Author Topic: retreads??? (Read 4331 times)

Travota · « **on:** Dec 14, 2006, 03:04:11 PM »

has anyone tried high tec retreading? I'm gonna need new tires soon probably but I'm broke....http://high-tec-retreading.com/DesktopDefault.aspx

jimbo74 · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 03:24:58 PM »

they retread big rig tires..... of course i do see a lot of big rig treads on the sides of the highways peeled off, but.......

i would personally just get some cheapo used tires of craigslist

DTB · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 03:28:10 PM »

Quote from: jimbo74 on Dec 14, 2006, 03:24:58 PM

i would personally just get some cheapo used tires of craigslist

X2, ive just seen too many problems with retreads

jimbo74 · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 03:41:52 PM »

another thing with big rigs, if they have 1 tire blow out, they dont roll, as they still have a bunch of other tires on the same axle

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 03:53:34 PM »

bigrigs also tow a whole lot the tires are stressed 24/7. i am goin to get some i for DD use. so i can save my iroks for wheelin

Drew

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 04:38:44 PM »

Quote from: Rockcrawlintoy on Dec 14, 2006, 03:53:34 PM

bigrigs also tow a whole lot the tires are stressed 24/7. i am goin to get some i for DD use. so i can save my iroks for wheelin

Drew

Drew, i have you know it is against the law to have retreads on the frontaxle of ANY truck

infact, MOST trucking companies ONLY run retreads on the trailer, very few run them on the drive axles anymore because of the damage they can do to the truck when they come off

I once had a retread come loose going thru arizona, wasnt bad hot, mid 80's but i was haulin

left rear outside tire on the trailer slung the cap off with such force it pealed the skin off the left side door on my reefer trailer

$1200 damage for a $200 tire

toyotatuner · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 05:13:13 PM »

retreads ------->

Hottrod81 · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 06:22:48 PM »

I wouldn't trust a retread. They are retreaded for a reason because they have been worn out once.

Travota · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 02:06:49 AM »

thanks guys thats pretty much what I was thinking, just thought I would ask.

papa mike · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 06:48:16 AM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Dec 14, 2006, 04:38:44 PM

Drew, i have you know it is against the law to have retreads on the frontaxle of ANY truck

infact, MOST trucking companies ONLY run retreads on the trailer, very few run them on the drive axles anymore because of the damage they can do to the truck when they come off

I once had a retread come loose going thru arizona, wasnt bad hot, mid 80's but i was haulin left rear outside tire on the trailer slung the cap off with such force it pealed the skin off the left side door on my reefer trailer

$1200 damage for a $200 tire

glen you hit the head of the nail here it is very illegal to run recaps on front axle
driving in 5 or 99 in cali there is a ton of gators on the road

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 02:36:18 PM »

im not sayin i dont believe you but i have yet to find a law banning them from steer tires. they cant be used on buses on the steer axle and cant be retreaded more then 2 times but no law saying that cant be used on steer axles.

Drew

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 02:37:56 PM »

this is where i read it.

http://www.retread.org/PDF/SteerAxle.pdf

papa mike · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 03:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Rockcrawlintoy on Dec 15, 2006, 02:37:56 PM

this is where i read it.

http://www.retread.org/PDF/SteerAxle.pdf

good post never heard of it before i have always been told that they are illegal guess a person has to check it out and go from there i myself would never run them on steer axles but others might i have seen to many blow or shred,, its all about saftey

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 03:10:41 PM »

i have seen many "new" tires shred too its all about tire care.

DRew

papa mike · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 03:28:35 PM »

yes you are very right there

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 08:24:06 PM »

Actually there was a law that forbid having any retread on the steering axle of any vehicle until they recently re-wrote the law allowing them provided the casings met certain guidlines. What that means is all tires can be capped but most older tires cannot be used on the steering axle since they don't meet the requirements.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 08:27:23 PM »

Wanna hear something funny? There is a company selling retreads for sportbikes, and to prove they're safe enough they run their own race team and sponsor others. If you ever see a tire on a sportbike that's any color other than black, it's one of theirs. From what I've seen they've actually proven themselves very well, but then again, they did get their roots long ago in retreading airplane tires, and those have to be safe to 300mph!

papa mike · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 08:33:24 PM »

just shows you how technoligy[spelling] has changed in the last 40 years

kneedownnate · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 09:32:26 PM »

I haven't heard of them having any tires coming apart, but I know bridgestone had a rear come apart during a moto gp race at 200mph! Rider highsided but came out with no real injuries

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 10:16:46 AM »

I have read a couple threads by people who tried the retreads. From what I hear they perform quite well and wear VERY well. That green, whetever it is compound that hi-tek uses is recomended. They are all build on BFG AT carcasses I believe. If they made a tire that would fit my rig right I would give em a shot.

miks85yota · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 11:31:23 AM »

i know when they come apart an our tank trailers, they take the light box, fender and evereything with em, but we not had a problem lately mustve changed the bonding process, but ive never heard of any problems runnin em on a trail rig, but i wouldnt do it on a daily driver

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 05:06:29 PM »

I also looked at retreads, and called the place up that was sellign them. They guy was very professional, answered all my questions, but he said that if you do any type of wheelin' in the vehicle you want to put them on, don't.

he said he tried putting them on his hunting truck, and the sidewalls don't flex for crap. They're great on the street, but I guess the retreading process stiffens the sidewall so the tire itse;f doesn't flex as well.

boggerunner · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 07:21:16 PM »

i know a guy here in town that has some worn out boggers, and he retreaded them with some skidster treads, they are hard as hell, but they work great on the rocks, just grab and go, imma do the same to my boggers when they wear out, i will post a pic tommorrow of them

kneedownnate · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 07:22:54 PM »

Could be a heat issue, or moreover a re-heat issue. Street tires are ok with repeated heat cycles, but only to a certain temp. A race tire carcass may better respond to the potential high heat of the bonding process, but the street tires might have an exaggerated aging reaction.

Just a theory

jimbo74 · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 07:28:49 PM »

have you guys seen airplane tires? tehy are 2-3" thick even the little ones are heavy....

alwayzbroken · « **Reply #25 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 10:14:24 PM »

I know a kid that ran over a palate with a brand new re tread tire and shredded it

They don't sound too tough to me.

kevin286 · « **Reply #26 on:** Dec 19, 2006, 09:22:16 AM »

I have been using 31" M/T retreads from high tec on my 4runner dd/weekend explorer for over a year now without any problems, they balenced out nicely, and the tread is not wearing abnormaly. The cores where bfg. I've been happy with them.

TRHS1980 · « **Reply #27 on:** Dec 19, 2006, 10:42:47 AM »

How much you pay for those Kevin? How many miles on them? For a "small" tire they might work fine.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #28 on:** Dec 19, 2006, 11:59:10 PM »

Something you gotta remember too, it's not like they just go to a huge pile of rubber and pull out random tires to retread. They have very strict standards they hold the tires to, and they probably go through several analysis steps before being deemed usable.

miks85yota · « **Reply #29 on:** Dec 20, 2006, 05:56:11 AM »

yeah i was just talkin to our tire guy, and he was tellin us how much he cant believe the improvements in selecting and analyzing and the bonding process itself on the casings they get for capping over the last couple years, so i asked him if he was gonna reimburse us for all our fenders and light boxes and time fixing trailers during their "developement" phase, he just laughed.

Travota [OP]

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