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one last dumb question
« on: May 21, 2014, 10:31:37 PM »
how to install power steering on the 20r i believe its the newer 80s model head any body have any links or no how to do this 

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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 03:56:25 PM »
Though yours will be push pull steering, this link may help a little on what you may need, this was on my 86 but most of the needed parts will be the same just a different style.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=48187.0

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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 05:24:06 PM »
Hello mudthumper401,

Happy to hear your Toyota 4WD has round headlights :clap:

I haven't done this myself but I've spoke to those who have and I know there are a few less obvious things to consider.

Toyota had a different assembly lines for P/S and non-P/S trucks, and as a result the box pedestal bolt patterns at the frame are different. Fortunately, the 4-bolt bolt pattern at boxes themselves are the same, so a P/S box (what you need) can attach to a non-P/S pedestal (what you have). So you only need to find a good P/S box. (Side note: non-P/S pedestals have forward and rearward limit stops for the pitman arm whereas P/S pedestals do not.)

Next, there are two different pumps. One type has the high pressure line exiting the side of the pump pointing directly at the fender, and the other type has the high pressure line existing the rear of pump pointing towards the firewall. The side-exit pump is much better as it uses ball bearings, the rear-exit pump uses bushings that wear out all the time. The rear-exit pump is nice however if you want to do something similar to what Marlin did and mount an upright York A/C compressor along side the P/S pump for use as On Board Air as there is more room to position the compressor without the high pressure line of the side-exit type pump getting in your way.

Lastly, the P/S reservoir for a 1st gen mounts to the inner fender wall along the vertical section of wall -- vertical section between the top of the wheelwell and the hood line -- and these brackets are becoming very hard to find. It is incorrect but is becoming more common to use a 2nd gen (1984-1989) P/S reservoir and reservoir mount, which mounts along the radius of the wheelwell itself, in a hokey position such that you can drill four holes into the inner fender wall where ever it seems to fit best in order to mount the reservoir.

What parts do you have so far? How much research have you done for this? Always cool to see people upgrading their 1st gen Hilux so keep it up and keep your truck alive and happy! :driving:

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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #3 on: Jun 08, 2014, 01:28:33 PM »
thanks for the info big mike 

but i actually sold my 79 and bought a 83 all ready built if i new how to post pictures i would post some has a crazy rear suspension set up that i have some questions about   

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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #4 on: Jun 08, 2014, 10:42:14 PM »
Not having power steering is good for your guns!

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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #5 on: Jun 09, 2014, 07:38:28 AM »
Not having power steering is good for your guns!

We have a guy in one of our local 4WD clubs who wheels a FJ55 Land Cruiser with no power steering, no power brakes, and even with original drum front brakes. I always compliment how hardcore he is! :o

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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #6 on: Jun 09, 2014, 08:56:18 PM »
what size tires are you going to run?? it might be easier to go with hysteer.
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Re: one last dumb question
« Reply #7 on: Jun 09, 2014, 10:00:45 PM »
Here is a thread in the classified section.  Immortalyota80 is selling a complete power steering setup.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=96873.msg0;topicseen#new
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