Topic: how to 4 wheel disc brakes

[john]

hey guys i've been working on my truck for a while now and its been sitting for couple years and i want to go through the brakes im interested in up grading to the ifs front brakes, the larger 1'' master out of the 80s and rear discs i wanted to know how to go about it basically are there any brackets to fab up and what year trucks do i get all of this equipement out of
                                       
                                                                  any help would be greatly appreciated
                                                                      thanks alot, john

[john [OP]]

o yeah its an 83 4x short bed

[alwayzbroken]

There is info all over about this. Look around and all your questions will be answered. People don't like spoon feeding those who won't help themselves.

[kneedownnate]

There is info all over about this. Look around and all your questions will be answered. People don't like spoon feeding those who won't help themselves.

  Ditto, the search function itself may not work well always, but you can invest some time searching through the different sections and find some info, then bump this if you didn't find what you needed!

[john [OP]]

ok yeah i've been looking for a while i've seen the chevy truck rotors with the gm metric calipers but that kit is like  5 bills and then you have to run a drive line brake thats another 2 bills ive seen also the four piston toyota caliper with non vented toy rotors and then you dont get an e brake, so what im really trying to ask if any one has done it were the e brake is built into the calipers.

[Willy Mammoth]

Sorry the natives are a little uptight for some reason, hope you can for give them for being asses.

They should remmember they were once new here too.

The search function does not work so good, but there is info here about swapping out the IFS calipers, I think 86-88 is the year range and the rotors are from a Land Cruiser not sure on the model or year.

This is all bolt up, no brackets needed. You will need to change the master to a bigger master too.

As far as the rear, there is a couple ways to go. I would think you should be able to use a newer Tacoma caliper and rotor, but don't quote me on that. I used an Isuzu 88-89 rear caliper and rotor on mine.

I have templates for brackets if you are interested.

You will need banjo style brake lines to fit the calipers too and there is some machining needed to the axle to clear the rotor.

I have also not hooked up the E brake cables yet and have no advise on that although it can be done.

[Hottrod81]

I went another route.  I purchased the brackets from Sky Manufacturing.  The calipers are out of an early 80's Monte Carlo.  I just can't remember what the rotors are out of.  I found all of this information through Pirate, so you might check there.

[alwayzbroken]

Sorry the natives are a little uptight for some reason, hope you can for give them for being asses.
They should remmember they were once new here too.

I lurked for a good year learning all I could before I even thought about posting any questions. Mostly because the answers to all my questions had already been answered!

That being said I will say that piecing together your own set up and not buying a complete kit will save you a lot of money. Go with the monte carlo calipers and the early IFS chevy 1500 rotors with the centers machined out larger. E-brakes are not worth the added cost.

[RustRunner]

E-brakes are not worth the added cost.

 

[john [OP]]

cool thanks for the info willy that sounds great i would love to go the route you did thats pretty much all the stuff i wanted to here if you could send me some demenshions  on the brackets i can write up a program and i can have them milled out on the fadal at scool or just bridge port them
                                       
                                        thanks alot,
                                                           john

[Willy Mammoth]

cool thanks for the info willy that sounds great i would love to go the route you did thats pretty much all the stuff i wanted to here if you could send me some demenshions  on the brackets i can write up a program and i can have them milled out on the fadal at scool or just bridge port them
                                      
                                        thanks alot,
                                                           john

I can scan them to a pdf file and you can just trace them out on a piece of 3/8" plate.

[Yota Tony]

E-brake is definately useful.
A line lock can make a good temp e-brake for on the trail but don't trust it to hold your truck in place over night.

[john [OP]]

heck yeah that sounds great thanks

[Willy Mammoth]

Here is a pdf copy of the bracket.

Make sure you check your print settings, make sure "Shrink oversize pages to paper size" is not checked.

Then use a ruler to check the scale.

Cut out the pattern inside the line and trace to a 3/8" plate.

http://www.mhdfl.com/forum/Bracket%20for%2089%20Isuzu%204x4%20truck%20cailper%20to%20Toyota.pdf

[Ferg]

Which calipers does this template fit?  Toy or GM?

[alwayzbroken]

I used an Isuzu 88-89 rear caliper and rotor on mine.

I have templates for brackets if you are interested.

[Willy Mammoth]

You will need banjo style brake lines to fit the calipers too and there is some machining needed to the axle to clear the rotor.

[eightyfive]

i went with the larger brak calipers and vented rotors on the front but the rear i just used a 86' + axle...IMO disc in the rear are not needed unless your running fourties.

[alwayzbroken]

i went with the larger brak calipers and vented rotors on the front but the rear i just used a 86' + axle...IMO disc in the rear are not needed unless your running fourties.

Discs in the rear may not be needed unless you run in mud and like having no brakes and changing shoes after every weekend.

[Willy Mammoth]

Discs in the rear may not be needed unless you run in mud and like having no brakes and changing shoes after every weekend.

X2

Much easier to clean out and I just don't like drum brakes, they are a pain to work on.

[All_Set]

Discs in the rear may not be needed unless you run in mud and like having no brakes and changing shoes after every weekend.

x3  + much easier to replace broken axle on the trail.

[98taco4x]

Ruffstuff specialties makes a braket for about 50.00 to put taco dics on the rear.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/adapter-caliper-p-111.html

[john [OP]]

willys the man  watch out marlin j/k.
thanks again willy for all your help and a thank you goes out to every one else for there advice as well

[Max Heintz]

thanks for the templates

[Nothingface5384]

Ruffstuff specialties makes a braket for about 50.00 to put taco dics on the rear.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/adapter-caliper-p-111.html

hmm cool, so do you just buy this adapter plate then buy some taco discs and call it a day?..it cant be that simple can it?