MiniSimp's 1985

[Wermz84]

Lets See a picture with Shackles?

[MiniSimp]

Lets See a picture with Shackles?

Geez you're demanding.

[tom w.]

would you trim the frame so that the spring don't bottom out on it?

[*FFC*]

That's pretty cool Kyle...

[MiniSimp]

would you trim the frame so that the spring don't bottom out on it?

Not sure that it would. I'd cycle the suspension before I notched the frame just to check.

That's pretty cool Kyle...

Thanks, I agree, however it may lower my rear too much and I may not even do it. I'll have to check that out when I get home.

[*FFC*]

Not sure that it would. I'd cycle the suspension before I notched the frame just to check.Thanks, I agree, however it may lower my rear too much and I may not even do it. I'll have to check that out when I get home.

Then add another leaf

[MiniSimp]

Then add another leaf

Yeah...not sure if I would want to, I really like the way the suspension rides right now.

[Cheesemaker]

I remember reading some 4x4 mag that covered some prerunner pickups, and they were running the shackle attachment point above the frame.  And they were running like 12" or so of shackle that was plated and reinforced along the outer sides.  Which gave more droop and compression out of the springs!  Instead of the 6" or so range of motion in the stock shackles it gave them more like 14" of shackle movement!  I wish I could find the article, it explained it better and the pics really drove the idea home!  Something to think about!

[*** YELLER ***]

So, I am thinking about mounting my shackle hanger on the inside of the frame for the rear, this should lower the rear a bit and I think it will work.


What do you guys think?

I think Im gonna loose more blood 

[MiniSimp]

I think Im gonna loose more blood 

Cristie says you have to clean up the blood you left in the back yard. 

[*** YELLER ***]

Cristie says you have to clean up the blood you left in the back yard. 

Tell her sorry I was to busy Bleeding to catch it all...    should'nt you do it 'cause it was YOUR grinder   

[MiniSimp]

should'nt you do it 'cause it was YOUR grinder   

My grinder didn't bleed all over the concrete, YOUR knee did. "I'm like a surgeon with a grinder...."

[MiniSimp]

Since Dave demonstrated the incorrect method of cutting off shackles for me, I decided to use a Milwaukee Portaband saw this time. The results and safety were greatly improved. (gonna have to remember to buy one of those)

So measuring nice and safe by being under a truck entirely held up by 2 high-lift jacks, I was able to measure a difference of about 3.5" difference between mounting them below the frame and above the frame. That would lower my ride height 1.75" (about the same height as the pivot blocks) and I'm pretty sure that would level my truck out with a light load (no camping gear) so I think I am OK with mounting them above the frame with Marlin's 5.5" shackles (was running 5" before).

It kinda sucks for Dave though, that's not an easy place to weld, might have to use an Arc welder for this one...

[Wermz84]

Geez you're demanding.

Yes Very!!   

I'm am interested in this idea to help keep the COG lower.     Make sure the shackle doesnt rub the frame.  you wouldn't want anymore noise.  haha

[*** YELLER ***]

It kinda sucks for Dave though, that's not an easy place to weld, might have to use an Arc welder for this one...

Dude that will be cake for me to weld  I think we can get good penatration all around and if you want we can drill two holes right under the mount and button weld them for more strength 

[Duffil]

I think Im gonna loose more blood 

Just remember Dave: You have to be 3% smarter than the equipment you are trying to operate.

[*** YELLER ***]

Just remember Dave: You have to be 3% smarter than the equipment you are trying to operate.

Great now you tell me  and the wiffey said that Im screwed 'cause Im to dumb to be smarter that any equipment I operate 

[MiniSimp]

I remember reading some 4x4 mag that covered some prerunner pickups, and they were running the shackle attachment point above the frame. 

Total Chaos Fabrication

[*** YELLER ***]

Ok, MINISIMP and I finished the rear shackles up today, overall, I like it and the angle came out great! The truck is now 1.75" lower!

[*** YELLER ***]

 

[DTB]

that looks pretty cool...what did you do on the inside of the frame? it is open c channel back there right? not boxed?

[*** YELLER ***]

that looks pretty cool...what did you do on the inside of the frame? it is open c channel back there right? not boxed?

Yup open in the back just enough fer the shackle to fit in and weld up 

[MiniSimp]

that looks pretty cool...what did you do on the inside of the frame? it is open c channel back there right? not boxed?

4th picture down...

[DTB]

thats awesome...i wanna copy that

I have never seen that done on a yota..have other people done this? how does it work? did you have to adjust anything else? pinion angle? shock mounts? etc....

[MiniSimp]

thats awesome...i wanna copy that

Again?

I have never seen that done on a yota..have other people done this? how does it work? did you have to adjust anything else? pinion angle? shock mounts? etc....

Don't know.
You just relocate the shackle hanger.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.

[Duffil]

[Tallchevy]

  are you crazy Mini, first you let Yeller grind his knee instead of the truck    Now your letting him play with 

[Duffil]

you just wish they were that big...

[MiniSimp]

are you crazy Mini, first you let Yeller grind his knee instead of the truck    Now your letting him play with 

Yeller is good with

you just wish they were that big...

So does my wife!

[Duffil]

on another note, I like your shackle mount.  I think it will only work well with the pivot blocks though, because the springs won't want to twist as much. I had another question but i am and forgot it.