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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #30 on: Mar 08, 2007, 07:36:58 PM »
as i understand it autos suck a lot of power from the engine, not sure if it's true but makes sense. plus manuels are much more fun to drive

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #31 on: Mar 08, 2007, 08:00:35 PM »

i thought you had to change the oil pan unless running hysteer with lift because otherwise the clearance isnt in the right place.... thats what i was told way back when... and the reason i got an oil pan to put my 22r 2wd engine into my 4x4
i don't know, mine was out of a 92 2wd and i didn't change the oil pan.  it clears the highsteer but is a little close to the ram.

I told you that, jim.  this is what happens when you don't pay attention.  I said, with stock springs, you can't run the 2wd pan.  when the suspension compresses, the sump will smack the housing.  I put a hole in a 2wd pan in a 4wd truck with NO LIFT driving on the street.  Lifted, however, like Brads truck, there is clearance to make it work.

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #32 on: Mar 08, 2007, 08:07:26 PM »
just wasn't sure what the poster had planned, and someone later might see this and be like i read it was fine, and now have a fat hole in my oil pan.... id rather be safe then sorry....


Ive got my 4x4 oil pan ;) on my engine :thumbs:
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #33 on: Mar 08, 2007, 10:37:32 PM »
with stock springs, you can't run the 2wd pan.  when the suspension compresses, the sump will smack the housing. 

Oh yea, I've had a 2wd engine in my 4by for over 3 years and have a monster dent in the pan from the axle.
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #34 on: Mar 08, 2007, 10:55:49 PM »
Oh yea, I've had a 2wd engine in my 4by for over 3 years and have a monster dent in the pan from the axle.

all you did was fab up some more clearence  :eyebrow:
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #35 on: Mar 09, 2007, 06:36:00 PM »
as i understand it autos suck a lot of power from the engine, not sure if it's true but makes sense. plus manuels are much more fun to drive

Only about 15% of your hp. :yesnod:
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #36 on: Mar 09, 2007, 06:54:11 PM »
don't think i would ever run an auto behind a 4 banger, there just isn't enough engine for it

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #37 on: Mar 09, 2007, 07:04:54 PM »
I ran one in my 4Runner it wasn't that bad,  I even used to tow an 18' travel trailer with it.






















Though it was a turbo. :gap:
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #38 on: Mar 09, 2007, 08:24:21 PM »
Only about 15% of your hp. :yesnod:

thats 15 horsepower when you talk about these engines lol.  out of 100 horsepower, you would notice it.

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #39 on: Mar 09, 2007, 08:25:13 PM »
I told you that, jim.  this is what happens when you don't pay attention.  I said, with stock springs, you can't run the 2wd pan.  when the suspension compresses, the sump will smack the housing.  I put a hole in a 2wd pan in a 4wd truck with NO LIFT driving on the street.  Lifted, however, like Brads truck, there is clearance to make it work.

i might have to do some custom mods to mine now since my ram sits right there. look like it will hit it by 1/2 inch.  i will take a hammer to it tomarrow lol.

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #40 on: Mar 09, 2007, 08:27:50 PM »
thats 15 horsepower when you talk about these engines lol.  out of 100 horsepower, you would notice it.

I sure did notice until it hit 2500 rpm then my turbo kicked in and....  :burnout:
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #41 on: Mar 12, 2007, 08:12:48 AM »
You can't easily put your duals behind the 2wd tranny, so plan to re-use your 4wd tranny or grab another one.

It's possible, but not as economical, to run duals behind an A340H auto tranny.  All the "easy" Marlin parts are designed to put your duals behind a 4wd 4cyl 4/5-speed manual tranny.

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #42 on: Mar 12, 2007, 03:48:01 PM »
Well, yeah, but it ain't right.  it takes what 30 minutes to swap a pan? 


Why not do it right the first time?

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #43 on: Mar 12, 2007, 09:06:50 PM »
haha, my oil pan just clearanced itself on my ram mount this weekend.  no more hitting anymore  :)

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #44 on: Mar 12, 2007, 09:18:26 PM »
Im hopefully going to pick up this bucket and start a 4x4 conversion.
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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #45 on: Mar 16, 2007, 11:32:24 PM »
lets get this started..

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Re: could i convert a 2x4 to a 4x4?
« Reply #46 on: Mar 18, 2007, 01:09:40 PM »
yeah im still tryin to find all the money for the new truck, im alomost there and when i start ill be sure to post ho wthe builds going
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