had a thorley, broke it at the flanges. Had a downey, always leaked at the gasket, then it cracked at the 4-1 flange, bought an LC and have had it for 8+ yrs. and is flawless, even still has the ceramic finish looking good. Buy one. BTW, used to do a ton of duning with my truck in the past, thats where i broke a ton of stuff, crawling is much easier on gear.