ARP Wheel studs**RIP Great Idea**

Started by zippo, March 19, 2010, 07:29:34 PM

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zippo

So i've been looking at/for wheel studs for the 85 Front Axle. "I will be using the FROR full float rear, so the same wheel studs all the way around". I know the dealership, NAPA and prolly a few others sell them, but im tired of getting broken facotry style wheel studs! I want ARP ARP2000 or CUSTOM AGE 625 PLUS wheel studs!

I'm interested in trying to get ARP to fill a custom order for ARP ARP2000 Wheel Studs who would buy em? The more I buy the easier it will be and CHEAPER! Any takers? Tell your friends, get the numbers up lets see.

Im also looking at bumping the studs lenght up to 60 mm maybe even 65mm to allow better thread engagment with the wheel spacers, etc.

Just me alone will be 24 Studs...

If you see it, its for sale.

woodfella

depending on price I would most likely be in :cool: PM me details as you get them

TacoRunner

I think they offer a Chevy stud that fits the Toyota hub, but it uses a different diameter and pitch thread.
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toe

I replaced mine with Dorman Grade 8's and never had any problems since (vs OEM grade ?)


How do these studs compare to grade 8's ?
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zippo

#4
Grade 8 applies to standard bolts

Standard Grade

Grade 5 : Medium Carbon Steel : 85,000 - 120,000 PSI
Grade 8 : Medium Carbon Alloy Steel : 120,000 - 150,000 PSI

Metric Grade

Grade 8.8 : Medium Carbon Steel : 85,000 - 120,000 PSI
Grade 10.9 : Alloy Steel : 120,000 - 150,000 PSI

ARP material.

8740 CHROME MOLY : quench and temper steel : 180,000 - 210,000
ARP2000 : hybrid-alloy : 215,000 - 220,000
CUSTOM AGE 625 PLUS : super-alloy : 260,000 PSI

So yes. A HUGE upgrade is possible from factory style Studs. If they make or will make them.

If you are just doing the rear or IFS front axle, they make studs for a LEXUS that will work. But nothing for the 79-85 solid axle.

Quote from: TacoRunner on March 19, 2010, 11:37:51 PM
I think they offer a Chevy stud that fits the Toyota hub, but it uses a different diameter and pitch thread.

What fun is that! Its not worth doing if you have to have different sets of lugs.
If you see it, its for sale.

TacoRunner

Quote from: toe on March 20, 2010, 12:16:16 AM
I replaced mine with Dorman Grade 8's and never had any problems since (vs OEM grade ?)


How do these studs compare to grade 8's ?

I've put Dormans at every wheel more than once, and they always gum up IF YOU DONT USE ANTI SEIZE. I hate haveing to use anti seize. They have a poorly build thread that is rough, which is why they gum up. I would love some ARP wheel studs, but I would also like them to be 1" longer. But I dont think this is worth it, but the ARP chevy ones and just change the wheel nuts. Much easier, much cheaper, much quicker than a custom order.
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REG535

i am in depeding on the price, new arp wheel studs would be nice, front and rear for me. When i bought my yota one rear wheel stud was half broke and still is lol, new ones in the back first for me. tell us what happens, very intersted.
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zippo

GOOD NEWS!... somewhat

I called and spoke with ARP about getting custom studs made! I will be emailing the stud specs to them when I get home and hope to hear something back in the morning. But the way he talked it wouldn't be a problem!

No price yet, but the more I order the cheaper they are. He said at 100-200 Pieces the price really starts to drop! So we need to start getting the word out to get the $$ down for all of us! I'lle keep you posted!
If you see it, its for sale.

HDcruiser

That is so weird that this thread was started. I was going to call ARP tomorrow and ask about custom Wheel studs. The wheel stud i am currently using is a Dorman # 610-264.1....   its a M12-1.50. The problem im haveing is i just bought a set of T/R beadlock wheels and the center of the wheel is thicker than my old wheels. I can only 6 full rotations on the stud when torqued down to 80 ft pounds. I need this stud to be a 1/2" longer to get to get more of the lug nut on the stud. Im looking to get 12 and possible another 12 for a friend. I will get a hold of him tonight.

HDcruiser

Can you PM me the specs, if its what im looking for, i will take 24.  :crossed:

zippo

Alot of people have this problem. It is also a problem with wheel spacers. I am going to have them extedned the thread  by prolly 10mm/0.39inch. Perhaps a even a little more. I'lle keep you posted and post the specs i have and information exchanged with ARP.
If you see it, its for sale.

HDcruiser


86toyota

interested. Let us know what they what they tell you after you send them the specs
T86OTA

REG535

24 also, when they a lil longer would it affect how the nut from going all the way down? dumb question lol. just curious or would it be the same as the factory length with the nut on them.
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zippo

To gain full affect you would need a lug from ARP made from the same material, prolly something like 8740 Chrome Moly. It would be an open nut and size wouldn't really matter. The key in my mind is the wheel spacer and it not protruding into the wheel.
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REG535

oh k, so a lug nut too? why open nut i kinda like them closed? like the stock ones. and if you didnt have wheel spacers would it matter for us that dont
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86toyota

wouldnt you need 36 studs...24 spindle studs + 12 more wheel spacer studs?
T86OTA

zippo

Any lug nut with the proper thread pitch should work. Many people make them with different lenghts that would work. I am unsure if ARP makes "Acorn" ones or not. I will ask

Quote from: 86toyota on March 22, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
wouldnt you need 36 studs...24 spindle studs + 12 more wheel spacer studs?

I'm not sure if you can even change the wheel spacer studs. I plan on using ARP studs/nuts to hold the spacer on and then the spacer nuts on the tires.
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HDcruiser

Zippo, this is what im currently using. I need the shoulder lenth to be the same, the threads is what i need to be longer. If the ARP studs you are requesting is like this but longer, im all over it..

 
 Type: Serrated Stud
Thread: M12-1.5
Knurl Dia.: 14.46mm
Length: 52.5mm
Shoulder Length: 25mm
Head Code:  
Brand: Dorman - AutoGrade - Bagged





86toyota

T86OTA

zippo

Yeah that looks like the specs i miced. I will post it when i get home.
If you see it, its for sale.

HDcruiser

Sweet, i was able to get the picture in the post.. the picture is almost the actual size. I have the stud in my hand  right now.. 

zippo

When i messaured it it got a Curl of 14.33. Other then that they are the same.
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TacoRunner

Sweet  :yesnod: I wishing I had done more with this a year ago when I was messing with my junk. Personnally I want new studs that are .750" longer with an open tapered nut.

Sign me up for 24 of them bad boys.
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zippo

If it goes through, Maybe we can work out a deal :-p


Quote from: TacoRunner on March 22, 2010, 07:10:57 PM
Sweet  :yesnod: I wishing I had done more with this a year ago when I was messing with my junk. Personnally I want new studs that are .750" longer with an open tapered nut.

Sign me up for 24 of them bad boys.

19mm that would be a huge increase! I'lle have to check and make sure it will clear everything!
If you see it, its for sale.

kneedownnate

Tacos and tundras need longer studs in the front too, they're ridiculously short!  I'd like to do the taco front brake swap but would want studs 1/2-3/4" longer.
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zippo

Im not sure if Tacos and Tundras use the same stud. I think it has a shorter sholder 25mm. If i am able to get the Solid axle stuff made ille see about getting others.
If you see it, its for sale.

toe

Quote from: zippo on March 22, 2010, 06:16:58 PM
To gain full affect you would need a lug from ARP made from the same material, prolly something like 8740 Chrome Moly. It would be an open nut and size wouldn't really matter. The key in my mind is the wheel spacer and it not protruding into the wheel.

Actually, I'd want the lug nut to be weaker so it strips out or breaks first.......

It's a lot easier to replace the nuts than the studs...........
Me

zippo

Here are the specs I got and am send to ARP. I will be upping the thread length from 24.5 to 34.5. I'lle let you know something when i do!




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Cheesemaker

Just a thought.  Why don't ya give Marlin a call, and see if he is willing to make the order, and sell them?  That way, he can do the order for larger quantities, and get a cheaper price.  He may already have some ideas in mind too!!   :dunno: 
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