Author Topic: questions before buying (Read 4436 times)

smash · « **on:** Dec 29, 2006, 10:54:16 AM »

i'm looking at getting back into a toyota. i've had and 87 and a 94, and this time i'm looking at a 2000 tacoma 4x4. the truck has a 2.4L, auto with 24,500 miles. it was wrecked and has a rebuilt title (not a problem for me cuz it'll end up a trail beater anyway).

i don't really know anything about tacomas so here's my question. are 2.7L or a 3.4L's direct bolt ins? i would go with a 5spd tranny and all the wiring and computer from a donor, i just want to know if it will bolt it without having to fab a bunch of stuff.

thanks.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 29, 2006, 11:05:33 AM »

if its a 2000 tacoma its got a 3RZ which IS a 2.7 L

smash · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 29, 2006, 11:07:38 AM »

nope, it's a 2.4L it shows up as an option on kelly blue book and the sticker under the hood says 2.4L.

smash · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 29, 2006, 11:26:25 AM »

the carfax says 2.4L too, but other than kbb, i can't find anything that says 2.4L's came in 2000's. maybe the dude read the sticker under the hood wrong.

smash · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 29, 2006, 11:33:36 AM »

ok, i think i figured it out. 2.4L(2RZFE) came in 2wd and (3RZFE) 2.7L's came in 4wd, right?

i think the seller got confused and messed me up. thanks.

MudSlinginYota · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 29, 2006, 07:12:07 PM »

tacos are great trucks,i love mine its an 02 std cab... thats the only bad thing. either get a ex cab or 4 door just so you have room to throw stuff inside

HOODLUM · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 30, 2006, 11:11:16 AM »

Quote from: smash on Dec 29, 2006, 11:33:36 AM

ok, i think i figured it out. 2.4L(2RZFE) came in 2wd and (3RZFE) 2.7L's came in 4wd, right? i think the seller got confused and messed me up. thanks.

The 2.7 is in all 4x4's with manual trans. If it has an auto trans it is def a 2.4 I've run into this at work on several occasions.JFYI You can use a 2.7 3rz head on the 2.4 2rz block.

smash · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 30, 2006, 05:49:58 PM »

good info, thanks

MudSlinginYota · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 31, 2006, 04:21:15 PM »

Quote from: HOODLUM on Dec 30, 2006, 11:11:16 AM

The 2.7 is in all 4x4's with manual trans. If it has an auto trans it is def a 2.4 I've run into this at work on several occasions.JFYI You can use a 2.7 3rz head on the 2.4 2rz block.

nope, your wrong. my buddies got a 99 taco with the 3rz automatic 4x4

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 01, 2007, 06:06:04 PM »

yep my buddy has a 3rz and auto in a 98

HOODLUM · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 02, 2007, 09:00:57 AM »

Get me a vin# not saying your wrong by anymeans but according to CAT (central atlantic toyota) and home of Toyota University where the east coast techs take there certs it's the so called rule of thumb. That's what I was told while attending one of the classes I have to take to keep my certification.
I have 2 friends with the auto and 2.4 one is a 98 and the other is a 99 and can't look up the correct parts without their vin# $Beer Chug\'n$

smash · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 02, 2007, 11:25:28 AM »

here's the VIN:

5TEVL52N7YZ690103

if anybody has carfax, they can run it there too. i already know it has a rebuilt title, but is there anything else i would want to know about it.

also, this is all really good info, but back to the original question. if it is a 2.4L, will a 2.7L bolt right in?

BigMike · « **Reply #12 on:** Jan 02, 2007, 04:41:06 PM »

Holy cow guys, this is like the "Anti-Correct-Tech Thread", if you are looking for incorrect tech, then look here!

All 1995.5 - 2004 Tacomas are offered standard with a Manual Transmission, or the optional Automatic Transmission.

The 2.4l (2RZ-FE) is ONLY offered in 2WD Regular Cab models.
The 2.7l (3RZ-FE) is ONLY offered in 2WD Xtracab or Prerunner, and 4WD models, excluding Limited Editions.

Smash, you might be interested in reading The Official 3RZ Knowledge and Database Thread to learn more about swapping a 3RZ.

I don't have any experience with the 5VZ-FE (3.4l).

As for transmissions you can use a G52/54, W56/59, or R151F/150F transmission with a 2/3RZ-FE, but you are limited to an R150F transmission on the V6 engine.

The transfercase option is dependent on your choice of transmission, with the Right-hand front output Gear Drive or the Right-or-Left-hand front output Chain Drive t/cases.

In general, I would recommend to try to get an engine that is as close to 1995 (if 4cyl) or 1996 (if V6) as possible, since this is the first year for OBD-II and will have the least amount of emissions related equipment (if applicable).

Regards,
BigMike

BigMike · « **Reply #13 on:** Jan 02, 2007, 04:44:52 PM »

Quote from: smash on Jan 02, 2007, 11:25:28 AM

if it is a 2.4L, will a 2.7L bolt right in?

In terms of compatible transmission/flexplate/flywheel/clutch, then yes.

Swapping in a 2.7 in place of a 2.4 will surely be much more simple than swapping the 3.4 for the 2.4.

I am not sure about the engine block width / placement of engine mounts of the 2RZ vs. the 3RZ.

I know the 2RZ uses different powersteering lines than the 3RZ. The Exhaust system will be nearly identical to one another (?)

smash · « **Reply #14 on:** Jan 02, 2007, 05:33:51 PM »

BigMike · « **Reply #15 on:** Feb 05, 2007, 10:08:03 AM »

I was just passing through this thread again and I noticed something I wrote in error:

Quote from: smash on Dec 29, 2006, 10:54:16 AM

i'm looking at a 2000 tacoma 4x4.

Quote from: BigMike on Jan 02, 2007, 04:41:06 PM

In general, I would recommend to try to get an engine that is as close to 1995 (if 4cyl) or 1996 (if V6) as possible, since this is the first year for OBD-II and will have the least amount of emissions related equipment (if applicable).

In California we have a smog law that prohibits installing an engine that is older than the vehicle it is being installed into.

In other words, if you have a year 2000 vehicle, then you may ONLY install an engine from a year 2000 vehicle or newer.

I don't know if this applies to you, but you might want to check it out first. If not, then definitely go with an engine that has less smog emissions if possible and practical.

BigMike

BigMike · « **Reply #16 on:** Feb 05, 2007, 10:11:30 AM »

Wait............

Are you serious? It is a 2000 4WD??????????????? And it has a 2.4L ?????????

I don't know why I didn't catch that when I replied last.

This is impossible. FWIK There is no such thing as a 4WD 2.4l Tacoma.

Got any pics

jimbo74 · « **Reply #17 on:** Feb 05, 2007, 10:26:55 AM »

Quote from: BigMike on Feb 05, 2007, 10:11:30 AM

Wait............

Are you serious? It is a 2000 4WD And it has a 2.4L

I don't know why I didn't catch that when I replied last.

This is impossible. FWIK There is no such thing as a 4WD 2.4l Tacoma.

Got any pics

about it being impossible, everyone said my 2wd didn't exist.... 2wd 85 half-ton, 8" rear, 22R, w46, g662

BigMike · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 24, 2007, 11:04:34 AM »

Hey guys,

Last weekend I was informed of a low mileage 3RZ at a local wrecking yard in an XtraCab 2WD Tacoma, so I went down there first thing in the morning............

.........I get there, find the truck, start checking it out,,,,,,,,,,, ITS A 2RZ-FE.

The Truck:
1996/4 Toyota Tacoma XtraCab
2WD 5speed

The Engine:
2RZ-FE

I was pretty shocked. The strange thing is that the intake manifold said "16 Valve" just like the 3RZ does, whereas I've seen plenty of 2RZs that do not have the "16 Valve" badge on the intake manifold. So at first glance, I thought for sure it was a 3RZ. But something didn't look right, so I check the marking on the side of the block below the thermostat housing, and sure enough, in large letters, "2RZ"

Thought I would share $Beer Chug\'n$

8D3TOY · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 26, 2007, 11:34:25 AM »

"It was wrecked and has a rebuilt title" could explain alot.

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