retreads???

Started by Travota, December 14, 2006, 03:04:11 PM

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Travota

has anyone tried high tec retreading? I'm gonna need new tires soon probably but I'm broke....http://high-tec-retreading.com/DesktopDefault.aspx
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jimbo74

they retread big rig tires..... of course i do see a lot of big rig treads on the sides of the highways peeled off, but.......

i would personally just get some cheapo used tires of craigslist
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Quote from: jimbo74 on December 14, 2006, 03:24:58 PM

i would personally just get some cheapo used tires of craigslist
X2, ive just seen too many problems with retreads
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jimbo74

another thing with big rigs, if they have 1 tire blow out, they dont roll, as they still have a bunch of other tires on the same axle
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Rockcrawlintoy

bigrigs also tow a whole lot the tires are stressed 24/7. i am goin to get some i for DD use. so i can save my iroks for wheelin

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Quote from: Rockcrawlintoy on December 14, 2006, 03:53:34 PM
bigrigs also tow a whole lot the tires are stressed 24/7. i am goin to get some i for DD use. so i can save my iroks for wheelin

Drew
Drew,  i have you know  it is  against the law  to have retreads  on the frontaxle of ANY truck

infact,  MOST trucking companies  ONLY run retreads  on the trailer,  very few  run them on the drive axles anymore  because of the  damage they can do to the truck when they come off


I once had a retread come loose  going thru arizona,  wasnt bad hot, mid 80's  but  i was haulin :moon:   left rear  outside  tire on the trailer slung the cap off with such force  it  pealed the  skin  off the  left side door  on my reefer trailer

$1200  damage  for a $200  tire
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Hottrod81

I wouldn't trust a retread.  They are retreaded for a reason because they have been worn out once.

Travota

thanks guys thats pretty much what I was thinking, just thought I would ask.
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Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on December 14, 2006, 04:38:44 PM
Drew,  i have you know  it is  against the law  to have retreads  on the frontaxle of ANY truck

infact,  MOST trucking companies  ONLY run retreads  on the trailer,  very few  run them on the drive axles anymore  because of the  damage they can do to the truck when they come off


I once had a retread come loose  going thru arizona,  wasnt bad hot, mid 80's  but  i was haulin :moon:   left rear  outside  tire on the trailer slung the cap off with such force  it  pealed the  skin  off the  left side door  on my reefer trailer

$1200  damage  for a $200  tire
glen you hit  the head of the nail  here   it is very illegal to run  recaps on front axle
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Rockcrawlintoy

im not sayin i dont believe you  but i have yet to find a law banning them from steer tires. they cant be used on buses on the steer axle and cant be retreaded more then 2 times but no law saying that cant be used on steer axles.

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papa mike

Quote from: Rockcrawlintoy on December 15, 2006, 02:37:56 PM
this is where i read it.

http://www.retread.org/PDF/SteerAxle.pdf


good  post   never  heard of it before  i have always been told  that they are illegal  guess a person has to check it out   and go from there   i myself would never run them on steer axles  but  others might  i have seen to  many  blow  or shred,, its all about saftey

Rockcrawlintoy

#13
i have seen many "new" tires shred too its all about tire care.

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papa mike

yes  you are very right there

Rocksurfer

Actually there was a law that forbid having any retread on the steering axle of any vehicle until they recently re-wrote the law allowing them provided the casings met certain guidlines. What that means is all tires can be capped but most older tires cannot be used on the steering axle since they don't meet the requirements.
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kneedownnate

Wanna hear something funny?  There is a company selling retreads for sportbikes, and to prove they're safe enough they run their own race team and sponsor others.  If you ever see a tire on a sportbike that's any color other than black, it's one of theirs.  From what I've seen they've actually proven themselves very well, but then again, they did get their roots long ago in retreading airplane tires, and those have to be safe to 300mph!
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I haven't heard of them having any tires coming apart, but I know bridgestone had a rear come apart during a moto gp race at 200mph!  Rider highsided but came out with no real injuries  :yikes:
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I have read a couple threads by people who tried the retreads.  From what I hear they perform quite well and wear VERY well.  That green, whetever it is compound that hi-tek uses is recomended.  They are all build on BFG AT carcasses I believe.  If they made a tire that would fit my rig right I would give em a shot.
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miks85yota

i know when they come apart an our tank trailers, they take the light box, fender and evereything with em, but we not had a problem lately mustve changed the bonding process, but ive never heard of any problems runnin em on a trail rig, but i wouldnt do it on a daily driver

BLACKDOG

I also looked at retreads, and called the place up that was sellign them.  They guy was very professional, answered all my questions, but he said that if you do any type of wheelin' in the vehicle you want to put them on, don't. :headshake:  he said he tried putting them on his hunting truck, and the sidewalls don't flex for crap. They're great on the street, but I guess the retreading process stiffens the sidewall so the tire itse;f doesn't flex as well. 
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boggerunner

i know a guy here in town that has some worn out boggers, and he retreaded them with some skidster treads, they are hard as hell, but they work great on the rocks, just grab and go, imma do the same to my boggers when they wear out, i will post a pic tommorrow of them

kneedownnate

Could be a heat issue, or moreover a re-heat issue.  Street tires are ok with repeated heat cycles, but only to a certain temp.  A race tire carcass may better respond to the potential high heat of the bonding process, but the street tires might have an exaggerated aging reaction. 

Just a theory :dunno:
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jimbo74

have you guys seen airplane tires? tehy are 2-3" thick even the little ones are heavy....
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alwayzbroken

I know a kid that ran over a palate with a brand new re tread tire and shredded it  :haha: They don't sound too tough to me.
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kevin286

I have been using 31" M/T retreads from high tec on my 4runner dd/weekend explorer for over a year now without any problems, they balenced out nicely, and the tread is not wearing abnormaly. The cores where bfg. I've been happy with them.  :driving:
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How much you pay for those Kevin? How many miles on them? For a "small" tire they might work fine.
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Something you gotta remember too, it's not like they just go to a huge pile of rubber and pull out random tires to retread.  They have very strict standards they hold the tires to, and they probably go through several analysis steps before being deemed usable.
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miks85yota

yeah i was just talkin to our tire guy, and he was tellin us how much he cant believe the improvements in selecting and analyzing and the bonding process itself on the casings they get for capping over the last couple years, so i asked him if he was gonna reimburse us for all our fenders and light boxes and time fixing trailers during their "developement" phase, he just laughed.