Author Topic: 302ci Ford in a Toyota (Read 7263 times)

FATB0Y · « **on:** May 25, 2005, 06:53:06 PM »

Who has done this and how much a pain in the Azz was it and how much $$ in adapters and so forth I alreadt have the engine.

oddball · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2005, 07:49:31 PM »

were the hell have you been I havnt seen you on here for a couple of weeks, from what Ive seen its at least 1k in parts if you use the stock toy tranny....NWOR says their kit doesnt require welding or cutting

kyle_22r · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2005, 08:00:41 PM »

i wouldn't use a stock tranny behind a 302 -- and as a general rule, if you have to ask how much an engine swap is gonna cost you probably don't have any business doing it.

if i were to run a 302, i might look for an NV3550 out of a newer jeep, and adapt it to the 302(probably cheap, AA sells a bellhousing) and the toy t-case), it can take over 300lbs of torque reliably. there's always the tried and true option of a NP435 or T18 4 speed as well, but you lose overdrive and you most likely have to cut out your heater box(tranny shifter comes out way forward of stock).

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2005, 08:03:37 PM »

r151f will handle that 302 nicely

kyle_22r · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2005, 10:18:58 PM »

...if an adapter existed. right now the only adapters(aside from some 1 off from a machine shop) out there for a ford bellhousing are for the G and W series...

FATB0Y · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2005, 10:43:36 PM »

Quote from: oddball on May 25, 2005, 07:49:31 PM

were the hell have you been I havnt seen you on here for a couple of weeks

Been workin' on my Bike

I have about twice the HP&Tq as I did

Come an' get ya some

lilbuddy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2005, 10:45:43 PM »

You going to 302 your pickup I take it?

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2005, 10:48:17 PM »

Ask Brandon, he did it in his 1st gen. I think he has a buildup on his site as well

www.rcrc4x4.com/mambo

FATB0Y · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2005, 10:53:28 PM »

Quote from: lilbuddy on May 25, 2005, 10:45:43 PM

You going to 302 your pickup I take it?

I'm thinking about it but not sure yet. Oh BTW $$$ is not the issue I just don't want to have to do a lot of hacking and welding on it.

ntsqd · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2005, 09:23:00 AM »

From memory of a long ago post on ORC's ML:

Exhaust is a bit of an issue, most headers point at the frame or hit it, AA's don't count as headers - those are tubular manifolds

Bellhousing doesn't clear a non BL'd firewall (Yotas have an exceptionally compact b/h design)

Really wants the Exploder front dress for radiator clearence

Scott E @ Rockstomper did it a long time ago using an NV4500

DAWGTOY · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2005, 10:03:37 AM »

just slap that v twin into it. sounds like you've got plenty of hp.
then you'll have the best of both worlds.

didd'nt i see you a cherokee a couple weeks ago?
seen a red chevy with a fatboy tag on front pulling a black
trailer with fatboy on it too. course theres thousands of rigs just
like that.

Benny · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2005, 08:31:05 PM »

Quote from: kyle_22r on May 25, 2005, 10:18:58 PM

...if an adapter existed. right now the only adapters(aside from some 1 off from a machine shop) out there for a ford bellhousing are for the G and W series...

Dellow in Australia has the bellhousing, but they are next to impossible to get ahold of. It would be nice if someone with some extra bucks laying around would buy a lot (10 or so) from them and dispurse them in the US. Marlin? How 'bout it?

kneedownnate · « **Reply #12 on:** Jun 01, 2005, 10:41:32 PM »

Hey Fatbody, if you do decide to do a buildup make sure you start a thread, and be as detailed as possible. I'm sure there are a lot more of us out there that dream of doing this too, but the obvious cost and hassle keep us at bay. And truly, just because you ask doesn't mean you don't have any business doing it, why should inquisition be a sign of shallow pockets or a lack of ingenuity? Everyone on this board has the potential to do big projects, it's more a matter of whether or not they can realize their potential. No need to be cuttin on the nice guys here...........

STRAPON · « **Reply #13 on:** Jun 03, 2005, 06:33:46 AM »

I've got a 5.0 HO in my '85. Total cost was around $2,500.00 including $700.00 to rebuild the AOD. The adapter from the AOD to the TC was around $540.00 from Partsmikepart. It took about a month from start to finish. I kept the SS manifolds and yes you have to modify the passenger side to miss the frame. I use a 3 row Toyota radiator, tranny cooler and a 2000cfm pusher fan to cool it. No room for a mech. fan. I went with the auto because it's more dependable and the overdrive is great. I get 18mpg at 70mph and the truck ways about 4klbs. The engine came out of a '91 Thunderbird. It has 140k on it and runs perfect. I've put 10kmiles on it so far without a single problem. In my opinion it's the only way to go, and go it does. $Beer Chug\'n$

yotapride · « **Reply #14 on:** Jun 03, 2005, 07:24:39 PM »

i'm doing the swap myself and going more toward how brandon did his. i didn't like the idea behind the adapter for a stock trans because i just knew i could get a used t5 and get the shafts made at a less or equal price as the adpater kit and be stronger. but its however you want to go about doing it.

kyle_22r · « **Reply #15 on:** Jun 04, 2005, 06:46:46 PM »

a W56 is stronger than a T5...

decyfer · « **Reply #16 on:** Jun 08, 2005, 09:02:18 AM »

i jsut picked up a runner with a 5.0. i have a 4 speed tranny out of a older f-250. with the 4 to 1 t-case and the granny gear i would say it compares to a dual case setup. when you can put it in 4low and first, stand on the breaks and not stall. thats pretty sick. so i am backing the 4 speed. i can still drive 80+ on the highway.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #17 on:** Jun 08, 2005, 11:55:47 AM »

Just in case FordFreakChick reads this thread...and I was born a Chevy man (I actually think that all the domestics are about equal) I would have to propose another most cost effective option.

If your current goal is a Toyota Truck with a Ford 302 engine, you should do the following:
(1) Remove stock engine and sell
(2) Place truck on blocks in back yard
(3) Accept that it won't ever run right again

This plan will save you the trouble of having to fix the truck every time you turn the key

Please keep in mind that this is just a joke, but it was the first thing that I thought of when I read the thread.

Toyoballs · « **Reply #18 on:** Jun 11, 2005, 10:27:22 AM »

Quote from: STRAPON on Jun 03, 2005, 06:33:46 AM

I've got a 5.0 HO in my '85. Total cost was around $2,500.00 including $700.00 to rebuild the AOD. The adapter from the AOD to the TC was around $540.00 from Partsmikepart. It took about a month from start to finish. I kept the SS manifolds and yes you have to modify the passenger side to miss the frame. I use a 3 row Toyota radiator, tranny cooler and a 2000cfm pusher fan to cool it. No room for a mech. fan. I went with the auto because it's more dependable and the overdrive is great. I get 18mpg at 70mph and the truck ways about 4klbs. The engine came out of a '91 Thunderbird. It has 140k on it and runs perfect. I've put 10kmiles on it so far without a single problem. In my opinion it's the only way to go, and go it does. $Beer Chug\'n$

I take it you used the Toy transfer case/cases? How hard do you wheel it with the AOD - sounds like it's not a trailer queen. I have too many AOD's to use anything else at this point, so I'm wondering how well it will hold up to - well - my heavy right foot and being made to run at 90 deg + side angles.

The Toy Turbo radiator is enough for the 302 you say $:-\$ \ I was worried it might not be enough cooler for the 5.0, but most of my inside fender wells will be gone so heat will dissipate. Do you have any photo's of your rigs engine and tranny setups?

FATB0Y · « **Reply #19 on:** Jun 16, 2005, 05:45:38 PM »

I think I'll just leave well enough alone $I\'m Down$

Toyoballs · « **Reply #20 on:** Jun 17, 2005, 05:20:17 PM »

Quit already

You can do it... rah rah rah

I don't think it's too big a deal campared to some other things out there. I just have to know how this combo runs - I've been committed to doing it for about three years so far but doing it when I stumble across the parts I need to get it launched

I'm getting another 302 EFI tomorrow morning. Now I think I have plenty of engines just down to drive train componets now. Nothing runs like a V-8

Willy Mammoth · « **Reply #21 on:** Jun 17, 2005, 06:23:10 PM »

What about a Lexis v8, they are Toyota aren't they? They should have overhead cams too unlike the 1950 technology that the big three are still using.

FATB0Y · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 01, 2005, 08:34:02 PM »

I think what I'm gonna do is put a Toy V6 like what is in my 98 Runner. It has plenty of power.

Northern Runner · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 01, 2005, 09:11:41 PM »

I have just started to do this swap actually... 5.0L Ford from a 89 F150 4x4..
Does anyone know if you can use the stock V6 Rad to cool the V8?

crawlerdan · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 01, 2005, 09:23:23 PM »

i had a freind in cali that put a 289(very close) in a 88 toy that had a 3.0 v6, he used the stock radiator and it worked great. he later added a aux. fan for safty, but it worked. you should call foothill offroad in california, they have done a few of these swaps there # is 1-530-889-2021

Northern Runner · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 02, 2005, 02:12:06 PM »

Quote from: crawlerdan on Jul 01, 2005, 09:23:23 PM

i had a freind in cali that put a 289(very close) in a 88 toy that had a 3.0 v6, he used the stock radiator and it worked great. he later added a aux. fan for safty, but it worked. you should call foothill offroad in california, they have done a few of these swaps there # is 1-530-889-2021

Do they have a website?

crawlerdan · « **Reply #26 on:** Jul 02, 2005, 05:10:46 PM »

yes, foothilloffroad.com

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