Author Topic: Gotta replace a 3.0 V6 (Read 3221 times)

Birfailed · « **on:** Nov 28, 2008, 09:41:08 AM »

So I got a 93 Runner with a blown 3.0, got a lead on a running low mileage 3.0 for 450 bucks. Not bad in my opinion, local junkyard wanted 1800 for a 3.0 that had bearing material in the oil. So it's a direct swap, gotta pull the old one and drop in the new one. This is my first 3.0, looks like it's a PITA to work on. Are these things ridiculously frustrating to work on? To give ya an idea of my patience...Once I had to do a timing belt on a ford escort and had to drop one side of the motor to get to it and it frustrated me soo much that I took a shovel to the body and glass. My buddy wants 150 to pull the old one and drop in the new one. He needs the money so I figure I'd be stimulating the economy at the same time. Or keep the 150 and do it myself?

Mavericks · « **Reply #1 on:** Nov 28, 2008, 10:46:27 AM »

They are kind of a pain to work on but, I havent done that much to mine and it has about 234k on it. I paid someone to do the head gasket on it about 3 years ago. If you trust the guy thats going to drop it in I think thats a good deal. My problem is I dont trust anyone to do it right.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Nov 28, 2008, 10:56:26 AM »

i have done timing belts on front wheel drives myself

i would go ahead and stimulate your friends economy,

Blackdog has done this like 4 times so he's the expert

lucky7 · « **Reply #3 on:** Nov 28, 2008, 02:19:40 PM »

I'd pay a buck 50

NorCalToy · « **Reply #4 on:** Nov 28, 2008, 04:34:43 PM »

if its reliable work id pay the 150 to get it done.

i recently did a 3.0 swap on my truck and at this point i havent gotten it running all the way correctly and i cant figure out why, but overall is was fairly simple to do. the worst part was probably the bellhousing. otherwise all the electrical plugs (besides the injectors) are unique and fairly obvious where they go. but the intake has to be pulled when removing the engine because you cant get to teh injector plugs otherwise. so...for 150, if hes any good, have him do it.

i paid 1200 for a recently rebuilt engine and did the swap myself so, 600 into it total sounds alright to me.

89YOTA P/U · « **Reply #5 on:** Nov 28, 2008, 04:54:28 PM »

Get rid of the 3.0 its a garbage motor swap a chevrolet 4.3 or do somthing diffrent and try putting in the 5VZFE

Birfailed · « **Reply #6 on:** Nov 30, 2008, 10:24:45 AM »

The 3.0s suck, really? How odd.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #7 on:** Nov 30, 2008, 11:17:22 AM »

If you trust him, pay the man!

Its not really that hard to do, but if I had the opportunity to have someone else do it for 150, I'd jump on it

$450 for a running 3.0 is a good deal

OOPS · « **Reply #8 on:** Nov 30, 2008, 05:36:07 PM »

Quote from: 89YOTA P/U on Nov 28, 2008, 04:54:28 PM

Get rid of the 3.0 its a garbage motor swap a chevrolet 4.3 or do somthing diffrent and try putting in the 5VZFE

In your opinion please tell us what is wrong with the 3.0 and how long you have had one. I have been running one for over thirteen years and have yet to have a problem with it. Yes they are not the fastest thing, but neither is a 22r. Yes there were HG problems with them, I had mine done right after I got it thirteen years ago and have not had a problem since. They are a bit harder to work on, but you learn to adapt.

What kind of problems did you have with the one you owned. If you tell me you have not had one then it is hearsay which to me means it is the byproduct of hay which comes out the back ends of male cows which are Bulls.

Mavericks · « **Reply #9 on:** Nov 30, 2008, 09:10:56 PM »

Ive have a 3.0 in my dd and it has been one of the most reliable tucks I've ever owned. However its not a fast truck by any means! but it suits me fine.

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 01, 2008, 08:59:26 PM »

Quote from: OOPS on Nov 30, 2008, 05:36:07 PM

In your opinion please tell us what is wrong with the 3.0 and how long you have had one. I have been running one for over thirteen years and have yet to have a problem with it. Yes they are not the fastest thing, but neither is a 22r. Yes there were HG problems with them, I had mine done right after I got it thirteen years ago and have not had a problem since. They are a bit harder to work on, but you learn to adapt.

What kind of problems did you have with the one you owned. If you tell me you have not had one then it is hearsay which to me means it is the byproduct of hay which comes out the back ends of male cows which are Bulls.

i couldnt agree more with oops. hes the only other person i see on pirate saying this. i think its a lot to do with "oh those motors suck cause i heard they do" there notorious but i dont think they screw up as much as people say they do. are these motors slow, yes, a bit harder to work on, ya. i have had mine less than oops but im going on over 5 years and its fine. i just deal with it being really slow but im not ever having to wrench on it. the only other thing i have to say is if you can find a 3.4 for really cheap go that route but 450 for another motor that drops in is perfect.

NorCalToy · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 01, 2008, 09:06:29 PM »

my new 3.0 runs sweet, i can pull 70 up the mountain and smoke 35s with stock gears.

its still mreo power than a 22r/e has.

boggerunner · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 01, 2008, 09:42:44 PM »

he is now convinced that it needs a chevy motor/tranny/t-case and axles, and the 38's off the crawler so he can get some 42's for the crawler

Birfailed · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 02, 2008, 06:28:10 PM »

I can't decide on the thing. I wanna work on it but I also wanna take a break from wrenching now that the crawler is done. I think I'll lay off the projects for a while and push the thing in the side yard once the old 3.0 is out

OOPS · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 02, 2008, 07:32:44 PM »

Quote from: Birfailed on Dec 02, 2008, 06:28:10 PM

I can't decide on the thing. I wanna work on it but I also wanna take a break from wrenching now that the crawler is done. I think I'll lay off the projects for a while and push the thing in the side yard once the old 3.0 is out

You know I said the same thing back in 1968 after a two-year build on a street rod and a chopper. Here it is 2008, I still have bloody knuckles, and hands that refuse to come clean unless I hand wash a weeks worth of dishes!!!

89YOTA P/U · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 03, 2008, 02:20:53 PM »

the 3.0 is notoriuos for blowing head gaskets its because the drivers side rear water jacket and passenger side front water jacket are to close to the cylinder wall which causes them to blow so often my buddy has a 22r that would smoke any 3.0

blackSR5 · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 03, 2008, 02:31:50 PM »

Dude I had one 89 V-6 and a 93 V-6 and they both had value problems. I would say stay as far away from them as you can. I had a buddy with a 22re that he built for the same price as...fixing a v-6 or swapping a v-6...and it blew my V-6 with intake heades and exhust before I had any problems with them. You would be better off with the 22re for the price or the 4.3 out of a s-10 or something!!! Eather way STAY AWAY from a V-6!!!!

89YOTA P/U · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 03, 2008, 05:43:16 PM »

thats what i said black thanks

Birfailed · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 04, 2008, 09:49:13 AM »

I got the old motor out now. Next to come is the tranny and t-case. I got this idea of finding a complete 3/4 ton chevy pickup like a late 70's and swapping all the drivetrain on the Runner. I got a nice 4 bolt main 350 sitting in my garage and if I run that I wanna take out all the toy drivetrain. Run a 44 and 14 bolt, leaf sprung all the way around for simplicity, do a small body lift for clearance, install a 350/th350/205 or 208, cut down the chevy driveshafts to length. Run like 4.5 inches of backspacing with bigger fender flares and it just might be legal. I'm not a big fan of the 3.0 after having to pull one. And all this IFS garbage needs to go. I'll vut and hack away the inner fender flares so I got room to work. Mount all the bs on the firewall.

NorCalToy · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 04, 2008, 06:32:07 PM »

Quote from: Birfailed on Dec 04, 2008, 09:49:13 AM

I got the old motor out now. Next to come is the tranny and t-case. I got this idea of finding a complete 3/4 ton chevy pickup like a late 70's and swapping all the drivetrain on the Runner. I got a nice 4 bolt main 350 sitting in my garage and if I run that I wanna take out all the toy drivetrain. Run a 44 and 14 bolt, leaf sprung all the way around for simplicity, do a small body lift for clearance, install a 350/th350/205 or 208, cut down the chevy driveshafts to length. Run like 4.5 inches of backspacing with bigger fender flares and it just might be legal. I'm not a big fan of the 3.0 after having to pull one. And all this IFS garbage needs to go. I'll vut and hack away the inner fender flares so I got room to work. Mount all the bs on the firewall.

id like to see pics once you sits the fullwidths under it. i have been wondering if it could be legal if you ran a highBS;d rim...

EDIT: hers a 3rd gen on fullwidths and 42 with Hummer H2 rims i beleive

NorCalToy · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 04, 2008, 06:37:19 PM »

Mavericks · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 04, 2008, 10:18:21 PM »

That is awesome!!

Birfailed · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 10:28:03 AM »

Nice, looks like that one has a 60, I'll end up doing a 44 since it's cheaper and this rig wont see any rocks

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