Author Topic: ebay spool or welded spiders? (Read 3373 times)

superyota · « **on:** Sep 24, 2009, 05:45:22 PM »

found a spool on ebay for $70. is it worth it, or would you just weld up the third?

NorCalToy · « **Reply #1 on:** Sep 24, 2009, 05:54:57 PM »

welding up the third is a lot cheaper and really easy to do. might save a couple bucks and just weld it. thats what i did anyways.

superyota · « **Reply #2 on:** Sep 24, 2009, 05:58:57 PM »

how reliable is it to weld up a third? thats the only reason i'm thinking of spooling it. i just don't want to break welds and be stuck in the middle of no where. its seems like lots of guys run welded rears. i just don't know how many of them break.

NorCalToy · « **Reply #3 on:** Sep 24, 2009, 06:02:50 PM »

i welded mine with a 110v lincoln about 3 months ago and i havent had a single issue with it. i did not put a piece of plate inside it. just welded all the spiders together. the truck has been my daily driver the whole time pretty much.

Sparkplug · « **Reply #4 on:** Sep 24, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »

mines been welded for 6 mo the same way, works perfectly, i love it.

Ghtoyrunner · « **Reply #5 on:** Sep 30, 2009, 06:50:54 PM »

weld it. save some coin!!

superyota · « **Reply #6 on:** Sep 30, 2009, 10:25:22 PM »

what size tires are you guys running?

Dingman. · « **Reply #7 on:** Sep 30, 2009, 10:30:23 PM »

Ive seen guys run up to 40's on welded spiders..

If it was me and i never wanted to worry about it again. i would get a good spool..
Ive heard guys have problems of the welds breaking. when i bought my welded diff some of the welds were cracked so i went over them.. with a spool you wouldn't have to worry about it.

superyota · « **Reply #8 on:** Sep 30, 2009, 10:45:59 PM »

thats what i was thinking. i know a spool would be cheap but i would hate to break a weld on the trail, even if the chance of doing it little. thanks for the input guys.

axled89 · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 01, 2009, 02:51:29 AM »

weld it.

bleakhorizon · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 02, 2009, 09:53:47 PM »

i have been running welded rears on my DD for years, never had a problem, i do have a set of "street" tires however because it really chews your rear tires up bad... i have also had friends that welded theres up "not so great" the welds did break BUT all that it did was rotate a little bit till the spiders got jammed a bit, and im talken maybe a fraction of a rotation, if yea really dont care, just fill that center area with weld, throw some damn chunks of metal in there and weld them solid to.... hell weld the damn spiders to the case....the more the merrier....just make sure you wait between your welds, you can warp the carrier, also watch the splines on the spiders you still want to be able to shove the axles in there when your done.

BTW i spent my money i saved by welding my rear to buy a locker for the front..... just my 2c

89sastoyo · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 02, 2009, 11:02:01 PM »

I have welded 8 diffs with a 180hd miller never had one break and I have welded a couple 240sx diffs that are dd and drift cars none have broken and i have had mine out of my truck plenty of times since i welded them, no issues... I think it matters if you know how to weld it but they seem to hold up amazing for me and everyone else I have welded diffs for.

yota_krawler · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 03, 2009, 12:31:37 AM »

weld the

out of it or dont do it. If you are concerned about it breaking... make sure it doesnt break. Are you are running gears or just have 4.10s? If you are still stock gears then weld the spiders to the carrier and dont look back. If you have gears and might want to replace the spiders later then weld just the spiders together and run it HOT! Or spend the $70 bucks and not worry about it.

I ran a welded that I didnt weld and I broke it on 37s. I welded 3 more after that and they didnt break. I never worried about it tho. If you are confident in your welding then it will be fine.

NATER623 · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 06, 2009, 10:54:32 PM »

If you DD your truck do not weld it or spool it. I have a welded diff in the rear of my truck and I wore off 1/4" of tread in 4 months. Im sick of listening to my tires complain every time I turn the steering wheel. Save your cash and buy a easy locker when you can afford it.

axled89 · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 06, 2009, 10:58:55 PM »

very hard on tires on the pavement

Dingman. · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 06, 2009, 11:02:07 PM »

I say the tire wear is well worth the traction off road..

But that is a good piece of information that most people overlook..
I would peresonally save up and buy an arb or elocker though..

I ran a lockright out back and it was just unpredictable, and you trade the chirping of the welded rear end for the clicking and jerking of a auto locker.. I prefer the welded rear end much much more than that lockright. I think im gonna get a spool when i set up my next diff. an arb would be nice but i don't have 700-800 to drop on one.

86bobbedtoy · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 06, 2009, 11:39:41 PM »

I personally like simplicity,
arb= air /tank /compressor /lines /wires
E-locker= control panel/wires/emotor to hit crap

I always run welded, I have a 220 mig and put 2 small square pieces of steel in there (1/4")
never had a problem, and Im pretty hard on it, I have broke numerous axles and never cracked a weld on my diffs,
just read on how to weld it it has been covered multiple times on here
However if you dd it alot and run Iroks expect to replace rears often.

ultimately I say weld it.

Thomas P · « **Reply #17 on:** Oct 07, 2009, 06:52:51 AM »

im with heath, simplify...... ive been running a spool for 5 years with tons of trips, if i had a welded i probably would have broken it by now, i had a welded for 6 months before i got my spool and when we tore it down the bearings fell right off. id go for the spool and not have any worries, spend $100 for peace of mind

P-DiseToy24 · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 07, 2009, 12:37:27 PM »

Im a cheap a** and welded mine in every rig i've had weld the piss out of it and its proven strong than any locker on the market.

bigyota · « **Reply #19 on:** Oct 09, 2009, 06:28:14 PM »

i have mine welded in the front i it is my dd i love it more then anything im running a 36 inch irok and i broke an axle and still the welds held up and im really hard on my truck theres nothing i havent tried with it and still no problems the only rig ive seen it fail in was my 1990 bronco with the 8.8 rear but out 9 toyotas with welded rears and like 5 welded fronts still never broke a yota one and ill were 35+ tall tires

axled89 · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 09, 2009, 06:32:17 PM »

you must be a good welder.

Halladay · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 09, 2009, 06:37:01 PM »

I welded my front and rear like 2 years ago and never had a probleem.... if the welds break re-weld them!

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