Author Topic: What does it take to push 44s with a 22r? (Read 4262 times)

TXSS · « **on:** Sep 07, 2007, 03:00:15 PM »

I am pretty much starting from scratch on this build up and money is very tight, but I have a set of 1-tons (4:10s for now) and some 44" boggers. Instead of spending the time and money building the toyota axles I would like to slap my 44s under there. My question is how bad is my truck going to hate the 44s if I leave the 22r and either double or triple case it?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #1 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 03:26:49 PM »

get low gears, 4 wheel offroad magazine had a yota with 42.s and dana60's and they ran 7.13 gears

TXSS · « **Reply #2 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 03:34:30 PM »

thats why I am thinking triple cases and not regearing, the 14bolt will only go to 5:38 and I may switch to 2.5 tons down the road

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #3 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 05:55:40 PM »

Gas, lots of gas.

bigarms23 · « **Reply #4 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 06:20:36 PM »

Take your onetons and regear them to 538s maybe586s upgrade axleshafts and maybe do a proprane conversion but that should do it

Hottrod81 · « **Reply #5 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 06:27:32 PM »

An act from God.

Shamb · « **Reply #6 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 06:46:41 PM »

Are you planning on DD'n this truck? it's not going to be very fun.. trust me..

on the trail? its all about gear reduction dude, you don't need a big HP motor to make it up a verticle rock.. just keepin that TQ to the tires and making 'em stick.

Hottrod81 · « **Reply #7 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 07:00:35 PM »

Quote from: Shamb on Sep 07, 2007, 06:46:41 PM

Are you planning on DD'n this truck? it's not going to be very fun.. trust me..

on the trail? its all about gear reduction dude, you don't need a big HP motor to make it up a verticle rock.. just keepin that TQ to the tires and making 'em stick.

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Shamb · « **Reply #8 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 07:57:54 PM »

Btw i'm running 42's and a bone stock 22R... it works perfectly fine on the trail... other than the CARB on steep inline's.

This is of course a trail rig only that see's a top speed of maybe 20mph. I'd imagine if it was stable enough for street driving I could get it up to around 60-65 mph in 4th.

Ramrod · « **Reply #9 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 08:38:44 PM »

it wont take anything but a gas pedal

~tc~ · « **Reply #10 on:** Sep 07, 2007, 08:49:31 PM »

It wasn't real clear - what 1 ton axles do you have? D44's aren't any stronger than Toyota axles, but the width is probably necessary to fit the tires with a reasonable height.

I would suggest keeping the 4.10's in it and drive around in 2.28:1 low range (giving you an effective gearing of 9.35), should do OK on the road if you have to.

TXSS · « **Reply #11 on:** Sep 08, 2007, 07:29:22 AM »

thanks for the replys, I am new to toyotas....my last truck had a 427 big block in it. This is a trailer queen. and it is a D60, 14 bolt

RAZOR · « **Reply #12 on:** Sep 08, 2007, 03:36:12 PM »

Gas Is on the Right! $Beer Chug\'n$

yotee · « **Reply #13 on:** Sep 09, 2007, 10:43:04 AM »

one of the guys in our club has a 22r powered truggy on 44's

it takes dual stock cases and rockwells

TXSS · « **Reply #14 on:** Sep 10, 2007, 07:22:09 AM »

thats what I was wanting to here. How is the rest of the drivetrain holding up?

bigarms23 · « **Reply #15 on:** Sep 10, 2007, 02:39:26 PM »

Save weight and run dana60s 538 gears and dual cases (2.28 fbox and 5.0 in rear box) that the combo my friend is running on his 84 truck

yotee · « **Reply #16 on:** Sep 10, 2007, 04:23:38 PM »

Quote from: TXSS on Sep 10, 2007, 07:22:09 AM

thats what I was wanting to here. How is the rest of the drivetrain holding up?

it holds up fine, the only things he has broken that i know of are a (rockwell side) driveline u joint and a shock.

BigMike · « **Reply #17 on:** Sep 10, 2007, 07:29:47 PM »

A 3RZ powered rig pushing the 22R rig

Quote from: TXSS on Sep 07, 2007, 03:00:15 PM

My question is how bad is my truck going to hate the 44s if I leave the 22r and either double or triple case it?

What are you plans with the use of your rig? Is it your daily driver, or (as it seems to me) are you only curious regarding the strength of the Toyota axles?

TXSS · « **Reply #18 on:** Sep 10, 2007, 08:43:21 PM »

this is just a toy, no street time at all. I just don't want to invest a lot in the toyota axles, mostly because I have the 1-tons setting in the shop. My main concern is just the drivablity of the truck off-road. All I have had were K-5s with 1-tons and big blocks, but I want something more capable in the rocks. I have been considering a 4.3 with a SM465 and 208 to get a decent crawl ratio, but I don't want to spend the money if the 22r and dual cases will work.

bigarms23 · « **Reply #19 on:** Sep 10, 2007, 10:51:15 PM »

yes remember fred williams fron 4wheel and offroad ran an 86 toyota truck with d60s dual cases and 7.17 gearing with detroit lockers

yotee · « **Reply #20 on:** Sep 11, 2007, 06:38:57 PM »

iffn you can match the rockwell gear ratio(6 whatever or 7 whatever) than with the tires all you need are

axle strength
gear ratio(if you can get the axles low enough)
stock duals

this is the setup my non computer buddy uses, with out a hich(sp).

i run dual toy's on a 22re with 38.5sx's and my bud's crawl(side to side crawl) ratio seems to be the same.
his setup is unstopable compared to the guys in our club that run 'cough' dana axles with 42's. now i don't run dana axles(diamond here) but he get's it without the dumbass breakedges.

unless you are worried about your tow rig not doing it's job, i'd say rocks.

i'll try to get my bud (club member) to post up but he used to be a heep guy $That\'s Gay$

fatt_matt · « **Reply #21 on:** Sep 16, 2007, 04:32:19 PM »

won't any axles lower than 5.29 get mauled, tripped, then raped by those tires, crawlin?

TXSS · « **Reply #22 on:** Sep 17, 2007, 07:19:38 AM »

I hear the 5.86 hold up pretty good in D60s and D70s. I had thought about 7:17s but I am worried about the pinion.

bigarms23 · « **Reply #23 on:** Sep 17, 2007, 08:00:36 PM »

On my new 4runner i am building i just put 586gears in the d70s i plan on running I know a few people who are running the same gear set and swear buy them

kiyul4130 · « **Reply #24 on:** Sep 27, 2007, 07:19:47 PM »

Quote from: TXSS on Sep 07, 2007, 03:00:15 PM

I am pretty much starting from scratch on this build up and money is very tight, but I have a set of 1-tons (4:10s for now) and some 44" boggers. Instead of spending the time and money building the toyota axles I would like to slap my 44s under there. My question is how bad is my truck going to hate the 44s if I leave the 22r and either double or triple case it?

heres a perfect example. yackers rig gets it. bail on the 14 bolt and get a 70. gear that homeboy to 6.17s and then wheel.

Brandon · « **Reply #25 on:** Oct 03, 2007, 10:42:36 AM »

another 4 cylinders :p

superyota · « **Reply #26 on:** Oct 03, 2007, 11:07:28 AM »

take some friends to help push

yotee · « **Reply #27 on:** Oct 07, 2007, 10:05:03 AM »

Quote from: yotee on Sep 10, 2007, 04:23:38 PM

it holds up fine, the only things he has broken that i know of are a (rockwell side) driveline u joint and a shock.

well now it is a front link and a rear case.

ToYocRawleR · « **Reply #28 on:** Oct 11, 2007, 06:43:53 PM »

60's and 6.17's all the way!

yota_krawler · « **Reply #29 on:** Oct 11, 2007, 07:00:57 PM »

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but I have known people to run 390s i think with a case locked in all the time

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