Topic: Remove BL or not

[abnormaltoy]

Hey, I have quick question and would like your opinions. I have a 2 in body lift and I’m wondering how much of a difference in handling going back to stock would make. I also have raised my engine/tranny/t-case a couple of inches in order to get as flat as I could on the bottom…this would stay as it is. So really, I’m wondering how much lower the CG would be by just lowering the body.
Thanks

[BLACKDOG]

im my experience, little to no difference.  I've got a 3" body, 4" IFS suspension with chevies, and 35" BFG MTs with no sway bar, and my buddy has the identical truck with the exception of the 3" body.  :there is very little difference, a tad more body roll, but not even noticable to me   Also, with my big hands, the benefits of working on my motor with the body lift far out weigh the downsides that I've experienced (ie, a little extra body roll)

[79coyotefrg]

i recently installed a 2 inch bl  and i cant tell any difference at all,  besides the occasional squeek 
and like Jason said ,  the  ability to  reach stuff  makes it alot nicer

[TexJeff87]

Seeing as you have done a drivetrain lift, is taking it off even an option?

[abnormaltoy [OP]]

Seeing as you have done a drivetrain lift, is taking it off even an option?

I think I'd have enough room under the hood, but I should double check. I just want to make a decision before I make my sliders, close up the hole in the floor (tranny lift) and make a cage.

[bluetoy84]

I don't think you'll tell any difference with or without the body lift. I have had several toyotas with body lifts and I have not had complaints. Actually I like a body lift. I think a truck with a 2" body lift and 3" springs is a LOT more stable than a truck with 5" springs and no body lift. I don't know why everyone thinks a body lift will make your CG so awful. I think your CG is worse with suspension lift than a body lift. Think about it, if you put a 3" body lift on a stock truck you raise only the cab and bed 3". Your frame and drivetrain stayed put and this is where most of the weight is, not the cab. With a 3" suspension lift you raise everything 3". I think the lower you can keep your frame hieght the better it will perform.

I like the idea of raising the t-case to match the body lift, but leaving the engine in the stock location. This gives you a flat belly with more clearance, while still keeping the frame hieght and the engine low on the axles. You gain plenty of ground clearance under the frame from the larger tires and flat belly without using super tall lift springs.

Also, you gain more tire clearance from 2" of body lift than you would with 4" springs. With a 2" body lift you get true 2" of tire clearance, unlike a suspension lift which only gives you tire clearance on flat ground unless you put long bumpstop extensions. As mentioned earlier, a body lift makes a lot of stuff easier to work on.

Overall I think there are a lot of advantages to a body lift that get overlooked because the general consensus is that body lifts are awful and when some mentions body lifts you get flamed. I think this is a misconception.

For what it's worth, you now have my   on body lifts.  

[Rocksurfer]

I ran a 2" on my 4Runner and it didn't seem to make a difference in feel when I 1st put it on, I'd just leave it especially if you didn't put it on. There are a lot of things that were altered to a minor degree that would have to be dealt with if you take it off.

[abnormaltoy [OP]]

I ran a 2" on my 4Runner and it didn't seem to make a difference in feel when I 1st put it on, I'd just leave it especially if you didn't put it on. There are a lot of things that were altered to a minor degree that would have to be dealt with if you take it off.

I put it on...but the more I look at it, the more I think I'll leave it on. More room for sliders, a bumper and the winch. Besides, it's a good (4Crawler) kit.
Thanks every one!

[Rocksurfer]

I can safely say that my 2" lift saved my kickers and rockers on many occasion since it would land on the frame before it would hit the body, plus you can come straight out with your sliders instead of an angle. I only hit my body one time and the damage would have been a lot worse if it didn't have a body lift.

[toy4x4ota]

i had a body lift on my old 95 ifs and that is gay.  flatbelly with no body lift is way cooler

[abnormaltoy [OP]]

i had a body lift on my old 95 ifs and that is gay.

I wonder if it's anywhere near as gay as telling people you don't know that their sh!it is gay. Given your well thought out response...I think I'll keep it on.

[Rocksurfer]

Isn't it funny how people think something is gay just because they haven't tried it? I loved my lift and put it on a gay IFS truck to boot. I guess I'm just twice as gay. Bet I've taken my gay ass IFS with a 2" gay ass body lift some places that even some bad ass rigs would wince at... not everyone but some especially since it was gay.

[toy4x4ota]

all i was trying to say is that i personally didnt like the body lift that i had on my truck

[abnormaltoy [OP]]

all i was trying to say is that i personally didnt like the body lift that i had on my truck

That sounds a bit more neighborly! You slide further on BS than you do on sandpaper.
I haven’t been dissatisfied with my BL…I just wanted to make sure before I committed to welding on a bunch of stuff.

Mark

[DTB]

Isn't it funny how people think something is gay just because they haven't tried it?  I guess I'm just twice as gay.

  that pretty much sums up rocksurfer

[TRHS1980]

i had a body lift on my old 95 ifs and that is gay.  flatbelly with no body lift is way cooler

  Yeah, anybody with your obvious wealth of knowledge should be over on pirate... they'd love you over there. 

[unclejpl4x4]

   

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