Author Topic: No Back Brakes (Read 3034 times)

porkchop · « **on:** Oct 26, 2008, 01:49:53 PM »

Ok went to windrock this weekend and a boy in our group was running a sami with all toyota under it. He did not have no back brakes on his rig he had some kinda spacer that the wheel seal set in and he was able to do away with all his brake junk on the axle. DO any you guys know what kinda spacer that is or who sells it? He bought the rig that way and did not know much about it. It is a a real slick look to me and I am going to try to do the same to mine if I can get more info on it. I am looking threw my pics trying to see if i got one of it.

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 07:51:13 PM »

Unless he had the transfer case disc brake setup, then your playing with fire. I wouldn't run a rig without brakes at all four corners!

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 08:30:53 PM »

dang we got a run on stupid this week or what?

first the guy wanting to run full hydro with no draglink

now a truck with half brakes

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 08:55:56 PM »

Yeah, just like the guy selling the 22rte motor for $1500 and it has over 150,000 miles on it!

I really think the bus from Stupid Town stopped by!!

OOPS · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 08:57:58 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Oct 26, 2008, 08:30:53 PM

first the guy wanting to run full hydro with no draglink

I run full hydro and it does not have a DL, what do you need a DL on full hydro, you do not have a steering box. ? ??

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 09:25:35 PM »

Quote from: OOPS on Oct 26, 2008, 08:57:58 PM

I run full hydro and it does not have a DL, what do you need a DL on full hydro, you do not have a steering box. ? ??

x2

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 09:33:56 PM »

What's wrong with no back brakes? You can do sweet ass burnouts without 'em.

Hyena · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 09:50:08 PM »

Quote from: OOPS on Oct 26, 2008, 08:57:58 PM

I run full hydro and it does not have a DL, what do you need a DL on full hydro, you do not have a steering box. ? ??

he ment hydro assist with no drag link.

Hyena · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 09:51:58 PM »

i know a guy with sami buggy and rear toyota axle. he doesn't have rear brakes either. but it still stops on a dime. he competes with it too.

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 26, 2008, 11:26:30 PM »

I'm sure he can stop on a dime fine, but I bet he's screwed if he has to back down a steep hill...

porkchop · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 27, 2008, 03:13:22 AM »

Quote from: Hyena on Oct 26, 2008, 09:51:58 PM

i know a guy with sami buggy and rear Toyota axle. he doesn't have rear brakes either. but it still stops on a dime. he competes with it too.

thanks Hyena that is what kinda setup I am talking about, as far as everyone like cheesehead and glyn I was just asking about brakes not starting no

so maybe you need to park that stupid bus at your house thanks! and by the way I was not asking if you thought it was safe or not your idea of safe and mine might be a lil diffrent so next time think before you start typing stupid stuff

muddytaco · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 30, 2008, 10:13:55 PM »

its gettin hostile in here, i put full disc brakes, mounts, calipers, rotors, and all for 70 bucks on the rear of my truck on my 9inch and put a line loc on the front for 20 so i dont see any reason for not having brakes, pros really outway the cons on that

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 30, 2008, 10:24:47 PM »

I lost the rear brake pressure on my 4Runner once, didn't realize it until I got stuck climbing rock strewn hill. I put it in reverse (auto) and started backing a bit to adjust and was unable to stop for almost the entire hill. My fronts were completely locked due to the lack of weight and the rears failed. I'm not going to say you are stupid for not wanting rear brakes but for me I would not advise it.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 31, 2008, 03:41:44 PM »

Quote from: porkchop on Oct 27, 2008, 03:13:22 AM

thanks Hyena that is what kinda setup I am talking about, as far as everyone like cheesehead and glen I was just asking about brakes not starting no so maybe you need to park that stupid bus at your house thanks! and by the way I was not asking if you thought it was safe or not your idea of safe and mine might be a lil diffrent so next time think before you start typing stupid stuff

this is why state governments put laws in place to restrict "modifying" a truck because at some point somebody tried to drive that chevy S10 with 36 inches of lift
or the guy that wants to run dual wheels on the front of his big rig

porkchop, i apologize for bringing 'stupid' into this, but what reason can you give to run no brakes on the rear of a 4x4??

LOL @ IFS · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 31, 2008, 07:55:16 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Oct 31, 2008, 03:41:44 PM

what reason can you give to run no brakes on the rear of a 4x4??

Front brakes brake the rear tires through the daggum driveline, just like my Massey Furgeson, tell you whut!

dieselsmoke · « **Reply #15 on:** Nov 01, 2008, 05:21:23 PM »

That should be just like the backing plate eliminators for the front, just cut up your backing plates and trim them down to the size of the bearing retainer and bolt it up. If your not going to run the rear brakes then you don't need the backing plates and thats the only thing between the housing ant the bearing retainer. I'm going with the 4 wheel disc with allpro's t case park brake

Tallchevy · « **Reply #16 on:** Nov 01, 2008, 06:10:23 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Oct 31, 2008, 03:41:44 PM

what reason can you give to run no brakes on the rear of a 4x4??

X2 or any vehicle.

Quote from: LOL @ IFS on Oct 31, 2008, 07:55:16 PM

Front brakes brake the rear tires through the daggum driveline, just like my Massey Furgeson, tell you whut!

Your Massey Ferguson will never do freeway speeds.

porkchop · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 01, 2008, 06:34:53 PM »

Quote from: Tallchevy on Nov 01, 2008, 06:10:23 PM

X2 or any vehicle.
Your Massey Ferguson will never do freeway speeds.

my rig only sees the pavment from the trailor behind my tow rig

porkchop · « **Reply #18 on:** Nov 01, 2008, 06:46:06 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Oct 31, 2008, 03:41:44 PM

this is why state governments put laws in place to restrict "modifying" a truck because at some point somebody tried to drive that chevy S10 with 36 inches of lift
or the guy that wants to run dual wheels on the front of his big rig

porkchop, i apologize for bringing 'stupid' into this, but what reason can you give to run no brakes on the rear of a 4x4??

Glyn it is all good man no biggy hell man relax..lol

reason #1 trail rig only never on road
reason #2 it is a very clean and neat look
reason #3 my drum brakes suck ,and cant swing $ to go disc
reason #4 planning on upgrading to big calipers and vented rotors on front
reason #5 THE MAIN REASON It is my rig and I want to

I know you guys are trying to help me and all and I appreciate it but front brakes will be just fine for me not having them on back does not bother me a bit.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 01, 2008, 07:31:42 PM »

Quote from: porkchop on Nov 01, 2008, 06:46:06 PM

Glen it is all good man no biggy hell man relax..lol

reason #1 trail rig only never on road
reason #2 it is a very clean and neat look
reason #3 my drum brakes suck ,and cant swing $ to go disc
reason #4 planning on upgrading to big calipers and vented rotors on front
reason #5 THE MAIN REASON It is my rig and I want to

I know you guys are trying to help me and all and I appreciate it but front brakes will be just fine for me not having them on back does not bother me a bit.

just looking out for you and anyone else that might read this later and do it to a rig thats driven on the road

Redbeard3261 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 09, 2009, 04:21:41 AM »

does anyone know a way to bypass load valve mounted on rear frame to run straight to brakes?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #21 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:10:33 AM »

Quote from: Redbeard3261 on May 09, 2009, 04:21:41 AM

does anyone know a way to bypass load valve mounted on rear frame to run straight to brakes?

Yup.. Unscrew the steel line out of the prop valve that comes from the master, take the steel line that feeds the stock rubber line off and put the line from the master together and you just bypassed the valve.

You'll still need to either plug of cut, flatten and fold a bit of the other line that goes from the valve back to the front right corner but that's not a biggy.

As for taking the brakes off of an axle I guess no one ever busts an axle or u-joint in that part of the back woods... Glad you live far far away from me, although I would laugh when you cousin dating ass careened down a hill with no brakes and busted driveline parts.

Redbeard3261 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:46:14 PM »

Thanks! I wasn't 100% for sure but I will do that cause mine is leaking out the bottom.

Gittinit · « **Reply #23 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:41:16 PM »

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on May 09, 2009, 10:10:33 AM

Yup.. Unscrew the steel line out of the prop valve that comes from the master, take the steel line that feeds the stock rubber line off and put the line from the master together and you just bypassed the valve.

You'll still need to either plug of cut, flatten and fold a bit of the other line that goes from the valve back to the front right corner but that's not a biggy.

As for taking the brakes off of an axle I guess no one ever busts an axle or u-joint in that part of the back woods... Glad you live far far away from me, although I would laugh when you cousin dating ass careened down a hill with no brakes and busted driveline parts.

But shes perdy, and ya oughts ta sees whut shee duz when she takz her teef out!

YUP!

Sorry thats just too funny to pass up!

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