HELP ME!

Started by Fireimp141, August 13, 2004, 09:15:01 PM

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Fireimp141

I got an 86 toyota 4runner, STOCK! soon though, i for sure have these

4" Superlift Suspension
3" Body Lift
15X10 Rockcrawler rims
35X12.5-15 TSL super swampers, Baja Claw, or Aurora RT/02 tires

what i want...

Warn from bumper and 8000LB winch
Birfield elimnator
5.29 gears in both thirds<-getting first cause i need power :-/
new headers, exaust, cats, cams, pipes...

thats all i got... i dont need front axel swap, or dana 60's or any of that :pokinit:, cause im not going crawlin, too much :pokinit: breaks for my poor ass. so im just wondering what else i should get, do i need air lockers? or just a locked diff? what else? i need suggestions!!

(im not gonna post pics as of now, cause its embarrising! ill have lifted and tires soon)

Thanx for the help,
Jareth
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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5spd

What you wont need is a birf. eliminator unit since you are IFS, I just save you $700, so send me 50% ASAP!!
Air lockers would be nice but $$$. If its just a basic run arounder for you I would get the 529s or 488s with  detroit full locker in the rear and a true trac up front, if you have lots of snow then I would go with tru tracs in both ends, that way you wont be always sliding off to one side when you hit the gas.
All of these items you will find under for sale posts here and on the pirate4x4 site, for cheap.

Fireimp141

O ok, didnt know bout the birf thanx, and its going to be a basic everyday driver, with alot of weekend mudding, its texas so u dont have to worry bout snow  ;)
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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SWAMPER

#3
I would suggest you drop the body lift and just pump up the Torsion bars and/or Saw some fenders off...get heavy duty Torsion bars,   if you dont have manual hubs....get them the lift will put more stress on the hubs...I would try and get the E-locker for the rear...cheaper than the ARB'S and plus the cool factor...I would do 4:88's cause their stronger...oh oh dont get the warn bumper if you want to save money...just make your own or buy a used one.......thats all I can think of  :headscratch:





Oh Im From TX too :thumbsup:
1985 Toyota Pick/Up longbed...bobbed 15",  lifted 5", 36's.....http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=36992.0

brainlessfool

Quote from: LILSWAMPER on August 16, 2004, 04:59:08 PM
Oh Im From TX too :thumbsup:




   awwww lilswampy we try to keep that kinda thing       quiet   :psss:
A good day working, that's just sick :reg:

SWAMPER

1985 Toyota Pick/Up longbed...bobbed 15",  lifted 5", 36's.....http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=36992.0

Skinny_Pedal

actually if u have locking hubs, it doesnt put as much stress on the suspension. its auto hubs that do that when the torsion bars are cranked. go with hd torsion bars either way though
Im an OG

SWAMPER

Sorry I meant the same thing you just said...I just forgot to put the coma  :smack:
1985 Toyota Pick/Up longbed...bobbed 15",  lifted 5", 36's.....http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=36992.0

Fireimp141

How much these HD torsion bars gonna run? and are they hard to put in? and where at in texas?
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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Fireimp141

And im pretty sure i have manual hubs, they come standard in 86 toyota 4runner sr-5's right?
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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Skinny_Pedal

well if they are auto, they will say right outside  TOYOTA AUTOMATIC LOCKING HUBS. manual hubs say AISIN  on them and have a dial u spin to lock and unlock them. hd torsion bars run about $150.  www.swayaway.com carries them. there not hard real hard to put in. just requires a little strength!
Im an OG

Fireimp141

Ya everytime i go offroading i gotta get out and turn the hubs :-/ pain in the butt, but i guess they are better. And will i be able to crank up my torsion bars i got now? or would tht be unsafe, cause ineed like 2-3 inches lift offa it so i can use my tires.
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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SWAMPER

You can also get heavy duty torsion bars at downey offroad...its not that bad to crank up the bars youll have a bit of a rougher ride and as long as you dont drive like a bat out of hell youll be fine...and yes you can crank up the TB's that you have on right now but its always better do use HD ones if youre going to crank em up a bit....I am not really sure how much you can crank em up I currently have em cranked up 1" :thumbs:





Oh Im in San Antonio :beerchug:
1985 Toyota Pick/Up longbed...bobbed 15",  lifted 5", 36's.....http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=36992.0

Fireimp141

Well its just that im going to need more lift than that :/ so maybe ill just go with body lift, unless its unsafe or anything.   :dunno:  and im here in dallas so anytime ure passing through send me an email or something!  :beerchug:
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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Skinny_Pedal

u can get 1.5" tops out of the torsion bars. if iwere u i would go with the hd ones. go with a 1" body lift from www.sky-manufacturing.com
Im an OG

Prismo

I have a 2" body lift on my 90 although I am not a great fan of them. I was able to clear 34" tires with that & a rancho/downey 3" suspension lift & larger torsion bars. You probably have to cut the fenders still & either beat or cut & graft the rear of the wheel well with 35's. The 34's rubbed at full turn in the wheel well with this set up.
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Fireimp141

OK! after about 2 hours of  :psss:, i decided... for now im going to get HD torsion bars, cranked, 2" shackles and maybe blocks, new shocks and 33X12.5's since i wont be doing that much flex. Later on im going for SAS with marlin kit, wagoneer rear springs with 2" blocks, 5.29 gears with 35X12.5 tires. Thanx alot for the help 86runner!! :beerchug:  i appriciate it! also have like $700 extra, :twocents: so taking ideas on what to do next!
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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SWAMPER

You could give me to me  :eyebrow:



Well glad you got your dilema solved.  I had a sister live up in Dallas so I used to frequent it...but now I go like once a year or so...but Ill e-mail ya if I swing by  :beerchug:
1985 Toyota Pick/Up longbed...bobbed 15",  lifted 5", 36's.....http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=36992.0

Fireimp141

haha , nt  ;) anyways ya, that would be cool, and most likely soon im getting a job at a local custom 4x4 shop, so my rig will be up in no time!  :thumbs: and once again 86runner  :bowdown: thanx!
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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Fireimp141

Oh and by the way, should i get like some knobby aurora rt/02's or just some mtr's since imma be daily driver with fun afterschool or weekend riggin?
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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SWAMPER

Just get some M/T's dude you dont really need the BEEFY stuff right now....I would go with BFG M/T their a good all around tire  :biggthumpup:
1985 Toyota Pick/Up longbed...bobbed 15",  lifted 5", 36's.....http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=36992.0

Fireimp141

But with a lot of tread thats bad for driving, and not so much tread thats good for driving wouldnt it end up wearing out at about the same time?
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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Skinny_Pedal

having a lot of tread doesnt matter. my bfg muds get driven on daily. there not like a bogger but there fine. just go with something simple like the bfg, or maybe a swamper ltb, they cheap
Im an OG

Fireimp141

BUT I WANT KNOBBY lol... the thing is, i can get em cheap ass... like prolly 300-350$ for some 33's all 4... so i mean its not that bad, but ya, i might end up going with mtr's or bfg's  :down: o the delimma!
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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WHITE_TRASH

Dont be a sissy get 33x14 boggers on 10" wheels.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

Skinny_Pedal

if i was rish and dumb, thats what i would do. then i would kick myself in the junk after getting 20000 miles out of them
Im an OG

WHITE_TRASH

Nah you could get probobly 30k out of them if you know what your doing. 
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

Fireimp141

but, what sized spacers will i have to get to have 14 inch tires? since im pretty sure ill have some rub!  ;) also 86runner can u post some pics of where ure torsion bar bolt is that u crank  8) ... i got lost under all that ifs!  :smack: and also with 14 inch tires will i have to get flares? that would be poo!  :drool:
86 Toyota 4runner, 33X12.5-15 Aurora RT/02's on Series 97 15X10 rock crawlers, 3" performance body lift, Rancho RS5000's... Soon to be Marlin 1200 Clutch, tube bumper front and rear, nerf bars and roof rack... future plans include SAS 5.29's detroits!

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WHITE_TRASH

No spacers, just a sawzall.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

4DEES

yup white trash is right, you dont need no spacers. if you ask me, I think you should get 33 inch swamper radials since your gonna be driving it daily, and its an agressive tire too, good for mud/trail/rocks/sand......BFG mud terrains are okay but in the mud they become slicks(even aired down alot)dont get me wrong, its a good tire, but if you plan on hittin' some mud once in a while,I'd go with the swamper.
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