East Coast Marliners Tellico Trip CANCELED May 10-11 2008

[Mossyrocks]

its because its forrest service land.

Bingo.

Its a hefty fine too.

[porkchop]

100$ a beer  full or empty so that always made it hard to pack them out I would really hate to get charged 1200$ to tote my emptys out . I been there quiet a bit and had rig cooler checked once but had beer on bottom and he did not go though it so no problem. Now on TN side they will go though camp site and cooler if left on ground and they drive though camp ground during the night and keep everything calm but all in all not that bad

[Lady Di]

100$ a beer  full or empty so that always made it hard to pack them out I would really hate to get charged 1200$ to tote my emptys out . I been there quiet a bit and had rig cooler checked once but had beer on bottom and he did not go though it so no problem. Now on TN side they will go though camp site and cooler if left on ground and they drive though camp ground during the night and keep everything calm but all in all not that bad

Not to judge but we never drink and wheel, never drink on the trail, only once we are done for the day.

[Mossyrocks]

Same here, it stays with the tow rig at camp.

[CTENG in KS]

Yeah...mee too...never...ever...ever...ever...ever...ever...

[Lady Di]

and worse yet, if you don't pack em out you are saying you dump your empties on the trail. That is exactly the type of behavior that gets the trails closed
But on the other hand, what if you wanted to do a trail cleanup and were picking up the empties to clean up, they would fine you then too? I would think they could tell the difference between freshly drank empties and trail cleanup empties.

[porkchop]

I always pack out and do trail cleaning dont you guys be getting wrong idea  They never said nothing for us bringing them out on clean up they fade color fast out in sun you can tell

[Lady Di]

I always pack out and do trail cleaning dont you guys be getting wrong idea  They never said nothing for us bringing them out on clean up they fade color fast out in sun you can tell

OK cool, thanks.

[porkchop]

you guys do know some of the best trails is closed this year down there I am thinking lower 2 and slick rock  and a couple more I think

[Mossyrocks]

Yup, Lower 2, peckerwood, slick rock, and the upper loop of 8.

[CTENG in KS]

Aren't some of them temporary closures and will open in the spring?  I thought only one major trail was actually closed for the full year.

[Lady Di]

we'll have to check on that. That is how I had heard it.

[Lady Di]

http://www.tellico4x4.com/tellico-update-trail-closures-dec-2007.html

The Forest Service has announced a winter closure for Tellico from January 1 through March 31 of each year, to take effect January 1, 2008.

Note that as of December 18, all trails (except a section of trail 8 ) are still open. Winter closure on all trails is expected to start on January 1, 2008. Call the Forest Service office at 828-837-5152 for the latest status.

[seth999]

Hey...I'v not really done alot of posting on here but you all seem like a fun group to ride with, I would love to go on one of your trips sometime.

[CTENG in KS]

Come to Tellico with us!

You have a month to get ready, it is a pretty informal deal.

[porkchop]

Yup, Lower 2, peckerwood, slick rock, and the upper loop of 8.

So with those closed you still we have some good riding  gaurdrail , helicopter pad, school bus, upper 2. but slickrock  is a killer ride I wish you guys could hit it. 

[BUBBA]

im really hoping i can get off that wknd

[Lady Di]

im really hoping i can get off that wknd

Well if you want a cabin you better call now to reserve one, if there are any left, there are only 4 or 5 of them and there's a big event starting on Tues.
YOu can always cancel if your plans don't work out.

[porkchop]

just a lil update guys I ended pulling motor and in process of rebuild I should be ready

[Lady Di]

just a lil update guys I ended pulling motor and in process of rebuild I should be ready

Good news!

[CTENG in KS]

You better hurray!

[porkchop]

YEAH  crank and head will be done this week just depends on how long wait on cam  it should not be no problem but it might never run again........lol

[Lady Di]

BAD NEWS FOLKS!

Looks like the trip is going to be canceled (at least we won't be going, you all are free to do what you want)

I spoke to Insane today, his buddies were out there this weekend and a bunch of the really good trails are closed for maintenence till Dec. 2008.
I have to PDF's from USDA below, and I am going to call them to confirm tomorrow, but Insane said lower 2 - a must do - is closed.
Slickrock and Legde - must do's - closed
The only really popular areas open are Guardrail and Helicoptor Pad and they have huge backups because there is nothing else to do.

I just can't see wasting the time and money to build the exo right now, not to mention the cost of fuel and camping to get up there.

Like I said, I'm going to call to comfirm but as you can see by the PDF's below (the last link is the Tellico trail map), and what Insane's buddies said, there is really no doubt that they are not open. Hell, lower 2 was closed off with guard rails.

Bummer, but at least we know now before going all the way up there.

http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/press/tellico_opening_2008.pdf

http://www.sfwda.org/trails/tellico/Opening_Weekend_Flyer20080405.pdf

http://www.tellico4x4.com/images/tellico_map.gif

[porkchop]

Lets go to Harlan  the toyota crawl was this weekend there and it is kick ass! look at lions den on line it rocks and only couple more hours to it from tellico. what you all think?

[porkchop]

you guys do know some of the best trails is closed this year down there I am thinking lower 2 and slick rock  and a couple more I think

I am not one to say I told you so but...........I DID...lol

[Mossyrocks]

Porkchop and I posted the trail closings a week ago.  Did everyone think we were kidding or what?

[Lady Di]

Porkchop and I posted the trail closings a week ago.  Did everyone think we were kidding or what?

I am not one to say I told you so but...........I DID...lol

LOL! Yes you did. I forgot all about that.

Of course I didn't think you were kidding but the only thing on the Tellico 4x4 site is about the winter closings and nothing about that. I had to google 'Tellico Trail Closings' to find those PDF's. That's not right of the Tellico site not to have info on that.

I'm going to cancel the reservations I made at Crawfords, if anyone else is still going to go you will have to contact them yourself.

Sorry guys but fuel is too expensive for frivilous trips anymore.

Guess we'll see you in AR in Sept.

[CTENG in KS]

Well that blows, they weren't all supposed to be closed, some were upposed to reopen I thought.

Sooooo, what is the plan, do we wanna consider alternate locations?  As long as it is an eastern location I can do it on a long weekend.  I am flexible!

[Lady Di]

Unfortunately, at this point we are just going to cancel out all together.

[porkchop]

some of them did reopen but the best ones in my eyes are closed all year. anyone want to go to Harlan