Author Topic: soo i figured out why i dont have much flex (Read 4217 times)

spaded1 · « **on:** Mar 29, 2009, 05:21:54 PM »

i figured out that my shocks are getting maxed out and thats why im always lifting my rear tires.. can anybody give me any advice on like where to remount them or anything! ANYTHING!! $:-\$

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 05:27:24 PM »

PICTURES WOULD HELP

spaded1 · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 05:34:21 PM »

well i have to resize the pics before i can post them. but if you look at my default the right rear tire is off the ground. and the shocks are still in stock placement,, if that helps out any

jimbo74 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 05:51:17 PM »

put them in a /\ formation

DTB · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 05:52:44 PM »

just get longer shocks......

Ya can't lift it without putting longer shocks on

You dont need to move any mounts

spaded1 · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 05:57:20 PM »

i didnt put the lift on,, the previous owner did

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 07:15:55 PM »

Quote from: spaded1 on Mar 29, 2009, 05:57:20 PM

i didnt put the lift on,, the previous owner did

its still lifted though isnt it

spaded1 · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 07:31:01 PM »

yea it is,,,,ive just left things the way they are because of $$$.. so im just gonna get new shocks when i can. and mount them in a ^

Yotaman80 · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 29, 2009, 08:31:58 PM »

Dont clock them in too much or you will have no stability in the rear when you are at speeds, assuming the truck is driven on the road. the only thing the shock do clocked in is for more flex but if its trailed then that what you want for more flex.

All_Set · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 07:31:54 AM »

1st: I'd check to make sure it's actually the shock limiting your flex.

It'd really suck to buy new shocks, or do alot of fabwork to relocate them, then find out your 4" rancho springs flex like a poooo. Then find out you have to redo/rebuy when you buy better springs..

If you can identify the shock, and find it's full extended length online, then next time you lift it, measure the shock and verify that the shock is actually limiting it.

boobap · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 10:03:12 AM »

what about your brake lines? if it was lifted enough to max your shocks...i would check those also.

*ROKTOY* · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 10:54:24 AM »

Do your self a favor and remove your rear shocks from the axle mount and see just how much more flex you can get.

BigMike · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 11:01:45 AM »

Quote from: *ROKTOY* on Mar 30, 2009, 10:54:24 AM

Do your self a favor and remove your rear shocks from the axle mount and see just how much more flex you can get.

That is a good idea to get a baseline of how much flex is even possible.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 11:40:04 AM »

shocks, who needs shocks?

00taco · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 11:47:29 AM »

put them into an /\ frame trail gear sells the shock mounts for the axle to do it yourself or you can by a kit from off-road solutions. Just make sure the top shock mounts when relocating are about 12 inches apart and put the bottom mounts as close the the leafs as possible. I would also check your leafs?

Slolyfe · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 02:03:44 PM »

Here are two pictures of relocating the shock mounts.

00taco · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 02:06:59 PM »

spaded1 · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 07:49:53 PM »

ive never heard about taking the shocks off and seeing what kind of flex i really have. thats not gonna hurt anything is it?? cuz yea it is my daily driver too. and no the brake lines are okay, i relocated them so they arent a problem.. and my shocks i have now are rancho 5000

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 08:12:38 PM »

If you take the shocks off to see the true amount of flex you actually have the only thing to be wary of is the brake line. you could very easily rip it off the rig. When testing very slowly articulate the axles making sure you don't run out of line.

DTB · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 08:25:33 PM »

Quote from: 00taco on Mar 30, 2009, 11:47:29 AM

put them into an /\ frame trail gear sells the shock mounts for the axle

anyways, just take the shocks off...measure your compression and droop....give or take at least 3/4 inch each way and thats how long your shocks need to be

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 30, 2009, 10:04:54 PM »

Quote from: spaded1 on Mar 30, 2009, 07:49:53 PM

ive never heard about taking the shocks off and seeing what kind of flex i really have. thats not gonna hurt anything is it?? cuz yea it is my daily driver too. and no the brake lines are okay, i relocated them so they arent a problem.. and my shocks i have now are rancho 5000

No, it won't hurt anything at all. I actually DD'd my truck with no rear shocks for a few years. As of now, it still doesn't have shocks on it

95yotakid · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 31, 2009, 07:39:28 AM »

Thats probably what i'd do like everybody says moiunt them in a /\. cause your flex isn't so good i get about that much if not a little more with my ifs

Plekto · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 31, 2009, 01:56:17 PM »

I'd actually mount them like in the second photo if it is a highway rig/daily driver. Fast lane changes and having the entire back end wobble or lean on you isn't that great..

82rustbeast · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 08, 2009, 10:38:40 PM »

i bought some trailer u-bolts and took the plates and just put them on top, and bolted it all down. moved my shocks 6 in closer, perfect length for the flex i have

grant526 · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 12, 2009, 11:44:47 AM »

Looks like your getting as much flex as you can with an IFS truck. But do like was recommended and remove the shocks, so you can measure how much flex you have the capability of. Make sure you have a buddy watching your brake line while doing so. As long as you're running IFS, your limiting your ability to flex anyway, but getting a little more in the rear might be nice.

Also, before you remove your shocks, measure them at "Full Extension" then measure them again at full extension after they have been removed. This will help to confirm that the shocks ARE the limiting factor.

If you do decide to reposition the top mount onto the crossmember, keep in mind that the farther they are from perpendicular to the axle, the less they will help.

82rustbeast · « **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2009, 09:03:18 AM »

heres what i was talking about, cost me less than $10 at Napa

Slolyfe · « **Reply #26 on:** May 01, 2009, 12:10:11 PM »

Quote from: 82(not)rust(y)beast on May 01, 2009, 09:03:18 AM

heres what i was talking about, cost me less than $10 at Napa

Thats pretty slick!

NorCalToy · « **Reply #27 on:** May 01, 2009, 04:19:59 PM »

Quote from: 82(not)rust(y)beast on May 01, 2009, 09:03:18 AM

heres what i was talking about, cost me less than $10 at Napa

i saw an explorer at the junkyard that had that same type of setup. integrated shock mount. early 90s exlporer if any one gets a chance to look at one.

IronClad · « **Reply #28 on:** May 01, 2009, 04:22:07 PM »

Doesnt look like it has much contact on the spring ? just the edges? i had somthing similar and i kept breaking springs in that area

Tallchevy · « **Reply #29 on:** May 02, 2009, 12:16:58 PM »

Quote from: spaded1 on Mar 30, 2009, 07:49:53 PM

ive never heard about taking the shocks off and seeing what kind of flex i really have. thats not gonna hurt anything is it?? cuz yea it is my daily driver too. and no the brake lines are okay, i relocated them so they arent a problem.. and my shocks i have now are rancho 5000

Drive to the place where your going to test your suspension then unbolt & remove the shock from the lower mount. Flex it up & see if you get more flex.

As far as relocating your rear shocks, you can use the 2wd ubolt plates from an 84 & up. The 2wd trucks are a spring under axle. Use the plate & mount it to the top of the spring like in the pic's above. The nice thing about using the 2wd plates is that it keeps the shock mounts in the stock location but moves it to the top of the spring. Just make sure that you don't top out the shock. You still might have to get different shocks.

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