Kiyul4130s rig

lilbuddy · February 14, 2008, 01:08:25 AM

haha

so I just saw your signature for the first time in a long time (i have mine turned off) and i started laughing so hard.

I totally forgot I said that. Thats amazing

Im leaving now fo sho

Ramrod · February 14, 2008, 06:21:44 AM

dude put new shackle bushings in there just to try it out

Sluice Box Hero · February 14, 2008, 05:48:23 PM

hes broke, and trust me, we checked everything. its either the way the tires are worn, the TREs are a little worn (the are 3 years old), the caster and the toe is off.

ive got a set of 6* shims for him, well do that and re-align the toe and whatnot. if that doesnt work then i want to dismount each of the front tires and flip them around to try and get the wear pattern different and see if that helps.

Callen

Rockcrawlintoy · February 14, 2008, 05:55:19 PM

when did the vibes start? was is after the trip or was it before?

Yota4life · February 14, 2008, 06:10:53 PM

He said a little before and then a lot after the trip...

i bet its a bent rim, loose trunnion bearings, or loose wheel bearings IF everything else is tight. Any play in the front will give it a chance to shuffle at higher speeds.

lilbuddy · February 14, 2008, 07:54:26 PM

Quote from: Yota4life on February 14, 2008, 06:10:53 PM
He said a little before and then a lot after the trip...

i bet its a bent rim, loose trunnion bearings, or loose wheel bearings IF everything else is tight. Any play in the front will give it a chance to shuffle at higher speeds.

I think he has a bent rim cause when i took his tires and rims to rubicon in october my truck vibrated sooooooooooooooo bad on the way down there. even aj said holy

this is bad cause it was pretty bad.

Doof · February 15, 2008, 12:00:44 AM

yeah it was pretty gnar looking out and being able to see the phyical lop from time to time. it was an intense vibration that was sketch

THK Matt · February 15, 2008, 04:54:13 AM

you figure it out

kiyul4130 · February 15, 2008, 10:20:00 AM

Quote from: Rockcrawlintoy on February 14, 2008, 05:55:19 PM
when did the vibes start? was is after the trip or was it before?

it had a a tiny amount of DW but then we toed out the tires late that night and it was gone enough to where i could drive it on the highway.

Quote from: LILBUDDY on February 14, 2008, 07:54:26 PM
I think he has a bent rim cause when i took his tires and rims to rubicon in october my truck vibrated sooooooooooooooo bad on the way down there. even aj said holy this is bad cause it was pretty bad.

ill try taking the pass tire and switching for a rear....

kiyul4130 · February 15, 2008, 09:25:22 PM

someone by my peice of

truck. its still fucked up and will not work. put shims in it tonight (4*) it helped even more. realized that the toe was screwed up so we pulled it back in hoping it would eliminate it all together, nope destroyed it even more. found out the nuts were loose on the pass side bottom knuckle. desided to retorque EVERYTHING. FUCKED. FUCKED FUCKED FUCKED FUCKED. someone by this peice of

...........lkasdfjasldkfj;

Duffil · February 15, 2008, 09:28:43 PM

I'll start the bidding at 100 bones.

kiyul4130 · February 15, 2008, 09:33:40 PM

i dont give a flying flopp what i get for it. someone get it out of my god damn site........im out of here.......

skipnrocks · February 15, 2008, 09:34:35 PM

Quote from: Duffil on February 15, 2008, 09:28:43 PM
I'll start the bidding at 100 bones.

Ill bid 75$

The bidding is going to start high and low bid wins, since everytime the rig is touched it gets worse...

Sluice Box Hero · February 15, 2008, 09:36:26 PM

i say pull all the weights off all the old tires then swap the rears to the front. they may help. other than that all you can do it start by replacing all the TREs.

Callen

Sluice Box Hero · February 15, 2008, 09:37:48 PM

have you thought about replacing the PS pump, that my help. i know your pump isnt doing much.

Callen

lilbuddy · February 16, 2008, 01:16:52 AM

dude his rims are destroyed theres no doubt about it. when i had those tires and rims on my truck it wobbled so bad and also hitting a STEEL GUARD RAIL at like 30 mph is not good on the rim.

TRY NEW TIRES AND RIMS AND SEE IF IT SOLVES ANY PROBLEM!!!

honestly with your

so far out of wack it probably just worked so *good* for those tires. now that everything is "perfect" thats probably why its so bad is because the rims have got to be so destroyed.

lilbuddy · February 16, 2008, 01:18:52 AM

.....whatever im probably wrong but i istill got my money on the tires and rims

and how did you align it? did you use the staple trick or did you take the tires off and actually clamp something to the rotor thats flat and straight (duh) and then do it that way? thats the only way to do it and get a perfectly accurate measurment.

Sluice Box Hero · February 16, 2008, 07:41:32 AM

actually the proper way to align a vehicle is to measure from the outside of the rim, but thats not logical unless you have a machine.

what we did was jack up the front and i had kyle spin the tires while i spray painted a stripe down the center of each wheel. then using a screwdriver i etched a perfect line through the paint while he continued to spin the tire, this gave up a "perfect" line in the center of the tire all the way around. then we set the truck back on the ground (which is the correct way to align a vehicle, with the weight on the tires) and had him setter the steering, then making sure the tires were straight as we could possibly get them we measured front and rear at half way up the tire.

it started out at 1.25 toed out, and in the end we had it even at 65" front and rear. ive done several DD trucks this way and every one of them has been near perfect.

im going to make kyle a deal, we pull all the weights off and rotate the tires and if it doesnt help then ill have them rebalanced myself.

Callen

kiyul4130 · February 16, 2008, 10:52:42 AM

Quote from: LILBUDDY on February 16, 2008, 01:16:52 AM
dude his rims are destroyed theres no doubt about it. when i had those tires and rims on my truck it wobbled so bad and also hitting a STEEL GUARD RAIL at like 30 mph is not good on the rim.

TRY NEW TIRES AND RIMS AND SEE IF IT SOLVES ANY PROBLEM!!!

honestly with your so far out of wack it probably just worked so *good* for those tires. now that everything is "perfect" thats probably why its so bad is because the rims have got to be so destroyed.

my rims are not floppin' destroyed. maybe 1 is bad. i have like 5 trips on these wheels. there not "destroyed"

lilbuddy · February 16, 2008, 11:02:47 AM

Quote from: kiyul4130 on February 16, 2008, 10:52:42 AM
my rims are not floppin' destroyed. maybe 1 is bad. i have like 5 trips on these wheels. there not "destroyed"

Well something is trashed with them because when they were on my 4 runner it was THE MOST UNPLEASANT AND WOBBLY RIDE I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED!

Dude with your rims and tires on my runner going 55, it was worse then my 40s un balanced going 75 in my tacoma. Im tellingyou dude, something is wrong with those rims and tires.

Yota4life · February 16, 2008, 11:10:49 AM

X2 on the tires and rims. Just having tires that are warn off camber will cause a wobble. If chris was having the same problem with them on his runner then its most likely the cause of the problem. Just try a different set kyle i bet it will be gone.....Process of elimination.

lilbuddy · February 16, 2008, 12:12:12 PM

Oh and yeah I will also go to bed your preload on your knuckles is bad and way too loose...

Rockcrawlintoy · February 16, 2008, 12:15:06 PM

ill give you 400 for the tires

Doof · February 16, 2008, 03:25:39 PM

whats it going to hurt by trying new rims and tires?

might as well. since you have done everything under the sun minus trying new wheels and rubbers.... what can it hurt?

Ramrod · February 16, 2008, 03:30:36 PM

just rotate the tires and you might be good

THK Matt · February 16, 2008, 04:29:50 PM

haha might look funny.... but for the sake of argument to see if it is the wheels and tires... try some like 31 stockers on stock wheels and see how it does.

lilbuddy · February 16, 2008, 06:01:03 PM

Well kyle hasnt chimed in yet but pretty muich i went over to callens and he was workin on kyles truck and what do you know...

The tire and rim that hit the guard rail, yeah that rim is DESTROYED!

Driving it down the road looks like you ar dribbling a basket ball because the tire bounces off the road. Its so sketchy. The other three arent that great either.... Only one is really actually even decent........

Quote from: kiyul4130 on February 16, 2008, 10:52:42 AM
my rims are not floppin' destroyed. maybe 1 is bad. i have like 5 trips on these wheels. there not "destroyed"

Rockcrawlintoy · February 16, 2008, 06:09:42 PM

yeah like a anything cant break after 5 trips

Yota4life · February 16, 2008, 07:39:45 PM

This isent surprising to me at all

...... What rim will stay true after a head on collision!!!!!???

Now fix yo

so we can actually wheel together next weekend.

Sluice Box Hero · February 16, 2008, 08:08:06 PM

its all good, we got the death wobble to go away, but he does need a new wheel now. i ended up putting it on the rear. lilbuddy and i went for a drive and it seriously was bouncing off the ground at about 50. its almost 1/2" out of round. the front is solid though.

so

if anyone has a spare wheel, or whatever that he can borrow for a while until he can afford a new one, we need one so we can all go on lil buddies bday run next saturday.

Callen

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