whats more is that Id take a bone stock 22RE over a V6 of any make for just crawling any day of the year! Due to they put out a great amount of lowend torgue along in that there lighter.And even as Im no  more than a crawler in diapers.Ive done plenty of wheeling throughout my life and all over this state and alot up in southwestern colorado! Only I rented jeeps every time for the first three years.And if I ever had my choice.It was always the stright six with the five speed over anything else.And back then there was no injection like today.And we wheeled up to 12,250 feet without any known difference at all.You caouldnt say as much for the V8 with that aweful three speed! In fact Id taken one of the jeeps through what Id not ever dare do again umless in a swapp buggy! Across an alpine swapp! That due to time and real rough slow going along in more of that same ol.I opted for real adventure! Like right out of some adventure movie! Complete in black merky water with only a log end sticking out here and there heading across.Spelling nothing good to anyone with better sense than balls of steel attached to a lead foot and all in low range and soon heading for blue sky!As Id told my wife of the time! To buckle up good and hang on tight the shut up part came as a natural no damned doubt!As we literly LUANCHED OFF! and into that black and now flying up and everywhere as I could hardly see even through the windsheild and hell for the other side in all white knuckles with a heart rate to equal the engines RPMS!And every time.We hit a spot where the logs had been up heviled from anothers fast foot.We would only first feel as if it was all and only straight up and like four feet up no less! That jeep hopped like perters meter heading for love! That was on that farther than looked when still on that safer other.But then we had all of a sudden some how made it? Both dripping in black swapp water and starting to laugh!Our things were everywhere thrown into all mess.My sunglasses were sunwhere or I did hope and did find thank god! As Id just bought them in telluride the day before.So knowing her as well as I did! I asked her to promise me she not tell the nice man that let us take his best cream puff out and for free that day! As the day before our jeep had broken the shifter keeper cup above the ball at the top of the trans.No big deal really as long as you kept constsnt downward pressure on it or as we found out youd play hell getting out of like reverse when it first broke!! And so I went to telluride and phoned him and he was shocked? As he thought and said wait a minute you were still able to figure it out and then drove to tell me? YES oh my god! Can you make it back here ok? Ya sure why? Because Im alone and have to close down and loose out on all gas sales and jeep rentals if I do.Dont worrie see ya in afew! and so that was his way of thnaking us! And my wifes idea was in telling him I then drove through black oak arkansas! I seen god at the other side!Only then it all went red about the time I heard my worst fears lips moving those words! Only he smiled and said your abit different than most I have renting my jeeps.OH swallowing hard.He said ya you do pretty damned well for someone whos not even a weekend warrior no doubt! As not to long ago a big F-250 which youd thought had enough horse power and long wheelbase and god knows what else maybe?He got stuck just over the halfway mark and sunk up to his headlights in that black hole!It took two more as big as him and help by winches and then to his and couldnt get him out.Untill then they told him to fire it up and so did the othertwo and them in revervse all at the same time stand on it and go for freedom or broke? Only it barley worked at first as it started slow and in what those standing but off to the sides! Said, sounded like an aweful sucktion as that big ol beast come crawling out of all black deep nasty hell! And god only knows if you would had some how hit the same hole? Where did yoy think my jeeep wasss at last time you seen or felt it! OH MY GOD!Yes so we dont try what we all know is like flirting with certain to worse in all disaster! BUt dont feel badly as you faired really well indeed! But I cant afford to keep you in rewards for the job well done.I said thats fine as we have to leave in the am as it is.But thank you and for the good times no doubt! :crossed:  :beer:

Seriously, we aren't reading the stuff you post.  I'm not trying to be a jerk but I can't read that much stuff in one paragraph.  Just an FYI.
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We? speak for yourself...I think hes making the most sense out of anyone.  :clap2:

79coyotefrg

Quote from: Mike D on August 24, 2005, 10:27:04 PM
For the extra torque I got the 261 Crawler RV cam
Mike D  this will be the only thing that keeps you from your HP expectations.   you wont get the engine to its full potential using this mild of a cam,  look into a stage 2 or 3 LCengineering racing cam





oh and for those here that think 180 hp from a 22  are impractical    bring your :pokinit: to arkansas   and bring money
i broke the speedo cable in my truck twice with my old motor  and it was only 92mm
my new one is 93.5,   come on kiddies  :haha:
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Skinny_Pedal

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on September 27, 2005, 04:42:55 PM
Mike D  this will be the only thing that keeps you from your HP expectations.   you wont get the engine to its full potential using this mild of a cam,  look into a stage 2 or 3 LCengineering racing cam





oh and for those here that think 180 hp from a 22  are impractical    bring your :pokinit: to arkansas   and bring money
i broke the speedo cable in my truck twice with my old motor  and it was only 92mm
my new one is 93.5,   come on kiddies  :haha:


when i get my pulley kit, synchronized injectors, stage 3 race cam, and adjustable cam gear.....its awn BIOTCH! :gap:  i come on bye on my way back from school in 9 months....its a race
Im an OG

WHITE_TRASH

After you girl thingies are done blowing cash on a "performance" turd Ill toss a 4.3 into my junk for 1k and you can all eat my ass with a spoon.  :yumyum:
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

Skinny_Pedal

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on September 27, 2005, 08:47:21 PM
After you girl thingies are done blowing cash on a "performance" turd Ill toss a 4.3 into my junk for 1k and you can all eat my ass with a spoon.  :yumyum:

thats all i got into my motor. and 1k in a 4.3 swap, you must have the hookup because crash and i talked about this. besides a performace turd is funner, you just havent had it yet to know
Im an OG

toybuilt

I'm working on a 4.3 swap for my 83 toy. All I'm doing to it is some hooker headers and exhaust systom on it. I was told buy my bud who I got it from that it put out 183hp at the rear wheels of the blazer with 190k on it.
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WHITE_TRASH

And Ill never have it to try and understand.  I may toss a cam into my engine this winter the thats about the extent of the performance Ill ever try to get out of it.  The R series never have been, never will be a high performance engine.  Toyota used 4age's, 5mge's, and 7mge/te's when they wanted performance.  The R series is a workhorse.  

And of course I can do a 4.3 swap for under 1k thats not that hard to do. :)
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Quote from: toybuilt on September 27, 2005, 09:19:54 PM
I'm working on a 4.3 swap for my 83 toy. All I'm doing to it is some hooker headers and exhaust systom on it. I was told buy my bud who I got it from that it put out 183hp at the rear wheels of the blazer with 190k on it.
this is true my engine swapin freind, lite those 40s up bro :burnout:  :driving:

crawlerdan

you should be close to 200hp with those mods on it

Mike D

Holy cow! :o  that was alot to read. So heres some updates

One of the bearings was bad that I got so i got new ones with moly rings that i forgot to order.  :hammerhead:

New stuff:
arp head studs
new exhaust studs
arp flywheel bolts
Entire bottom end balanced
sand blasted intake
Black anodized intake and valve cover
green block :eyebrow:
Keith black hyperutectic pistons
test pipe  :clap2: No more cat :bananabeer: :banana: :bananaguitar: :bananasplit: :bananajumprope: :bananapc: cool smilys
I now am contemplating on wether or not to buy the dual timing chain conversion kit
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

toybuilt

PICTURES, need pictures of your new stuff.
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Okay so i sent the inatke and stuff in to get anodized and they can not anodize those parts cause there are steel parts that dont come out and the acid they use will disingerate the steel :rivers:

Heres some pics of the green block:
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

all nice and sandblasted
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

I got the crank, rods, pistons, flywheel, pressure plate and the harmonic balancer balanced
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

To The Floor

that is a sweet ass motor, don't get me wrong. but when you talk about getting high horsepower, im just like why???  but it is very nice knowing everything you have is 100% clean and brand new.  it'll perform, and im sure its fun to build it.  but dude, i have to give you mad props for doin this, i am the same age as you and havent attempted anything this in depth.  keep on chuggin, you got my respect.
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79coyotefrg

looking good Mike,   you did get a decent cam didnt you,  not that enginblder RV crap :nonono:
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Mike D

Quote from: To The Floor on October 04, 2005, 07:21:43 PM
that is a sweet ass motor, don't get me wrong. but when you talk about getting high horsepower, im just like why???  but it is very nice knowing everything you have is 100% clean and brand new.  it'll perform, and im sure its fun to build it.  but dude, i have to give you mad props for doin this, i am the same age as you and havent attempted anything this in depth.  keep on chuggin, you got my respect.

Thanks dude :thumbs:  but my main purpose of doing this all was the relability factor and it will haul balls
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on October 04, 2005, 07:29:22 PM
looking good Mike,   you did get a decent cam didnt you,  not that enginblder RV crap :nonono:


i think you are going to slap me but i dont think i will for a while unless you think it is completly nessesary to do now. since you are the motor man around here its all riding on you wether i buy it or not :dunno:
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

Mike D

i was alos wondering if anybody here was running a tb spacer cause ther is a new guy who offers them for 75 bucks shipped and he claims they add 8hp and 2-3mpg :dunno:
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much