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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #720 on: Oct 31, 2004, 08:48:50 PM »
That is a twin piston A/C compressor off of a 1973 Chrysler Newport boat car. That car has got to be the biggest piece of :censored: I've ever seen in my life. Just what the hell was wrong with America back then? It's beyond me and I will never understand boat cars no matter how long I live..

..but anyways, this is the dual piston York compressor I was talking about in a different post, but actually its not a York, I dont think so, I dont know what it is, but this is the compressor that Marlin has experience with, and his story is that his friend had one of these on his 22RE and with just a small 2gal air tank, Marlin would be airing up his 35s and the compressor would actually cycle on and off WHILE airing up 35s. That's amzing, especially with just a 2gal air tank. Marlin says this compressor kicks some serious butt and we believe that it can be reved higher than the york without the fear of pumping oil into the on board air system.

So now I've got my plans started for some on board air, but Im a bit :nerv: about finding a serpentin clutch pulley for this chrysler pump, so I might have to just keep the v-groove pully and somehow build a new crank pulley on my 3RZ that has a middle row with a V-belt groove.

Oh, and just what did these two air compressors and all the other stuff cost all together? Just over 50 bills :booya:


In other news, today I also ripped the Electric locker diff outta the wasted Taco rear end I got, and put it in a bucket, and its ready to be torn down and rebuild with some 4.88s. I hope to get that happening this week.

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #721 on: Nov 01, 2004, 07:43:39 AM »
Wow, good deal Mike. That compressor is pretty cool. Did you find some V6 gears to replace the ones in that 3rd?
Keep up the work, we're gonna have to do some wheelin very soon. I'll be working on my rig today. It quit running the other day as I pulled into the driveway. I've got a short somewhere, it keeps blowing the fuel pump fuse.
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #722 on: Nov 01, 2004, 11:36:45 AM »
Hey FB-

Yeah it looks like I am just gonna set it up with a new 4.88 gear set and bearings. But I do need to find a used 4.88 front diff as I dont want to spend $$ on 4.88 gears for the front, since my front is 4cyl right now and I plan on going High pinion if I win the lottery.

We are still waiting for our large order of shocks to come in, and then Im gonna send some your way. I'll give you a call before to make sure which ones ya want :thumbs:

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #723 on: Nov 01, 2004, 06:00:39 PM »
It's in the tank. I started tracing wiring today and checking it with an ohm meter There's a short between the pump and the plug behind the dash. I tried to figure out where, and finaly gave up and just ran a new wire. Works good now. Then I put on the VSS and got it wired and fired it up and now the rpm's surge when you give it hard throttle. So tomorrow i'll go after it again and see if I can figure out whats going on.
Anyway, your rig is looking really good, keep up the good work.

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #724 on: Nov 02, 2004, 08:50:45 AM »
Ok guys, I just made an appoitment for the Smog Ref for Nov 1st, thats next Monday, at 3:10pm. So right after class I will drive out of town and head south to Visalia.

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #725 on: Nov 02, 2004, 09:04:02 AM »
Did your truck pass smog  :driving:
or is it a  :smack:
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #726 on: Nov 02, 2004, 02:33:15 PM »
Hey Mike :biggthumpup:

Love your rig man, I just spent 2 hrs reading each and every post. :bowdown:

So did it pass?  :confused: ???


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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #727 on: Nov 02, 2004, 05:42:10 PM »
at one time I had one of those twin piston compressors adn also havd a serpentine clutch from a york. I pulled the chrysler clutch and put on the serpentine clutch from the york and it seeemed to fit as far as the taper was. I never finished the swap as I sold the motor that had the serpentine pulleys. I do recall it didnt seem like it was going to need much work to make the magnetics work. I would sugest puling a cluych off of another york adn seein  what it was like.

Also does that motor have a 5 or 6 groove pulleys or what ever. I have (or at least had :))the part numbers from kenworth  for serpentine pulleys that work on gm stuff. Just let me know and I will look.

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #728 on: Nov 02, 2004, 06:01:56 PM »
camokid - 5 or 6 groove pulley.... are you talking about the crank pulley on the Newport's V8 ??

Hey guys, actually I could NOT make it to my smog appoitment because of a mix up I made with ordering the new plug wires from Nology, and I didnt want to make the 45min trip over there just to fail the visiual on the old wires I've got that are in horrible shape.

But good news, Nology overnighted the new wires and I got 'em today and they installed perfectly! I haven't driven it much to form an opinion yet, but I can definately tell a low to mid range improvement, and it seems like it takes less gas to get up to coasting speed which is awesome.

I will be gone for about an hour, then I will return and post some pics.

I will check em out on the freeway and reply back with my results.

I almost forgot, I rescheduled my appoitment to this Wednesday, tomorrow, at 3:10pm. Same time, same place, just moved it to tomorrow.

So I will be at COS in Visilia tomorrow at 3pm in parking lot #2 if anyone goes to school there and sees this and wants to check out my project-

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #729 on: Nov 02, 2004, 06:40:00 PM »
BigMike,

Are you familiar with a "power didtribution box" that is located by the battery...has a bunch of relays.  I found out tonight that I need one to complete my wiring harness.  I put out a salvage yard parts search tonight.  The loaner truck was picked up when I got home and I'm not going to work tomorrow till I can figure out what to do for transportation.  I think that I need this part(s) desperately.  Thanks :hammerhead:
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #730 on: Nov 02, 2004, 08:43:49 PM »
Are you familiar with a "power didtribution box" that is located by the battery...has a bunch of relays.
That's gotta be the Fuse Box as my fuse box had a positive terminal wire that was pretty short, so the fuse box must sit very close to the battery on the T100. I've still never ever seen a T100 3RZFE engine bay and what it looks like, as my engine was already pulled out before I got there to pick it up. So I can only guess about where things went..

If it is the fuse box, then, on my '95 engine, it was its own seperate harness that plugged directly into the alternator, starter, and the "Integration Relay" in the fuse box under the dash on the drivers side..

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I will be gone for about an hour, then I will return and post some pics.
Well took a bit longer than expected, but let me say now that since Ive gotten some more time behind the wheel I have a noticable power difference anywhere when under about 60% throttle. Once I put my foot really into it, I cant really tell if its faster or pulls harder or not, its kind'a difficult with the terriable gearing ive got right now, but definately I notice a difference in the lower and mid range, and also the pick-up with partial throttle has improved. I am glad I waited for these before heading out to the ref..

Here's the only pic I've got, its not really good but you get the idea.

Also, now that the lower range power has improved, Im thinking about just leaving the 33s on for smog. I was going to swap back on the 30s which would put my engine in a slightly higher rpm range while on the smog dyno which would give it less of a load and burn cleaner. But seriously, I think im worring too much. This engine is going to be so darn clean I can feel it.

And Im sure it wont be any problem to have 33s on a dyno. It's not like tires are "smog illeagle" :yupyup:

Oh, one more thing, today Marlin found the old Twin-V compressor he had at the shop, and we tore it apart. It had thrown a rod so we didnt care about it, so we opened it up. Man its one kick ass compressor. It even has its own cresent oil pump on it which is AMAZING. Yorks do not have any oil pumps, so this pump is serious.
For the tech nerds, the Bore and Stroke is Bore: 2.3125 (2-5/16") and the Stroke: 1.25". So it's got a smaller stroke than a york, but the bore is humongeous! and then times 2 cylinders!
This compressor is gonna kick some serious butt!
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #731 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:16:34 AM »
OK mike.....

          check the math...



   bore:                                        2.3125 in.
   pie:                                       X 3.14
   area of bore:                          = 7.20 sq. in.
   stroke:                                   X 1.25 in.
   volume of 1 cyl:                      = 9.07 cubic in.
   # of cyl:                                 X 2.
   volume of both cyl:                = 18.14 cubic in.
   RPM of pump's crank:         X   1500.0
   cubic in. @ 1500 RPM:       =27,210.0
                                            ------------------
   cubic inches in a cubic foot:     1728.0
                                                  15.74 CFM @1500 rpm !!!!!!!


disclamer: this measurement is an aproximation due to the fact that this pump is a twin V style and one rotation of the crank is not two full cylinders of volume ..... if this pump was an in-line 2 cylinder pump and both pistons moved directly parallel to each other and  both pistons were conected to the same crank jounal (not oposite sides)

                [  ]  [  ]  <- pistons
                  !     !    <- conecting rods
          []     ____
          []__/        \__  <-crank
          []
          []  <-pully

          ^  sad illistration ^

yeah yeah yeah

bla bla



                     IT"S AN APROXIMATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!


                 14cfm  would be substanial to most all other compressors



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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #732 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:25:32 AM »
.................thats nice and all, but I dont know the compression ratio on the pump, so how can we figure its rated output per time  :headscratch: :confused:
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #733 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:33:34 AM »
since TURBO's in here posting, I thought I would post a pic of him working on his rig this past weekend...... Get Flamn Toy ready for Panamint TURBO!!!
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #734 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:37:31 AM »
this would be no load volume flow rate i din't even calculate psi .... i'll leave the psyics up to you mike
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« Reply #735 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:40:34 AM »
yeah that's the best way i figure to get rid of death wable, take off the front wheels
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« Reply #736 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:43:22 AM »
oh yeah
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #737 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:47:43 AM »
oh man :smack:

SERIOUSLY GET SLOWPOKE BACK ON THE TRAILS DUDE!!!!!!

ps. That yellow truck is called "Slow poke" and it used to move and it used to be 498:1 Crawl Range :o but now it's undergoing a massive project and TURBO isn't even working on it :down: Instead he is going bowling and playing Halo :rivers:

So when was that picture taken? 5 years ago? I like the '8' in your rear window. It goes well with my '1' :thumbs:
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« Reply #738 on: Nov 03, 2004, 12:51:16 AM »
i would work on it but i dont like to weld while it's raining and i'm standing in a mud puddle
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« Reply #739 on: Nov 03, 2004, 07:54:34 AM »
Nice knees there Turbo.

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« Reply #740 on: Nov 03, 2004, 02:33:44 PM »
Hay Mike, really like how the truck is coming out.

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« Reply #741 on: Nov 03, 2004, 08:26:13 PM »
Well, Mikey...What did the smog ref say?

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #742 on: Nov 03, 2004, 09:43:02 PM »
i hope this works

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #743 on: Nov 03, 2004, 09:44:10 PM »
Well, Mikey...What did the smog ref say?

Inquiring Minds want to know!!!!!!! :_order:
Well it's a really long story, and I dont really have any time right now,

But basically I failed due to the air filter, I kinda knew I would, I am rescheduled for Friday at 2:10pm, Ive got alot more details to tell ya but I gotta run, and I might not be back until tomorrow afternoon or evening...

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« Reply #744 on: Nov 03, 2004, 10:01:03 PM »
somethings wrong, sometimes i cant post anything, especially pics

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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #745 on: Nov 04, 2004, 05:24:44 AM »
Wow, I guess they really are strict in California...here we pass as long as the sniffer says the emissions are withing spec- regardless of what has been done to the vehicle.  Did you get a chance to get it on the dyno and see what it blows out the pipe?

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« Reply #746 on: Nov 04, 2004, 07:49:17 AM »
Sniffer....Ref? Whats this crazy talk about does that excist only ouside of TX :yupyup:
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #747 on: Nov 04, 2004, 07:54:22 AM »
I'll take a geass at why, no hot air tube?
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #748 on: Nov 04, 2004, 01:13:06 PM »
somethings wrong, sometimes i cant post anything, especially pics
Man I dont know why it's not working for ya..... It works everytime for me.
One thing I have learned is that the attachment limit of 150kb is the total combined total of all attachments attached. For instance, one 50kb file is ok, but if you try to attach four 50kb files at a time, then that's over the limit at 200kb, so it wont work..
But its worked flawless for me with any  jpg, gif, pdf, png, jpeg, or bmp that I've tried to upload......


Well they are so strict because this is an Engine swap, and any engine swap must be certified by a California State referee, which is a special smog station where it takes over an hour to do a complete comprehensive check on the entire engine related systems of the vehicle. These stations are special, ran by the government, and there are only about 40 of them state wide. About one per major area. Like maybe 5 or 10 here in the central valley, 15 or so down south, 15 or so up north, etc.. It's not like a typical smog shop where each city has maybe 50 of them and you can just walk up. The CA referee requires an appointment to be made and they go over every little detail of the entire engine swap to make sure its safe for use on the roads.

So now that I've got some time, here's the story of what happened in full detail.....
About my Smog attempt...... (long story)
So I picked up my gf and then headed out to Visalia around 2:10p on Wednesday. I got there wwaayy early, about 30mins early, but thought I would go check in just so I know where the place is at.

I pulled in and parked and this guy came out to greet me. I said Im a bit early but I just wanted to stop by. He said thats fine and that they could start on it then. So I popped my hood and opened it up.
I saw his eyes immediately gaze over at the air filter, and he said "oooooo I dont think we can use that air filter"
I said "yeah, I was afraid of that, as that is my only concern. The original air filter box was homogenous and would not fit; this is the only filter that I could fit."
He said "well what year is this engine?"
"It's a '95 T100 4cyl"
"Oh, well in that case its ok, you can use that air filter. Any engine before '03 is allowed to have any open element air filter they want"
........and I was really relieved and thought man this is gonna pass easily.

Then he called over another guy to get a 2nd opinion, and that guy was like "nope, this will fail. Can't use any aftermarket air filter unless its CARB approved (Cali. Air Resource Board).
The 1st guy says "Well it's a '95 so he's ok"
"Yeah but its got an air temp sensor right here (points to the sensor)"

The 1st guy was standing on the drivers side of my engine bay so he didnt see the air temp sensor. Apparently the law states that if their are no sensors in the factory air box, then you can run any kind of air filter you wish. But if there is even 1 sensor in the stock air box, then you are screwed and you MUST use the factory air box, or a CARB approved filter, like an expensive K&N kit or something..

Then the 2nd guy asks me, "If you're from Fresno, why are you coming to the Visalia ref?"
And I said "Well the Fresno ref is really picky and I didnt want to go to him, and I heard the Visalia ref is much nicer so I came here"
Then, get this, the 1st guy says "Fresno ref? Well that's me!" And Im thinking HOLY :pokinit:  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :scared: :smack: And he's like "who told you I was picky?"

Man, I felt really bad and I apologized and told him that my friend took his truck to the Fresno ref about a year ago and he failed 4 times.

Then, check this out, both guys started to laugh and they informed me how the Fresno ref used to be Pat. Pat is a 60-something 30 year smog veteran who actually is a godfather of the entire California smog program! They told me that he even wrote some of the laws himself!! :ack: (I think we need to kill that guy) He retired just this summer and the guy standing next to me was the new ref in Fresno. SWEET! :booya:

And this guy is super cool. He even told me some tips about smog and was really really nice.

So I told the guys, "man Im in trouble then because the T100 is a full size truck and the filter box is huge and will never ever fit in this location."
Then the 1st guy tell me a little secret. "We get guys who swap in Vette engines. Well the vette has two air boxes that have long intake piping that place the air boxes in front of the radiator. But since there are sensors in the stock boxes, you cant change 'em. So he has guys take their hood off, have the air boxes stick over the radiator and hanging in front of the grills of their converted car/truck, and since hoods are not required for smog, as long as the stock intake system is fully there and everything is attached, then they pass the ref."

MAN CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GOVERNMENT bull crap?! IM TELLING YA THE SMOG PROGRAM IS A DAMN JOKE AND ITS JUST TO RAISE MONEY AND SO THE GOV CAN HAVE CONTROL OVER US !!!!!!!!! ARRRRGGGGGGGGGG :maddest: :maddest: :maddest: :maddest: :maddest: :maddest: :maddest:

So All I've gotta do is pull my hood off, attach the T100 air box which will rest above the pass. headlight, and then drive it over to the Fresno ref station and he said if everything else passes then its done. :best:

Since I was already in Visalia, they asked me if I wanted to have them run all of the tests since I was already there, it will fail because of the filter, but if everything else is ok then all I would have to do is return with the stock T100 filter box on and they would pass me.
But since you have to retest at the same place you fail, I told them why not just go to Fresno and have the one guy do it for me?
So thats the plan now. I called the ref appointment hot line and made an appointment for tomorrow, Friday, at 2:10pm, here in Fresno. :disturbed: And they took down my mileage, asked me a bunch of questions about the swap, checked a couple of things out under the truck, and he told me that since everything looks so clean that all he will do is just hook up the scanner and run the sniffer test. Should be a quick job. He said that he's seen so many ugly conversions where wires and crap are spliced all over the place and it takes 2 or 3 hours to check everything because it looks shady, but since my job is so clean and looks good, he said he might not even inspect the majority of it as long as the scanner passes.

So that's whats up. Oh, and about the "Sensor Lamp" as the check engine light, he said that's fine, It does NOT have to be orange, any color light is ok just as long as you Label it "Check Engine". So I am going to put some tape on and write down Check Engine and then im set.

Oh and for those who are curious if the Cat is part of an engine swap? It's not. Only if the engine is OBD-II, then you have to use a OBD-II cat. But for instance if I put in a pre-'95 engine, then I can keep the chassis cat on the exhaust and its ok. So if anyone tells you that you have to use the exhaust from the engine you are swapping, if its non-OBD-II, then that's :bull crap: and you can use any cat you want.

Man thats a long story. I feel sorry for you if you just read it! Here, have a :beer: on me! :slap:

If everything else goes well tomorrow afternoon, I'll have it passed and then im done. :biggthumpup:
« Last Edit: Nov 04, 2004, 02:40:02 PM by BigMike »
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Re: BigMike's Big Project
« Reply #749 on: Nov 04, 2004, 01:21:49 PM »
Damn that is long and that ref thing is a bunch of :bull crap: I love Texas! :bud:
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