Earth Hour?

Started by abnormaltoy, March 28, 2008, 03:57:10 PM

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BLACKDOG

Quote from: abnormaltoy on March 31, 2008, 08:16:39 AM
Speaking only for myself, that is exactly the reason for countering it.

You are presuming that man has in fact destroyed something. I am among the most advanced in years here...I remember back in the olden days (1976) there was a great hew and cry that we were entering a new ice age! Why? Because of CO2 output...which is the exact reason they give for "global warming"...One thing the left NEVER relies on is...logic.

The Earth is constantly warming and cooling...and has been for millennia. Most of this is associated with the Earth's relationship with the Sun. Another thing that's wrong with the left's assumptions is...who can say that warmer is bad? Great famines and plagues are associated with a cooler Earth...the Black Plague and the Irish famines come to mind. What happens to water when it's warmer? Who is to say that a little warming won't change some of the weather patterns and bring more rain to areas that are now desert? At one time the whole Middle East was lush and green...ever hear of the Garden of Eden?

The main thing that chaps my ass is, I see this as a huge power grab. A way for someone to tell me what I can eat, what I can drive, where I can live. All of the proposed "solutions" are nothing but wealth transfers...mainly from the US and Europe to undeveloped countries. Another thing these solutions do is exempt two of the largest and fastest growing economies, India and China, from adhering to these rules. I have long held that the most potent agent for change is peer pressure. The left uses this to its advantage and has for sometime. One of the best ways to change society is to brainwash the children...does anyone remember a cartoon series "Captain Planet"? This seemingly innocuous Saturday morning show taught or at least planted the seed, that industry was bad, profit was evil and that the only way one can profit is at another's or the planet's expense.


:werd:  and well said!! :clap:


Not to mention, their evidence is quickly dwindling.  Check some temp averages for different areas, you'll find that many areas are experiencing colder weather than 5 years ago, or even 10.  I believe a Russian research station in Siberia posted that just recently (past few years) they experienced their second coldest temperature in recorded history. 
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kneedownnate

We got more snow this year than we've had in a long time.  I'm sure my coworkers are tired of hearing it, but my favorite line every time it snowed was "damn this global warming!"  :yupyup:
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Rocksurfer

They'll find a way to spin that into part of global warming they always do, I can already here it now it'll go something like, This is proof that global warming is creating change all over the place, the weather is going crazy.
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BLACKDOG

Quote from: kneedownnate on March 31, 2008, 08:05:36 PM
We got more snow this year than we've had in a long time.  I'm sure my coworkers are tired of hearing it, but my favorite line every time it snowed was "damn this global warming!"  :yupyup:

:yesnod:

I saw our department chaplain at our admin building one day, and asked him how he was doing.  He said "Great, I'm just waiting for Al Gore to come shovel his global warming off my driveway!"  :hahaha: 
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

abnormaltoy

Quote from: BLACKDOG on March 31, 2008, 07:11:09 PM
Not to mention, their evidence is quickly dwindling.  Check some temp averages for different areas, you'll find that many areas are experiencing colder weather than 5 years ago, or even 10.  I believe a Russian research station in Siberia posted that just recently (past few years) they experienced their second coldest temperature in recorded history. 

I have seen reports lately, that the average temps have actually been lower since the peak in '99...wouldn't surprise me in the least if this coincided exactly with the 17 year solar cycle. I'm not cynical...I just don't trust the politics of panic.
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abnormaltoy

Quote from: BLACKDOG on March 31, 2008, 08:19:51 PM
:yesnod:

I saw our department chaplain at our admin building one day, and asked him how he was doing.  He said "Great, I'm just waiting for Al Gore to come shovel his global warming off my driveway!"  :hahaha: 

I hope he doesn't hold his breath until then.

Isn't there a huge chunk of the upper midwest that's freaking shut down 'cause of winter weather?
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I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
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Lady Di

Quote from: abnormaltoy on March 31, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
I have seen reports lately, that the average temps have actually been lower since the peak in '99...wouldn't surprise me in the least if this coincided exactly with the 17 year solar cycle. I'm not cynical...I just don't trust the politics of panic.

:werd:

I have heard that while the chicken littlests, as I like to call them, are screaming about the melting glaciers, there are, in other parts of the world, glaciers that are increasing as well.
You never hear about that.
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abnormaltoy

Quote from: MrsWillyMammoth on April 01, 2008, 12:55:39 PM
:werd:

I have heard that while the chicken littlests, as I like to call them, are screaming about the melting glaciers, there are, in other parts of the world, glaciers that are increasing as well.
You never hear about that.

I know, where was it...I heard that the ice shelves were actually growing...what's it called again? ANTFREAKINGARCTICA! 
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Lady Di

Life is like a bowl of beer flavored chocolate covered dog turds.. it makes no sense. :pokinit:

Where is the Mammoth?

How the Mammoth came to be

Number Two :pokinit:

abnormaltoy

"First local Earth Hour doesn't dim backers' hopes"

"That followed a similar pattern seen a week earlier on March 22, when average hourly megawatt demand was 1,362 from 7-8 p.m., 1,331 from 8-9 p.m. and 1,285 from 9-10 p.m., he said."

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/local/81341.php

What gets me, is I just found out Pima County apparently spent some money on this...they'll be hearing from me. Especially since Arizona is experiencing some financial difficulties right now.
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

JanMarie13

How the hell do you spend money on planning to turn lights off for an hour!!  :doh:   Good lord what a bunch of dimwit activists  :shake:
RIP Kyle, we love and miss you man.  :smooch:
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thanks for the smooch I miss you too !  :yesnod:

abnormaltoy

Quote from: MrsPAtaco13 on April 01, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
How the hell do you spend money on planning to turn lights off for an hour!!  :doh:   Good lord what a bunch of dimwit activists  :shake:

I guarantee nobody is in that office just 'cause they wanna be there...they're getting paid. Seeing that it's a government employee...grossly over paid.
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Rocksurfer

Then they paid them to stay over at time and a half just to turn off the lights.
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