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front breather
« on: May 22, 2009, 09:10:13 PM »
Has anyone had problems installing the TG Creeper Breather on the front 8'' toy axle? Mine is stock height maybe thats the major issue, but I didnt think it mattered and they did not state I needed a lift to install on front.

Anyhow I got it on there but I still hit the frame unless I move the rubber piece around so it doesnt contact the frame, even so it will have some kink to it.

Right now its barely hitting the frame also how in hell do you get that hose clamp thats already on the breather back tight? I squeezed it with the pliers but seems loose, is the rubber breather supposed to move around with your hand? I guess I will have to add another hose clamp, I tried to get it off with no luck.

I know this sounds dumb but its being a pain in the butt.



Am going to run and see how it does though.

Any thoughts btw the rear fits great with no issues.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 02:32:03 PM »
dunno, get 90 degree brass elbow? and point it the other way? Ive never seen one of these, i just ran tubing up to a filter i mounted in the cab. :dunno: as for the hoseclamp, were not talking about some obscene pressure, any hoseclamp should do.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 02:50:47 PM »
I also just used some tubing with a filter, but I ran it into the engine compartment. I really don't think the bellows hitting the frame will be a big issue  :twocents:
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Re: front breather
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 05:12:29 PM »
thanks guys, ya it hits just a little. am going to run it and see how it goes.
90 degree one might work, but am going to try it for now :gap:
I also changed the hose clamp today on it to the screw setting one, no more breather (bellow) movement
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Re: front breather
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2009, 08:25:19 PM »
I hit mine all day long when i had those breathers. I run the stock breathers now since here in AZ deep water crossings are a rarity

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Re: front breather
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 11:51:51 PM »
imo those breathers are a joke, get the right fitting and run the vent into the cab.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2009, 07:48:42 AM »
they didnt work the way i thought they would

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Re: front breather
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009, 04:33:05 PM »
how so?
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Re: front breather
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2009, 05:34:01 PM »
They are too stiff, mine didnt expand at all. When i had them at the round up they did fine on the trail but when i had to drive from tahoe back to loon lake i think it built up way too much pressure and was spewing oil out of my rear bearing retainer area. But when driving slow it was dry as a bone.

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Re: front breather
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 06:24:11 PM »
i will see what happens
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Re: front breather
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 07:01:36 PM »
I honestly don't understand why people keep coming on marlin and asking about trail gear parts.  You know the history and bad blood, so if you have a question or concern about their product, go to their site and ask away  :thumbs:
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Re: front breather
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 07:15:08 PM »
ya well i usually dont get a response from very many members on there and sometimes just get one response out of customer support.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 08:20:45 PM »
ya well i usually dont get a response from very many members on there and sometimes just get one response out of customer support.


which would be one of the many reasons marlin is better :gap: 


I just did what most others did, get the right hose barb fitting, and run a hose up into the engine compartment or cab.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 08:30:03 PM »
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!



Don't think I'd want it to be a sealed system like that, too much to go wrong, best thing is to run a line up from the diff as high as you can get it and then top it off with a breather. The best line I know of is brake line.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 08:56:28 PM »
I use fuel line and a fuel filter run under the hood ending up near the top of the firewall.....
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Re: front breather
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2009, 07:25:54 AM »
can you guys post pics of yours, the barb fitting thats on there now would work right? I just take off the bellow and add the line
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Re: front breather
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2009, 07:37:16 AM »
Brake line should thread in as is.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #17 on: Jun 23, 2009, 11:07:32 AM »
hey guys. lil update i dont think they are working. it seems to me am getting more oil out of my inner axle seals in the front than the stock part!

so am going to go with fuel line and a cheap fuel filter and throw the bellow in the trash.
is 12ft enough.  :thumbs:
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Re: front breather
« Reply #18 on: Jun 23, 2009, 11:31:04 AM »
This is all the stuff I used to make my front and rear breathers, aside from the mini K&N filters which are ridiculously priced now (7.99 each) and not necessary, it was about 2 or 3 bucks worth of parts and works great. A lot better than that TG accordion breather. Fuel filters are dirt cheap and make great filters for the ends. I just like the little K&Ns cuz they look cool  :greengrin:

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Front breather routed up into the engine bay:



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Re: front breather
« Reply #19 on: Jun 23, 2009, 11:37:06 AM »
thanks for the pic and help. am going to do this on the weekend or during the week. i knew better just didnt do better :gap:
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Re: front breather
« Reply #20 on: Jun 23, 2009, 11:43:11 AM »
thanks for the pic and help. am going to do this on the weekend or during the week. i knew better just didnt do better :gap:

Yeah I just took my stock dif breather into Napa with me and went through their parts bins to find the fitting the threads into the axle housing.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #21 on: Jun 23, 2009, 11:53:46 AM »
all the help is sure here  :)
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Re: front breather
« Reply #22 on: Jun 23, 2009, 03:30:12 PM »
is 1/4 hose diameter correct to use or 1/8?
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Re: front breather
« Reply #23 on: Jun 23, 2009, 05:29:41 PM »
i was going to ask after reading on and old barney4x4 site. Which fuel filter to use? So I need one with both ends and not a closed unit right? if i close the end then it will casue to much pressure correct? and with the end open it will let air in for it breathe correct? http://partimages.genpt.com/partimages/432438.jpg
http://partimages.genpt.com/partimages/830333.jpg the top on both of these i dont cap off correct. thanks
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Re: front breather
« Reply #24 on: Jun 23, 2009, 05:34:42 PM »
i need some pics of fuel filter on the breathers. and when i do this i want the hose up and down ? as much as possible or does it matter if the hose is flat etc
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Re: front breather
« Reply #25 on: Jun 24, 2009, 10:04:19 AM »
This is how I did mine.  I used 4crawler's site for reference.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #26 on: Jun 24, 2009, 10:55:15 AM »
so today am going to get 12ft of fuel line. and two vw fuel filters, i need one with the hole on both sides of the fuel filter right not just one?
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Re: front breather
« Reply #27 on: Jun 24, 2009, 11:01:53 AM »
thanks for the link.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #28 on: Jun 24, 2009, 02:18:30 PM »
so i got the front done but a quick question how do i know if the fuel filter is upside down lol? do i want the arrows up or down? if that makes sense.

also should i put cap on the end of the fuel filter that doesn't have the hose on the other side? thanks

btw here is the fuel filter i used: http://www.napafilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=3011 I have it mounted as pictured left to right with hose on left side of it.
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Re: front breather
« Reply #29 on: Jun 24, 2009, 03:11:55 PM »
thats TG breather is getto  is it venting the axle or playing some Poka 
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