Topic: Global warming alert

[kiyul4130]

Its only going to get worse.

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[Lady Di]

and nothing we do will stop it.

[germ]

    first scientists have accurately mesred the earths temps. back as far as a hundred thousand years( back to when Antarctica began to freeze ), by using ice cores from Antarctica. <italics added>it is done by measuring the % of different gases in the ice from a given 100year pried and applying them to the gas % records from the past 50 or so years in a computer model.

You are correct in your description of how scientists are attempting to ascertain the earths tempuratures. The problem with it however is based on data that has been gathered (using your timeframe) over the last 50+ years. The problem is that the model becomes inherently unstable the farther you get away from your known data set, especially when your data set is small, which makes your ability to accuratly measure is inaccurate. As an example, if you ask 100 people the same questions, and determine that 75% of them agree with "A", it would be foolhardy to assume that this accuratly represents the opinions of the population of the USA, because your data set is too small to accuratly predict.

I think science has come a long way in being able to get an approximation of what tempuratures may have been like, but I think any scientist who catagorically states "we know" is a fool.

y many scientists believe in global warming is because, how do iceages start it make sens to say they start when there is no ice on earth for a long time and the hole planet is covert in plants (planets remove CO2 for the atmosphere- no green house gases earth cools down and eventually you got anther iceage) maby, but some scientists worked out that it would take hundreds of millons of years for this to happen.
it is much more likely that it is because of the three physical attributes relating the sun and the earth.

While your model is a bit abbreviated, you are essentially correct. Again, this supports my argument that we humans are not responsible, nor can we do a damned thing about global tempuratures. (again, just so I'm clear about it for everyone, I don't argue that the earths tempuratures are increaseing, I argue that we humans are in no way the least bit responsible for it.) Therfore, Abnormaltoy's response and conclusions are, in my opinion, accurate and well informed.

Not only are there companies that are selling “carbon credits”, there is a company that “seeds” the ocean with “iron filings” to feed the plankton (!) and selling “plankton credits” to offset your CO2 output. Then imagine what will happen when followers of this “cult” get into Congress and can start doling out heaping helpings of our tax dollars to fund every cockamamie idea out there…Oh, wait they’re already in Congress

Now, see if we were really smart, instead of just sitting here BS'ing about this, we'd form a LLC, and start doing this ourselves so we could take advantage of the latest "the sky is falling" fad, and make a few bucks off the deal. Then if we were so inclined, we could use that money (or at least some of it) to educate people so they wouldn't fall for this crap again!

By telling us what we can drive, what we can eat and how what we eat can be grown, what kind and how big a house we can have and, by not letting any opposing thoughts be entertained, what we can think...these people can control every aspect of our lives.

Hmmmm sounds like fascism to me......
Erik 

[abnormaltoy [OP]]

I have a very good (IMO) article that relates not only to this current hysteria but cultural manipulation as well.

http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches/complexity/complexity.html

While this a fairly long read, it's dial-up friendly and very informative. I can't recall if I posted this before...if I did, forgive me.

Hmmmm sounds like fascism to me......
Erik 

Fascism, socialism, liberalism...there is no discernible difference.

[germ]

Fascism, socialism, liberalism...there is no discernible difference

Yup, easier to only write out one though!

Erik

[abnormaltoy [OP]]

Yup, easier to only write out one though!

Erik

LOL! I know...but I just like to rub their noses in it. I just chafes their loins to be called what they are!