easy anti theft device

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BLACKDOG

Quote from: robrub00 on February 02, 2007, 01:48:28 AM
in nutral you could still roll it  in reverse it cant be moved forward and he said he backs into the spot.   i like the idea it will stop the highschooler who has nothing better to do but ive broken a pad lock with a shoe before.  and with aprybar or somethin they can be real easy to get off.  all this is good inf though!!  keep it coming.  there is always the tow method too.  how do you prevent that!!!  i guess the gps or lojack is the way to go with that.  i want to get a proximity sensor and the paging alarms are coming down in price. 

I think for most people, its the idea of making the rig harder to steal than the next guys.  Most professional car theives will be prepared and able to bypass a lot of security measures, and be experienced in finding trip circuits and so forth. 

Of course, lojak and gps doesn't prevent theft, just aids in recovery  :hahaha:

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DTB

my idea is to fabricate something similar to a boot (like the city uses for parking violations). wouldnt be easy to put on or off but i would think it would deter alot of people
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Quote from: robrub00 on February 02, 2007, 01:48:28 AM
in nutral you could still roll it  in reverse it cant be moved forward and he said he backs into the spot.   


Duh that makes sense!
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There are some pretty good ideas on this thread.  My favorite is the really long one about the reed switch which is activated with a magnet.  I like wiring and tricky things like that :love: its fun i think

Im going to see if i can get the parts needed and make it work before putting it in my truck.  Ive thought long and hard at night (instead of sleeping haha) about anti theft devices but I can only think or relays and kill switches for the battery or starter or ignition coil and whatnot.  Those are easily bypassed though.  I always worry when I leave my truck places....whether its outfront of a store or parked outfront of my buddys house for the night.  One time i HAD to leave it in an open lot by some trails to go into town in another truck to get a part.  Wow ive never worried about something so much in my life

getting stuff stolen SUCKS
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QUOTE!!!
""""""I've been thinking about calling this company.  It's a GPS location device, that's like lojack, but you can find it via internet at all times!  Maybe somebody could check into this! 

http://www.geotracer.net/GeoTracer

Problem with lojack is that not all police agencies have the equipment to detect the signal!

I've played with a  buddies On-Star system in his new chevy, and I wish they had an aftermarket version of it!  They could make a killing with this!  Especially, with toyota owners!  There are quite a few stolen rigs in Washington, I've been following some other local boards, and it's a big problem up there!""""



the only problem with the internet thing is... if i had that, my parents would use it against me..

they'd be like, you weren't at your friends house last night.. i guess its a good idea if you dont have parents who check up on you, or you've moved out of the house..
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My 2 cents:

Install Alarm a good one Viper or Alpine

Get all your windows VIN etched

Pedal lock

Wheel locks

Install Tamper proof Torx bolts with nylock nuts on your license plates (why make a thieves life easy by leaving in stock hardware) so if he is thinking of swiping or switching plates he is going to have a BF.

Write down your serial numbers on your; Winch, Engine, trans and transfer case.  If your rig does get stolen you're not looking for anonymous parts. Hell even your battery has a serial number.

Use a paint pen and write your trucks VIN behind the tailgate access panel, inner door structure etc. Make sure to hide it. Again so if you find your parts you know they are yours, and can show the police something proving they are.

Don't leave valuables inside your truck i.e ipods, back packs, cell phones, school books  radar detectors, CD cases etc. Tweakers will steal anything that is not nailed down even if it means smashing out your window to steal .75 cents.

Keep only your registration and insurance in the glovebox or better yet on your person. Do not leave receipts for parts, upgrades etc.

Engrave/stamp any after market parts i.e ARB/TJM bumper Skid plates etc

Don't leave anything in your bed when you not out wheeling, at a job etc.   I have heard of rigs being stolen, just because of what was in the bed i.e construction tools, tile, steel, lumber, hardware, motorcycles, bikes etc.

BLACKDOG

Here's a new one!! 

A contractor on a jobsite had it. 

He had a plate welded offcenter to a peice of solid round bar.  He also had another plate with a hole drille in it the same size as the roundbar, and the roundbar had a hole drilled into it at that end.  He slid the roundbar through a hole in his front wheels, and then used a HD hitchpin lock on the other side, afeter sliding the other plate onto it.  This way, you can't drive the truck, can't turn the truck, and you can't even take the wheels off, because the plate blocks the lugnuts :thumbs:  granted, its big and heavy, but it works!!

:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

jimbo74

Quote from: BLACKDOG on April 23, 2007, 12:45:54 PM
Here's a new one!! 

A contractor on a jobsite had it. 

He had a plate welded offcenter to a peice of solid round bar.  He also had another plate with a hole drille in it the same size as the roundbar, and the roundbar had a hole drilled into it at that end.  He slid the roundbar through a hole in his front wheels, and then used a HD hitchpin lock on the other side, afeter sliding the other plate onto it.  This way, you can't drive the truck, can't turn the truck, and you can't even take the wheels off, because the plate blocks the lugnuts :thumbs:  granted, its big and heavy, but it works!!




something a little bit like
:usa:

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BLACKDOG

Quote from: jimbo74 on April 23, 2007, 12:53:10 PM

something a little bit like


kind of, except his went from wheel to wheel, so it could prevent the truck from turning





:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

jimbo74

Quote from: BLACKDOG on April 23, 2007, 01:04:46 PM
kind of, except his went from wheel to wheel, so it could prevent the truck from turning

i think the boot will prevent the truck from turning, lol
:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

BLACKDOG

Quote from: jimbo74 on April 23, 2007, 01:13:39 PM
i think the boot will prevent the truck from turning, lol

:dunno: regardless, that isn't what I was describing.  His went through both front wheels. 
Sure, big anti theft device, but on a work truck, he just tossed it on the lumber rack when he wasn't using it.

He had one on his trailer too.
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

*ROKTOY*

Quote from: paxil4x4 on April 20, 2007, 09:09:34 PM
My 2 cents:

Install Alarm a good one Viper or Alpine

Get all your windows VIN etched

Pedal lock

Wheel locks

Install Tamper proof Torx bolts with nylock nuts on your license plates (why make a thieves life easy by leaving in stock hardware) so if he is thinking of swiping or switching plates he is going to have a BF.

Write down your serial numbers on your; Winch, Engine, trans and transfer case.  If your rig does get stolen you're not looking for anonymous parts. Hell even your battery has a serial number.

Use a paint pen and write your trucks VIN behind the tailgate access panel, inner door structure etc. Make sure to hide it. Again so if you find your parts you know they are yours, and can show the police something proving they are.

Don't leave valuables inside your truck i.e ipods, back packs, cell phones, school books  radar detectors, CD cases etc. Tweakers will steal anything that is not nailed down even if it means smashing out your window to steal .75 cents.

Keep only your registration and insurance in the glovebox or better yet on your person. Do not leave receipts for parts, upgrades etc.

Engrave/stamp any after market parts i.e ARB/TJM bumper Skid plates etc

Don't leave anything in your bed when you not out wheeling, at a job etc.   I have heard of rigs being stolen, just because of what was in the bed i.e construction tools, tile, steel, lumber, hardware, motorcycles, bikes etc.

Here is another good one write down your vin, name address and drivers licence number on a piece of paper. Fold the paper into a little square, wrap the paper in aluminum foil tape this in a tail lamp or turn signal in the back. When you find your truck and the asks how can you prove its your, tell him watch give me a Phillip's and than blow there minds.

*ROKTOY*

Quote from: BLACKDOG on April 23, 2007, 04:33:37 PM
:dunno: regardless, that isn't what I was describing.  His went through both front wheels. 
Sure, big anti theft device, but on a work truck, he just tossed it on the lumber rack when he wasn't using it.

He had one on his trailer too.

It don't stop a tow truck.

jimbo74

Quote from: toyguy86 on April 24, 2007, 01:24:37 PM
It don't stop a tow truck.


nothing is going to stop a tow truck... but then again, there probably arent too many car thieves that have tow trucks....
:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

*ROKTOY*

Quote from: jimbo74 on April 24, 2007, 01:34:49 PM

nothing is going to stop a tow truck... but then again, there probably arent too many car thieves that have tow trucks....

Don't bet the farm on it.

rednk1980

Im in Washington and in the last three weeks i know personally of four different toyotas that have been stolen and of those four the only thing found was a headlight bezzle and a bare frame.  :yikes:
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what about a fuel pump cut-off switch activated manually or by intrusion detection? for thieves on foot....
and for the tow-&-go thieves (like da repo-man)....i think this would work....
(4) 3" diameter tubing lengths a few inches more than the width of the truck. two for the front and two for the back wheels, the posts go in front and behind the tires. a pair of posts are welded together with a plate attching the two. the plate makes thses a permanant joint on one side, the other uses a hole in the tubing or a welded loop to attach a section of chain and padlock that effectively locks this device the tires. a straps go over the tires to each section of tubing. kinda like the tow trucks with the two forks use. the posts wont allow those forks under the tires, will seriously limit rolling, and will just appear waaaaay too much trouble to take. my :twocents:

if you're worried about the chain or lock being cut....another small section of steel tubing diamter enough to allow for the lock and chain to go inside, recess the attachment points into the tubing, many more clever tweaks...i  know i know, its like 100 lbs of theft deterent, but look at it this way.....at least if you catch the phukkr in da act, you'll have something bludgeon them with!!!  :_order:
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BLACKDOG

Quote from: toyguy86 on April 24, 2007, 01:24:37 PM
It don't stop a tow truck.

No, but it'll stop pretty much everyone else.  You can't stop everything.  And yeah, most theives don't have tow trucks. 

No matter what preventions you take, you cannot cover every base, there is always a chance of theft.  We just try to make it too difficult for someone to steal your vehicle. 
Couple examples of vehicles being stolen, ones that I know of personally that have happened in my area:
1. Lojak-car it was on was stolen from the driveway around midnight.  Woke up at 6, it was gone.  Car was found 75% stripped, dumped in a field, set on fire.

2.  Truck stored behind gate in the same area as a rott and 2 labs.  Theives waited until family was gone for an evening out, and torched the lock and chain on the gate, and killed 2 of the dogs and broke the 3rds jaw with a bat when they came after them.  Drove off in the truck after hot wiring it.

3.  Car with a club on it in HS.  theif cut the steering wheel with a hacksaw, and tossed the club, leaving it on the ground.

4.  Truck out in the country.  theives came and pushed it 1/2 out onto the main road where they had a flatbed.  Didn't even attempt to start the truck.

5.  Truck left in the country.  Had kill switches, club, the works, and was chained with 2" chain to a 2' diameter tree.  Theives watched the house, came in the middle of the day when everyone was at work, cut down the tree with a chainsaw, and pulled the truck onto a trailer.

Most of these were thought to be well protected.  But with time, and thought, a lot of stuff can get stolen.   We'd all like to think our stuff is instealable, but really, all we do is make it harder than the next guy's to steal, or easier to track down after the fact.
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

Nothingface5384

Quote from: 86rustbucket on August 05, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
i love your sig your down to a half of a maverick

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robrub00

399.95  i guess you can put a price on your vehicles safty
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NorCalToy

Quote from: Nothingface5384 on November 20, 2007, 06:00:40 PM
i know old thread....but
http://www.ravelco.com/index.htm
are all the keys the same? in the video it looks like they are. what is stopping a theif from buying one and using the key? i hope they arent all the same.
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no theyre not all the same, if that was the case i'm sure the equiped cars would have been broken into by now

WHY IS THE RAVELCO LARGER THAN MOST OF THE FLAT PLUG AND KEY TYPE ANTI THEFT DEVICES?

In order to maintain two separate major circuits and to handle the amperage put out by the electrical systems on most of today's vehicles, the RAVELCO cannot be made any smaller. Other anti theft devices offer only four to six different code combinations; THE RAVELCO HAS OVER 100,000! That is why it also has a ZERO FAILURE RATE!

Quote from: 86rustbucket on August 05, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
i love your sig your down to a half of a maverick

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64 LeSabre(sold)
82 RX7 (scrapped)
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87 Grand AM (junked)
79 Regal (sold)
90 Geo Prizm (R.I.P)

NorCalToy

Quote from: Nothingface5384 on November 24, 2007, 11:21:19 AM
no theyre not all the same, if that was the case i'm sure the equiped cars would have been broken into by now

WHY IS THE RAVELCO LARGER THAN MOST OF THE FLAT PLUG AND KEY TYPE ANTI THEFT DEVICES?

In order to maintain two separate major circuits and to handle the amperage put out by the electrical systems on most of today's vehicles, the RAVELCO cannot be made any smaller. Other anti theft devices offer only four to six different code combinations; THE RAVELCO HAS OVER 100,000! That is why it also has a ZERO FAILURE RATE!


i was 99.9% sure they werent the same, but in the movie if you pause it they all appear to be the same. :thumbs:
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Plekto

Long term storage, pulling the relays works well.  It's very hard to find them at a parts store and there's a paper trail if they do pay for them(the local store has to special order them in any case)  This works a bit better than the distributor and takes a few seconds to plug back in.(EFI only of course)

If they really want it, though... nothing's going to stop them short of a M60.

EDIT: The best method I ever saw was for a car(might work for a truck, too).  Limo services have this switch on the dash that they can trip that disables the running lights on one side of the car.  Police know this is a sign that they are in trouble/have an emergency.  It only works at night, but it's something that the driver won't see or notice while driving(nor will the passenger).


sigman

I run a CLUB style brake lock on the floor and a removeable GRANT steering wheel. So far no one has tried to take it. Lets hope it stays that way!!
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just run some electricity through your truck when you activate the alarm, and then when someone touches it, they act as the ground and get shocked.  :gap:
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I have what I think is the best anti-theft devices on both Yota's, and good insurance on the Chevy!!

And no, I'm not saying what they are. :gap:
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Sparkplug

how bout fab up a lock for ur brake pedal, then it wouldnt be able to move unless it was lifted off the ground, or dragged.
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Fearofrunner

Quote from: 81ToYbOtZ on February 17, 2008, 06:43:32 PM
how bout fab up a lock for ur brake pedal, then it wouldnt be able to move unless it was lifted off the ground, or dragged.

Then your brake lights would be on the whole time duh :)

Sparkplug

so wire a switch fot that, lol i dunno
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