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full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« on: May 10, 2006, 09:02:32 PM »
:welcome:   I have a set of Chevy military axles Dana 60s...     I'm debating on using these since I have them already!!
          what do you guys think?         advise...

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 09:14:08 PM »
Depends on whether or not your going to utilize them. Like most have already said on here, the only thing a Dana 60 has on a Toyota axle is width, if you upgrade a Toyota axle to 30 spline longfields its almost as strong as a Dana 60.

I've done both (almost  :) ) ... and got to the point where I wanted to go bigger so step'd up to Dana 60's.

Are you going to be doing some serious rock crawling or just trail riding?

Its all going to be based on your application. You could sale those Dana 60's and get some majorly built Toyota axles or spend the extra dough and just go to the ultimate axle.

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 09:22:49 PM »
The strongest will be to build the 60's, then you also get the width.  But you still need to dump a bunch of money into them to be stronger than built toyota axles.  If i had 60's laying around i would use them.

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 09:23:12 PM »
cant forget gears  that the 60 has on a toyota..  personally if i was going to build another truck  id do fullwidths   right away..  after wheelin a fullwidth truck for  well over a year now  there is no contest..  i can take my truck up much tougher obsticals  and remain stable or atleast still on my tires..   if you have them.. USE THEM!
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2006, 10:13:12 PM »
I had them for a blazer that I was going to build but ended up getting into toyotas and well they are both locked up with detroits and have 4.56 gears..  are full widths a plus for a place like johnson valley or do I cut them down to toyota axle width..

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2006, 10:32:32 PM »
I would keep them full width. 

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2006, 10:51:17 PM »
well to be honest I'm done the built toyota axle and so now i'm doing teh full width 60/14b combo.  I have a built 4 runner right now and love it especially in the snow around where I live.  Now the weight of the 1 ton axles sucks in the snow and so that why most people run toyota running gear around here.  Now that I like to do a lot more than just snow I can't stand breaking in the rocks.  I know it will always happen but I just decided that I wanted the extra width and strength that the 1 ton axles offered.  I'm going to be running a 350 in my next truck with duals and 4.56 gears, detroit rear and ARB front. 

It really come down to what type of wheeling you like to do.  If you want strength both axles are strong if built right.  If you want to save weight go with the toy axles.  Width now thats a no brainer

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2006, 12:45:35 AM »
personally toyota diffs are pointless to build.. Why. because you put all this money into the "Big, Beefy" shafts but you still chance bending the housing, dealing with the histeer arm studs. even if you get chromoly there still gonna break. I have 60s under my junk right now, my width isnt that wide with 5" BS rims and 40" MTRs on the fullwidth front. even if the trails are tight you can always squeeze through them sidewayz. Build the 60s, sell that toyota stock junk and build the piss out of the front end. youll be able to blast :pokinit: with that diff and mostly be mad about your 2hr. paint job.
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2006, 01:57:16 AM »
pretty much couldnt have said it better.
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2006, 06:05:54 PM »
what brand rims have that 5' back spacing what size rims ?

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2006, 12:10:21 AM »
17x9 from summit racing, $60 a peice. cant argue with that.

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2006, 12:06:04 PM »
 Go 1 tons and don't look back. You can beef the hell out of the toy axles and your still going to have ring and pinion issues.
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2006, 11:03:20 PM »
i'll be posting up pictures of my build.. my truck right know does not really have much but i'm just gathering money and parts. it does have a flat bed kit with full exo cage that is in process. done by a friend a ACE custom fab. will try and post pics of my truck in the next couple of days

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2006, 08:57:26 PM »
    Can 1 tons be done with the Toy bolt pattern?  I have a set of nice wheels already and don't want to switch.  Thanks  Jim
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2006, 08:59:13 PM »
    Can 1 tons be done with the Toy bolt pattern?  I have a set of nice wheels already and don't want to switch.  Thanks  Jim

there are companies that will custom make axleshafts, however that will cost you more then new wheels..... or you can get those wheel spacer/pattern converters
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2006, 09:19:22 PM »
Paulie are you in CA?
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2006, 10:45:33 PM »
Paulie are you in CA?
Nope washington state. wish i was in Cali to run the Rubicon

    Can 1 tons be done with the Toy bolt pattern?  I have a set of nice wheels already and don't want to switch.  Thanks  Jim
You convert your wheel lug pattern through the wheel hubs. Contact Highonda on Pirate. he can set you up with new wheel hubs, rotors, bearings and races shipped to your door for about $450.
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2006, 10:42:54 AM »
my argument for this post is UNIMOGS.  thats all I would think of running if I switched from toy axles, plus why do you guys need your axles so wide?

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2006, 11:58:11 AM »
Nope washington state. wish i was in Cali to run the Rubicon
You convert your wheel lug pattern through the wheel hubs. Contact Highonda on Pirate. he can set you up with new wheel hubs, rotors, bearings and races shipped to your door for about $450.
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2006, 12:35:05 PM »
my argument for this post is UNIMOGS.  thats all I would think of running if I switched from toy axles, plus why do you guys need your axles so wide?

wheel a fullwidth truck and you will understand.. thats about the only way i can put it.. the stability is plain stupid. i can take angles where a rig on yotas would roll and im nowhere near rolling
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2006, 01:25:15 PM »
wheel a fullwidth truck and you will understand.. thats about the only way i can put it.. the stability is plain stupid. i can take angles where a rig on yotas would roll and im nowhere near rolling
yeah but I see them also having alot more trouble fitting in places and making obsticles period because they just don't work right.  When I get some mogs and 49"s than i'll talk back about how I like the fullwidth

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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2006, 01:33:47 PM »
yeah but I see them also having alot more trouble fitting in places and making obsticles period because they just don't work right.  When I get some mogs and 49"s than i'll talk back about how I like the fullwidth
ive never had any problems like that.  i mean yeah ive had to walk walls and such before but its no big deal. i usually take the more extreme lines anyway to fit places so it doesnt seem like its to wide to me its just more 2nd nature.  next step for me is rockwells and 44's and i plan on being around 100" wide
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2006, 01:55:57 PM »
ive never had any problems like that.  i mean yeah ive had to walk walls and such before but its no big deal. i usually take the more extreme lines anyway to fit places so it doesnt seem like its to wide to me its just more 2nd nature.  next step for me is rockwells and 44's and i plan on being around 100" wide
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2006, 02:12:53 PM »
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2006, 04:18:44 PM »
and with mogs  you get the added reduction in the portals :drool:
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2006, 04:35:35 PM »
DUDE  :eyecrazy:   your just dying to run a D-9 Cat  aint ya

Nah  i just like the width.. 100" overall width  will be pure awesome stable.  hell i bet that jeep is in the 95" range.
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2006, 06:22:32 PM »
   So...throwing another question out there.   Dana 60 or Ford 9"
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2006, 06:28:13 PM »
the 9 inch has a really LOW pinion

but it is strong,   it has the extra bearing on the end of the pinion like a 14 bolt
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2006, 06:29:13 PM »
yea, that jeep is wicked wide :driving:   bet it would be a blast in the snow
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Re: full width 1ton axles or toyota axles
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2006, 06:30:00 PM »
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