Anybody seen this break on a 22RE?

Started by Volcom, May 22, 2006, 09:28:05 PM

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Volcom





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This is my parts truck for my 84 4Runner rockcrawler project (http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=14334.0)

I knew the engine wasn't running when I bought it but the guy never could tell me why.  My dad or I have never seen an engine break in that spot.  What would cause that bolt to break?  I'm glad I bought a new cam and adjustable cam gear now.

Oh yea, the rocker assembly needs a good cleaning :)

84 4Runner
Swapped EFI and a rebuilt 22RE
Marlin Dual Ultimate crawler
Marlin high steer
TG springs
5.29's, Aussie locked front and rear
39.5" Iroks on 15x10 2.5" backspaced wheels
109" wheelbase
Addicted Off Road 8 point cage
Addicted Off Road front bumper

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Ramrod

wow thats wierd make sure your distributer is alright too

BoG-ToY

thats what I was gonna say...make sure your distributer isnts seazed up or something
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Volcom

I haven't checked the distributer yet.  I just unbolted it and removed it.  Is there a test to see if the distributor is trashed?  Thanks guys
84 4Runner
Swapped EFI and a rebuilt 22RE
Marlin Dual Ultimate crawler
Marlin high steer
TG springs
5.29's, Aussie locked front and rear
39.5" Iroks on 15x10 2.5" backspaced wheels
109" wheelbase
Addicted Off Road 8 point cage
Addicted Off Road front bumper

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derek

looks like it may have been loose, allowing it to wobble some and breaking the bolt.
definitely a strange break though. :headscratch:

unclejpl4x4

wow weird.......... but  my ? is whats with all the sludged  up valve train thats is nasty.  Makes me wana come overthere and tare apart your moter and hand U a tooth brush :whip:
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MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

BCD

was the oil ever changed in that motor?  :headscratch: 'cause with all that sludge you never know what's going to break. Good luck!

jimbo74

did the bolt actually snap? or is it jsut beat to hell? whats the camshaft look like... it looks like someone overtorqued or undertorqued that bolt to hell
:usa:

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Volcom

The bolt is completely stretched and broken.  The cam is siezed up in the head.  I think some of the oil holes to the cam got clogged (imagine that  :greengrin:) and stopped the cam dead in its tracks one day.
84 4Runner
Swapped EFI and a rebuilt 22RE
Marlin Dual Ultimate crawler
Marlin high steer
TG springs
5.29's, Aussie locked front and rear
39.5" Iroks on 15x10 2.5" backspaced wheels
109" wheelbase
Addicted Off Road 8 point cage
Addicted Off Road front bumper

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jimbo74

Quote from: Volcom on May 23, 2006, 09:26:52 PM
The bolt is completely stretched and broken.  The cam is siezed up in the head.  I think some of the oil holes to the cam got clogged (imagine that  :greengrin:) and stopped the cam dead in its tracks one day.

that assumption sounds quite reasonable by the look of that picture......
:usa:

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KYOTA

filter = $5 OEM Toyota
Oil    = $ 1.50 qt x 5
time  = 15 minutes

= your engine will love you long time.

Lubrication is cheap insurance

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unclejpl4x4

build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=39214.0
CB install http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=45467.0
roundeyes http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=33294.0;highlight=round+eyes
LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

Volcom

Quote from: KYOTA on May 23, 2006, 11:24:20 PM
filter = $5 OEM Toyota
Oil    = $ 1.50 qt x 5
time  = 15 minutes

= your engine will love you long time.

Lubrication is cheap insurance

Believe me, I take much better care of my stuff then the guy I bought this 4Runner from.  Thanks for the picture Mike, made me laugh :)
84 4Runner
Swapped EFI and a rebuilt 22RE
Marlin Dual Ultimate crawler
Marlin high steer
TG springs
5.29's, Aussie locked front and rear
39.5" Iroks on 15x10 2.5" backspaced wheels
109" wheelbase
Addicted Off Road 8 point cage
Addicted Off Road front bumper

Addicted Off Road

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Ramrod

if your cam is siezed in your head you might not wanna use that one because its probably warped

Volcom

Quote from: TEAM RAMROD on May 24, 2006, 11:39:09 AM
if your cam is siezed in your head you might not wanna use that one because its probably warped

Thanks for the heads up.  I have another head that I have cleaned up and did a 3 angle valve job that I was planning on using.
84 4Runner
Swapped EFI and a rebuilt 22RE
Marlin Dual Ultimate crawler
Marlin high steer
TG springs
5.29's, Aussie locked front and rear
39.5" Iroks on 15x10 2.5" backspaced wheels
109" wheelbase
Addicted Off Road 8 point cage
Addicted Off Road front bumper

Addicted Off Road

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unclejpl4x4

please tell me your gona take apart the bottum end so i can sleep 2 night
build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=39214.0
CB install http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=45467.0
roundeyes http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=33294.0;highlight=round+eyes
LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

jimbo74

im with ^^^^

with that much sludge in the engine, i would jsut get a block that wasnt nasty... that engine is toast, and using it is not a good idea....
:usa:

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~ John F. Kennedy ~

79coyotefrg

if the block isnt cracked it will be ok
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79coyotefrg

looks like stupid  blew a head gasket mixed the soup  till the head froze up,  im sure the valve guides are froze to the valves as well as the cam being locked

i ve seen it befor  but that truck was hydra locked
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Duffil

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on May 24, 2006, 05:32:50 PM
looks like stupid  blew a head gasket

glen, you shouldn't name-call!!  :nonono:

:gap:

79coyotefrg

AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Volcom

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on May 24, 2006, 05:32:50 PM
looks like stupid  blew a head gasket mixed the soup  till the head froze up,  im sure the valve guides are froze to the valves as well as the cam being locked

i ve seen it befor  but that truck was hydra locked

First off guys, THIS WASN'T MY FAULT, I BOUGHT THE TRUCK THIS WAY JUST FOR THE EFI STUFF (intake, fuel tank, wiring, all that stuff).  Sorry for the yelling but I take wayyyyyyy better care of my stuff than this guy did.  I have a rebuilt shortblock sitting in the garage so I don't plan on touching this block or head. 

The headgasket was fine, looked great!  I think the nasty oil sludge clogged some of the oil passages to the cam and the camshaft froze up.  I can't get it to turn at all. 

Glen, it's not nice to name call  :fakeflip:   :respekt:
84 4Runner
Swapped EFI and a rebuilt 22RE
Marlin Dual Ultimate crawler
Marlin high steer
TG springs
5.29's, Aussie locked front and rear
39.5" Iroks on 15x10 2.5" backspaced wheels
109" wheelbase
Addicted Off Road 8 point cage
Addicted Off Road front bumper

Addicted Off Road

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skunkyoda

looks like they got mud in the motor, with tar
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toymech

  Id say the bolt was put in stripped by an impact wrench. Remember the roll pin in the cam holds it from spinning. Weird,very weird :hammerhead:
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: Volcom on May 25, 2006, 02:56:19 PM
First off guys, THIS WASN'T MY FAULT, I BOUGHT THE TRUCK THIS WAY JUST FOR THE EFI STUFF (intake, fuel tank, wiring, all that stuff).  Sorry for the yelling but I take wayyyyyyy better care of my stuff than this guy did. 

Glen, it's not nice to name call  :fakeflip:   :respekt:
:down:  sorry for the bad mouthin  :down:  i should be :spankbutt:


BUT FOR THE RECORD    :eek:   i was referring to the previous owner of said engine that toasted it, not  to Volcom  :therethere:


but  good  call to you guys  for calling me out :thumbs:
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Rocksurfer

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on July 04, 2006, 03:43:28 PM
  :down:  sorry for the bad mouthin  :down:  i should be :spankbutt:


BUT FOR THE RECORD    :eek:   i was referring to the previous owner of said engine that toasted it, not  to Volcom  :therethere:


but  good  call to you guys  for calling me out :thumbs:

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79coyotefrg

AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way