i think time for new tires?

[88 orange runner]

I went wheeling today and my coopers are pretty billed I got stuck so I was wondering what tires I should get and what size I have a stock 86 yota I really like the km2 tires but don't know what size to get

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ones that are round made out of rubber and have knobs on them, or nubs.

No but really what kind of wheelin do you do? mud, rocks, trails, sand? do you want to lift it or just run stock size tires?

[emsvitil]

Is the problem with the equipment or the driver?

[88 orange runner]

Well I'm going to lift it when I get money so I want to buy tires that will look ok when I lift it and I mostly do mud

[BadnewsBob]

Unless you reargear it anything more than 31s will kill your power.   31x10.50 KM2 look and work great.

[daniresch]

Well I'm going to lift it when I get money so I want to buy tires that will look ok when I lift it and I mostly do mud

the biggest i was able to run was 32" on ifs without cutting my fenders and i rubbed at full crank. when you say lift do you mean ifs lift, or sas?

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I fit 35s stock on my ifs 4runner. no body lift or torsion crank just depends on how much you want to cut. I've ran 35s on 4.10s with efi and a 5 speed its not the fastest thing but it will still move. I'd go with 33s and good wheels then when you do a lift it will still look good and you will have a nice set of wheels for when you go bigger tires.

[88 orange runner]

Well when I lift it it will be an sas I was thinking  31 km2 but my buddy says they dont work real great in mud

[daniresch]

km2s work great in mud. i'd finish the sas FIRST, then buy some bigger tires 

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your buds dumb lol. the km2 is a mud tire more then anything else. but all mud is different.

[83 Crawler]

your buds dumb lol. the km2 is a mud tire more then anything else. but all mud is different.

agree km2s do work

[88 orange runner]

Yea his km2 s arnt doin to good he got stuck last night

[daniresch]

 

[83 Crawler]

Yea his km2 s arnt doin to good he got stuck last night

driver error

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yeah driver error I went out and played with street tires today in stuff I shouldn't have been in. I have a elocker which helps and I also know how to drive. Your friend must just not know how to drive his toyota yet. hammer down revlimiter or valve float though the mud and up hill climbs you will make it.

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thats with bald old style bfg m/ts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqt9b-pWbo

[88 orange runner]

Yea that's pretty cool yea I'm hopeing to get enough money for some km2s

[daniresch]

Yea that's pretty cool yea I'm hopeing to get enough money for some km2s

so your not doing the sas first?

[daniresch]

The 35" km2s are actually cheaper than the 33"s by like 20 bucks.

[91 ex-cab]

driver error

yeah driver error I went out and played with street tires today in stuff I shouldn't have been in. I have a elocker which helps and I also know how to drive. Your friend must just not know how to drive his toyota yet. hammer down revlimiter or valve float though the mud and up hill climbs you will make it.

Ya it was all driver error If your gonna sit behind your computer and say I don't know how to drive then get your  down here and i'll take you guys out to the exact same spot that I got stuck, it's right on the edge of a lake in the nastiest mud I have ever seen. Ya I could sit there and hammer down and cruise through it but we were trying to pull another truck out so it just dug down and that was game over.

  I went out and wheeled everywhere in the mud and never got stuck before that and I was not that happy with how the tires worked.

[91 ex-cab]

your buds dumb lol. the km2 is a mud tire more then anything else. but all mud is different.

Yep i'm really dumb, I know there a mud tire thats why I said I was suprized they didn't work that well for me in the mud. Like I said in the post above this if you think i'm dumb and can't drive then you and 83crawler12 can come down here and well go wheeling.

[91 ex-cab]

 At this point tires or driver aren't going to matter unless you have 44 boggers.

[SloCrawler]

   other than boggers and HP your stuck in this situation unless you got some huge balloons under your rig.

[daniresch]

A different mud tire would have totally gotten you out of that 

[91 ex-cab]

A different mud tire would have totally gotten you out of that  

Never said it would. If you can read you would have noticed I posted that picture to show those other dumb flops that it had nothing to do with driver error

  Any of you stop to think I live in a different state than you, maybe I wheel different terrain than you and possibly km2's work differently on it than were you wheel?

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Well that's no reason to say they suck in the mud. And yeah that is driver error for going in to that stuff with small tires and probably no lockers. What where you expecting to float over it? your truck don't look that dirty either so you didn't really try to get out that well.

[91 ex-cab]

Well that's no reason to say they suck in the mud. And yeah that is driver error for going in to that stuff with small tires and probably no lockers. What where you expecting to float over it? your truck don't look that dirty either so you didn't really try to get out that well.

I never ever said they suck in the mud.  Once again your running your mouth about driver error when you don't know the situation  . I didn't try to get out that well cause my truck isn't that dirty, you sir are a genius

[88 orange runner]

He couldn't get out it wasn't driver error at all if you guys were there you would totally understand it was crazy mud he couldn't even open his door that's how down in the mud he was there is no way in Hell you would ever get out of that by just gassing the crap out of it

[88 orange runner]

so your not doing the sas first?

.  I might just cut my genders and buy bigger tires then when I get money sas it

[daniresch]

Yea his km2 s arnt doin to good he got stuck last night

This is the quote that begin this 'discussion' I think. Anyway, issue has been resolved.

.  I might just cut my genders and buy bigger tires then when I get money sas it

Would recommend SASing and building it first, than risk breaking IFS parts on the trail.