Author Topic: Are weber carbs more reliable than factory? (Read 4743 times)

Hurricaneinmotion · « **on:** Oct 19, 2013, 07:46:40 PM »

Do most people stay with the factory carb? Or do they change to webers when it come time to replace? What is the most reliable carb?

toyodaaddict · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 19, 2013, 08:59:40 PM »

FACTORY all day long. iv run a couple webber 32/36's and a 38. never again. a properly tuned factory carb will out perform a webber on the trail every time. thats been my experience anyway. i would also suggest rebuilding your own over getting a reman. its easy.

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 19, 2013, 09:46:18 PM »

I've never ran the stock carb. But general consensus says a stock carb will out perform a Weber off-road. But on hwy, a Weber is awesome. My old 85 Nissan 720 had serious carb issues, and a Weber was the way to go. It gave me almost 30 mph on hwy, and a crap load of power, and I never had issues off road. But I never did any serious stuff. Just fire roads.

There are some people who has ran a Weber effectively on their crawler. Marlin used to run one on his 20/22R hybrid, before he went to a 3RZ. He would switch to the stock carb when he had to smog.

And I deleted your double post.

R.DesJardin · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 20, 2013, 07:51:24 AM »

I tried the Weber on a carbed 22re, tried everything all the tip tricks, reset everything a couple times. Never did get it to run decent, it would load up bad over 5000ft which is where I wheeled most of the time. And living at 750Ft elev. it was tough to tune for both. I didn't have the stock option since the truck was dead when I bought it.
So I recommend no Weber stay stock, then swap in an RZ when you can.

Nation · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 20, 2013, 07:57:39 AM »

I havent had any issues with my webber 32/36. Gotta get em from redline. I still havent put on a fuel pressure regulator and i have not had any issues..nit sure of the altitude of the gorman miller jeep trail...but no issues.

Nation · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 20, 2013, 07:58:56 AM »

Also. Im pretty sure the stock carb is much more to rebuild than a webber.

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 20, 2013, 12:41:32 PM »

I got pretty good at adjusting mine. In the fall and in the spring, I'd have to tweak the choke. And periodically have to make adjustments on the fly, cause it would lean/rich. It all depended on time of year, and what type of driving I was doing. Driving slow things would load up, but foot to firewall, never had a issue.

Just like now, I can drive my 22RE here on the coast, and I can barely get it to do 70mph, but when I'm in Central Oregon, I can run at 80 mph all day long at 3/4 throttle, with no effort at all.

And you gotta get a REdline one, the others are crap from what I hear.

I've seen somewhere that you can put a TBI on from a GM 2.5 litre four. Either that, or just go with propane. And all the issues will fall aside.

HogCanyonHopper · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 20, 2013, 03:53:55 PM »

or do your self a big huge favor and do a 3RZ or similar swap. throw all those carbs in the trash can. fuel injection beats it all for reliability

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spuds015 · « **Reply #8 on:** Nov 01, 2013, 11:33:26 AM »

My stock carb runs too good to get rid of. Pulled all the vac lines off but kept choke kick down, vac advance and brake booster. Even the HAC valve works perfect so I never have to adjust anything. Just realize its always going to be a 22r not a v8

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #9 on:** Nov 01, 2013, 01:21:06 PM »

I've rebuilt both Weber and Toyota. Toyota carbs are not fun to do (ALOT MORE PARTS) but run WAY better than the 32/36 on off camber and bumpy hill climb situations. Weber's are cake to rebuild but seem to flood out on crazy climbs unless you do the "Bowl Mod", they also tend to take a lot more adjustments/tuning throughout the weather and altitude changes.... I no longer run carbs, EFI is the only way to go in my opinion $Beer Chug\'n$

kneedownnate · « **Reply #10 on:** Nov 01, 2013, 10:02:29 PM »

I did the bowl mod on my weber and it still floods out on easy trails. As cheesy said, you have to make frequent adjustments to webers for where you're driving. I am tired of adjusting at home and re-adjusting for altitude/weather as I drove. Pointless waste of time. Carefully rebuild a factory card and call it good, and get the adapter to run the 22r carb if you have a 20r intake manifold (what I'm doing).

Or better yet, swap it out for propane or efi.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #11 on:** Nov 02, 2013, 08:37:57 AM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Nov 01, 2013, 10:02:29 PM

I did the bowl mod on my weber and it still floods out on easy trails. As cheesy said, you have to make frequent adjustments to webers for where you're driving. I am tired of adjusting at home and re-adjusting for altitude/weather as I drove. Pointless waste of time. Carefully rebuild a factory card and call it good, and get the adapter to run the 22r carb if you have a 20r intake manifold (what I'm doing).

Or better yet, swap it out for propane or efi.

X2 very well put

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #12 on:** Nov 02, 2013, 10:42:36 AM »

If I was to ever rebuild the 22RTE thats sitting under my work bench, I'd go propane on it. Cause propane is cheap, and it loves boost.

bruzer · « **Reply #13 on:** Nov 02, 2013, 12:25:15 PM »

Lot of interesting opinions. All are good. I personal think my weber out performs the stock carb on the rocks all day long. My stock carb use to flood out on steep climbs where the weber dosen't. Guess it just depends on how its tuned.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #14 on:** Nov 02, 2013, 08:31:39 PM »

Didn't mention, but in the 14 years I've had my weber I've tried every minute adjustment to the float level to try to avoid flooding. None has worked.

The more I think about it, the more I want to go propane, especially if I drop in my buick v6

luvyota · « **Reply #15 on:** Nov 02, 2013, 09:10:38 PM »

i had a Weber on the stock engine in my luv and it always had problems rebuilt it myself and still was not that great even had someone redo it and tune it and not any better. so i kept the stock Toyota carb on the 22r i swapped in it and does way better then the Weber only have problems on real steep hills.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #16 on:** Nov 02, 2013, 10:09:04 PM »

I've had my Redline Weber for about ten years now and it does great. I can climb hills up to 45* as long as its not bouncing and sidehills are no problem. sure it needs to have a screw driver touch it occasionally but I'm happy with it.

crazymoritz97 · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 04, 2013, 09:18:20 PM »

i need help . i got a 32/36 and it's not wanting to run right

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #18 on:** Nov 05, 2013, 11:39:18 AM »

What are the symptoms?

crazymoritz97 · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 05, 2013, 01:14:48 PM »

well it acts like i'm not getting fuel after i get it run . i got new filters then i'm not shere on putting a presssure gauge in it for the turn down ? i it's has a new fuel pump ?

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #20 on:** Nov 05, 2013, 02:16:56 PM »

How many turns out is your idle/air mixture screw? Possible that your floats arent adjusted right or sticky...

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