Author Topic: 22RE Supercharger (Read 24821 times)

Matty · « **on:** Jun 04, 2006, 01:17:24 PM »

i was reading an article in 4Wheel and Off Road a while back about and LC Engineering Motor that they put in a tubed yota, and in the article they showed the preview of this EFI Supercharger. I was just wondering if they started making it yet, because i cannot find it on their website, and i called today but its sunday and i didnt get an answer. or if anyone else makes one for 22RE for that matter. thanks for any info $Beer Chug\'n$

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #1 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 04:03:22 PM »

yummy

Geno · « **Reply #2 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 04:12:24 PM »

The stopped making the 22RE supercharger, I am not sure why. They still sell the 22R carb supercharger setup though.

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #3 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 04:23:42 PM »

You can always buy the whole shebang from www.toyotaperformance.com for $6525.00

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #4 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 04:29:36 PM »

You could always pimp the turbo...

Matty · « **Reply #5 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 04:36:23 PM »

i was looking at that talking about how they used a 3rd generation Eaton M45 supercharger that wasnt being sold anymore. But on Eatons site it says they sell it still. The other difference is that they say its a 3rd generation but it looks a lot more like their 4th generation M45. Of course i dont know really anything about these so any info is appreciated.

The first picture is the 3rd Generation M45, the next is the 4th Generation M45 which is suppose to be for "engineered for 1.0 to 2.4 litre port injected engines". and then the toyota performance site says the one pictured above from CTENG in KS is that 3rd gen one.

Matty · « **Reply #6 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 04:37:15 PM »

Quote from: CTENG in KS on Jun 04, 2006, 04:29:36 PM

You could always pimp the turbo...

not to keen on turbos. i suppose it would be pretty fun though

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #7 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 05:53:25 PM »

the LCengineering turbo is a T3/T4 Garrett. way WAY more turbo than the stock ct-20

toyman1994 · « **Reply #8 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 08:19:17 PM »

It's been several yrs since I looked into this but it seems to me that the only actual one you could get was from a guy in Puallup(I know I miss spelled that, sorry) WA. He was specially building them as orders came in. I will try to remember his contact info/find it for you if you are serious. The cost was just over 2500 for the charger and all components at that time.

gotrocks · « **Reply #9 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 10:51:45 PM »

Quote from: toyman1994 on Jun 04, 2006, 08:19:17 PM

It's been several yrs since I looked into this but it seems to me that the only actual one you could get was from a guy in Puallup(I know I miss spelled that, sorry) WA. He was specially building them as orders came in. I will try to remember his contact info/find it for you if you are serious. The cost was just over 2500 for the charger and all components at that time.

yeah try to rememer I live in washington and would love to get something like that someday for my 4Runner

Matty · « **Reply #10 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 06:10:35 PM »

Quote from: toyman1994 on Jun 04, 2006, 08:19:17 PM

It's been several yrs since I looked into this but it seems to me that the only actual one you could get was from a guy in Puallup(I know I miss spelled that, sorry) WA. He was specially building them as orders came in. I will try to remember his contact info/find it for you if you are serious. The cost was just over 2500 for the charger and all components at that time.

that would be great if you could find that info. appreciate the help.

toyman1994 · « **Reply #11 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 07:20:23 PM »

toyman1994 · « **Reply #12 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 07:31:47 PM »

I'm pretty sure this is the guy I talked to...it was back in 2002

http://www.camdensuperchargers.com/index.php?pag=401

Looks like the price has gone up a little bit too.

BoG-ToY · « **Reply #13 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 12:00:14 AM »

I was thinking the whole time reading down the post....camden superchargers....atkins rotary....I got to see his daily driver.....actually....I basically drove next to him from LA to CA down I-10 kinda funny.....the kit looks nice though, he had one in his trailer that came with a webber I think...but also offered an EFI model...very clean looking....I wanted one. wish I had cash:( hes from washington....so yeah

Matty · « **Reply #14 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 04:02:35 AM »

Quote from: toyman1994 on Jun 05, 2006, 07:31:47 PM

I'm pretty sure this is the guy I talked to...it was back in 2002

http://www.camdensuperchargers.com/index.php?pag=401

Looks like the price has gone up a little bit too.

price didnt go up too much. now all i need is a little more money

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thanks again for the help $Beer Chug\'n$

toyman1994 · « **Reply #15 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 05:05:55 AM »

no prob.

Sundowner · « **Reply #16 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 08:08:55 AM »

Quote from: Geno on Jun 04, 2006, 04:12:24 PM

The stopped making the 22RE supercharger, I am not sure why. They still sell the 22R carb supercharger setup though.

superchargers are obsolete.

Geno · « **Reply #17 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 08:23:23 AM »

Quote from: Sundowner on Jun 06, 2006, 08:08:55 AM

superchargers are obsolete.

Lies!!! I love me 22re supercharger

I am taking it off and selling it though because it is not CA smog legal

toyman1994 · « **Reply #18 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 08:27:23 AM »

Quote from: Sundowner on Jun 06, 2006, 08:08:55 AM

superchargers are obsolete.

I kinda agree, at least for a 22R/RE. After looking at the numbers that the supercharger was supposed to get me, I decided to build my new engine up with a cam, valve springs, oversized pistons, and header. The only thing I didn't do was the valves which I wish I would have done. This still netted me enough to run anything I want with no trouble on 39.5 Iroks and even out run bertha's V-6.

Now you want some cheap power, get a 20R head with a carb and put it on top your 22RE block with the oversized pistons, oversized valve job, cam and header. I do have another buddy that runs almost as well as EFI with a STOCK carb.

alpha_radiation · « **Reply #19 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 09:08:04 AM »

I don't understand why someone would spend that kind of money on a 22/re when a 3vz will do it, with a better foundation???

Sundowner · « **Reply #20 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 11:10:16 AM »

Quote from: Engineer Ben on Jun 06, 2006, 09:08:04 AM

I don't understand why someone would spend that kind of money on a 22/re when a 3vz will do it, with a better foundation???

I dont' know why someone would do a supercharger over a turbo, but assuming the more efficient turbo is chosen:
a mild 22re built with a turbo eliminates a lot of wiring and mounting headaches, is overall cheaper to do, and will generate more power than a 5vze while returning better gas mileage. is the 3rz a better motor than a 22re? yes. is it cost effective to swap in a 3rz vs. a properly built 22re or 22rte? ususally not.

now someone will reply who said he did a 3rz for several hundred dollars, but forgot to add in the 17 $100 trips to the hardware and autoparts stores

toyman1994 · « **Reply #21 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 11:18:39 AM »

The turbo vs supercharger is a long debate but you have to decide when you want your power to kick in. Turbo's don't really start helping you until you get to higher RPM's where Superchargers start at lower RPM's. Of course there are variations to this depending on how they are built and how much you want to pay for them. For rockcrawling I don't think either one of them is going to help a whole lot just due to the fact you don't use alot of skinny all the time and adding that kind of power such as when using the supercharger or turbo can have more of a breakage effect on tranny's, transfer cases, axles and such. Build a good engine and be done with it.

Of course I am saying all this while I am in the process of throwing a 4.3 vortec in my junk.

There is no correct answer, it's just what you want to run and how you view things. There is a saying for this---"To each his own."

alpha_radiation · « **Reply #22 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 11:23:19 AM »

I realize the 3vz is going to cost more and take more time, but the beneift is greater. It has more hp/tq than a turbo re and there is less to go wrong. If the turbo fails you just paid for the bulk of a 3vz swap.
And if the supercharger isn't smog legal you have to take it off and put it back on.

I bet converting an re to a turbo costs about 75% of the 3vz swap.

A properly sized turbo or supercharger (screw style) will give you plenty of low end torque.

toyman1994 · « **Reply #23 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 11:40:49 AM »

But the 22re turbo is high end torque and like I said, it will vary, just depends on what you want to pay for.

Overall I vote build the engine you want for what you need, leave the both of 'em out and spend the money on building a kickin engine. 8)

Sundowner · « **Reply #24 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 11:49:11 AM »

Quote from: Engineer Ben on Jun 06, 2006, 11:23:19 AM

I realize the 3vz is going to cost more and take more time, but the beneift is greater. It has more hp/tq than a turbo re and there is less to go wrong. If the turbo fails you just paid for the bulk of a 3vz swap.
And if the supercharger isn't smog legal you have to take it off and put it back on.

I bet converting an re to a turbo costs about 75% of the 3vz swap.

A properly sized turbo or supercharger (screw style) will give you plenty of low end torque.

assuming you are going to rebuild a 22re, the cost of adding a turbo is relatively small. maybe $1000 over the cost of rebuild a 22re. turbos have become so common place that they are cheaper than AC compressors, anymore. a rebuilt T-3 should run about $250.

Sundowner · « **Reply #25 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 11:51:20 AM »

Quote from: toyman1994 on Jun 06, 2006, 11:40:49 AM

But the 22re turbo is high end torque and like I said, it will vary, just depends on what you want to pay for.

Overall I vote build the engine you want for what you need, leave the both of 'em out and spend the money on building a kickin engine. 8)

totally agree on build it however you want it. but before you dismiss turbos as high end ricer novelties, go test drive a MODERN turbocahrged car like a Legacy GT or an Audi A3. turbos tuned for bottom end torque can be insane.

Matty · « **Reply #26 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 12:01:38 PM »

isn't it all personal perference for what you want to do? and how you want to spend your money anyways though

if you can and want to why not? i agree with building a strong solid motor and having that more than enough, but dont you wanna have a little fun too

toyman1994 · « **Reply #27 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 02:06:16 PM »

Quote from: Sundowner on Jun 06, 2006, 11:51:20 AM

totally agree on build it however you want it. but before you dismiss turbos as high end ricer novelties, go test drive a MODERN turbocahrged car like a Legacy GT or an Audi A3. turbos tuned for bottom end torque can be insane.

maybe so, I don't drive cars

...but anyways...this was about finding a supercharger for someone not a which is best. there is always the exception.

as far as building something and then add to it for more fun...well I am, going to the 4.3 vortec. I don't want to get too much power cause then I will really start breaking things.

BigMike · « **Reply #28 on:** Jun 10, 2006, 10:34:45 PM »

I did not see this topic until now, and I've decided to stay out of it.

Anyone see this on eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8073539956

The guys claims its for a 22R, but the intake manifold is appears to be for a 20R head. Caburated Supercharger

Supercharger, the only type of boost worth having.
BigMike

Willy Mammoth · « **Reply #29 on:** Jun 11, 2006, 06:53:13 AM »

I have a friend that has a kit like this that told me he wanted to get rid of it. Not sure if it was for 20R or 22R, but I know it was for a Carb.

If this is something you are intrested in let me know and I will get pictures and talk to him about price.

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