Vote on my Motor!!!

Started by *FFC*, October 05, 2005, 09:51:16 AM

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Which motor should I go with in the Amigo?

Toyota 3.0
2 (3%)
Isuzu 3.2
4 (6%)
Ford 4.9
1 (1.5%)
Chevy 4.3
16 (23.9%)
Toyota 22R
24 (35.8%)
Ford 289
2 (3%)
Jeep 4.0
1 (1.5%)
Something else
17 (25.4%)

Total Members Voted: 66

Ebbs15

Go with the toy 3.4  that thing is AWSOME... toy reliablity and power too! 

Rocksurfer

Quote from: FordFreakChik on October 05, 2005, 04:09:45 PM
:shhh: I haven't told it it's GM yet : :lipsrsealed:


:psss: Daddy made sure to tell it about big brother. :hahaha:
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What kinda idiot would even consider swapping IN a 3.0?  :hahaha: oh yeah, we're talkin about FFC. 

Just kidding.  Why not leave the amigo engine in it?  when you get heared enough, it's not like it'll matter anyway.  But igf you gotta put in a new motor, drop in a 4.3, why not :dunno: easy to work on, decent mileage, fairly reliable, and its not a ford!


:psss: sell your ford and buy a 2wd toy, use the amigo as a wheeler, and the toy as a parts getter, DD 
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unclejpl4x4

Quote from: OffRoadGal on October 05, 2005, 11:39:37 AM
POWERSTROKE IT  :banana:

Calm Down ORG  she said it's going in to her amego  not her  :psss:
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Rocksurfer

I don't see the problem with the mpg would be since your dd will be sucking a hole in your purse.
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79coyotefrg

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79coyotefrg

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mudmaster

4.3. I'm going to do it to my Toy
Time to go wheelin!

unclejpl4x4

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on October 05, 2005, 05:37:18 PM
http://www.isuzuengines.com/Products/Products.htm#

lol  thats funny... well.....   some  of our CAT  ecavators  have  some isuzi  moters in them
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79coyotefrg

isuzu makes the duramax diesel,  and they have been making diesels probably as long as CAT
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on October 05, 2005, 05:41:45 PM
lol  thats funny... well.....   some  of our CAT  ecavators  have  some isuzi  moters in them
what ??  um those little contractor excavators ??
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Rocksurfer

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on October 05, 2005, 05:45:44 PM
isuzu makes the duramax diesel,  and they have been making diesels probably as long as CAT


They also had/have a diesel that they put in the Isuzu PUP
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yotacrawler4

get the yota 22re, u can make it have around 140 for no more than 2500 , then gear the rig right and bam u have it, screw the 350 and all the crap , do u want to break :pokinit: and have to much power or not as much power and be a better drive and not break stuff, go with the screaming squirril 22re baby :beerchug:
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reklund5

Either build a hotrod Toyota 22RE, or install a 3RZ a'la BigMike.  The 3RZ would be SICK in your Amigo with a Toy trans/crawler setup.

Ryan
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'87 Supra, 400 HP.  smooth as glass at 130 'cause my tires are NEW!...
'92 F250 Diesel, tow rig, ATS Turbo, leveling kit, killer stereo

*FFC*

:slap: Blackdoggy

I put the 3.0 up there just as another option.  I'm seriously thinkin of goin with the P'UP Diesel, the 3.2 Isuzu, or a Taco motor.  Keep in mind this ain't happening for a LONG time.  I have to get more important stuff done first.  I may even keep the 2.6 just cuz it's awsome on gas and it's pretty durable... it doesn't sound like it but it's still goin.  Reminds me of my honda :yupyup:
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hudlenutz

Maybe it was supposed to be the 3.0 from the supra?   :crossed:

RHG

Buy the 350 thats been sitting in my shed all rebuilt and ready to go. I need it outa my way and I am not putting it in my Toy. Hell if you buy that thing I'll scrounge up a TH350 for ya and throw that in the deal as a freebie. :thumbs:
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FIREBALL

My vote is for a 22R. You can find a totaled yota with a good motor for pretty cheap. Then you'd have the motor, tranny, and tcase. Possibly even a front end. At the very least if it was an ifs truck you'd have a wide rear and the parts from the front to widen a yota solid axle.
The 22R is reliable, cheap to work on and will have very good power for a rig the size of your amigo. Then all's you need is gears for your tcase, or duals if you have the room and you're rockin.

I guess the big issue would be....are you still gonna smog it? If so, then you're going to have to smog it to which ever is newer. In this case putting a motor the same year or newer as the amigo would be the way to go.
Shoot, now with all this talkin i'm doin, maybe you should just go with the 3RZ. Might be a bit more money, but may be worth it in the long run. Less smog junk to transfer over, more power, compact, still yota so you can have your crawler.
Ooouuch, i'm gonna go take a nap now, i've got a headache.

Rocksurfer

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Willy Mammoth

The pup diesel won't need to be smoged, but won't have much power, but will get good mileage and have good low end torque. If speed or the lack there of isn't a concern then this may be a candidate. You will need to understand some about diesel or I would not mess with them.  You could leave the stock engine in it but there are no parts I know of that will work to give you a better low range and just more power is a waste if you can't go slow enough to have control. I guess what I am trying to say is your best choice for making a capable rig without going to extremes would be to go all Toyota like Fireball said. You could pick up a complete Toy for under 1k and have all the parts you need, plus you have a full list of custom parts to trick it out.


Does the Amigo have a full frame? If not I would re think the whole project.

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zuknstien

I voted 22r, but I would add the E to the end.
86 zuk
89 22RE(in zuk)
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Rocksurfer

Quote from: Willy Mammoth on October 06, 2005, 06:22:57 PM
The pup diesel won't need to be smoged, but won't have much power, but will get good mileage and have good low end torque. If speed or the lack there of isn't a concern then this may be a candidate. You will need to understand some about diesel or I would not mess with them.  You could leave the stock engine in it but there are no parts I know of that will work to give you a better low range and just more power is a waste if you can't go slow enough to have control. I guess what I am trying to say is your best choice for making a capable rig without going to extremes would be to go all Toyota like Fireball said. You could pick up a complete Toy for under 1k and have all the parts you need, plus you have a full list of custom parts to trick it out.


Does the Amigo have a full frame? If not I would re think the whole project.





Fully boxed frame just like a Toyota.
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kyle_22r

i'd go with the 3.2 or the 3.5 if you can find one.  pretty good engines from what i understand, and possible to do dual cases with a toyota tranny :ladys-man:

of course there's also the chevy 60* v6 engines, the 3.1 and 3.4 are pretty good but stay away from the 2.8, however a 3.1 or 3.4 will drop in if your rig came with a 2.8.

*FFC*

Quote from: Willy Mammoth on October 06, 2005, 06:22:57 PM


Does the Amigo have a full frame? If not I would re think the whole project.



:yesnod:

I'm just brainstorming guys.  I've been thinkin a lot and I like the idea of just gettin a totalled yota or rebuilding the stock motor that's in it.  I love my mpg I get now, and i know that a 22r ain't gonna beat it.  I'm tired i'll write more on this tomorrow :yawn:
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RODEOMAN

well if you do decide to make changes here are few suggestions,
1. Chebby 4.3
2. GM 3.8 supercharged
3. Isuzu 3.2 SOHC (Untill 1997) or 3.2 DOHC (98 and up)

As an Isuzu owner myself I can tell you that if you are going to go through the cost of swap, save your money and avoid Isuzu motor, not that is a bad motor, have one myself, there is just not a lot of aftermarket stuff for it. manual tranny is 5speed MUA5, it has 3.77 first gear, it is integrated with tcase which is 2.28.1 stock, not divorced, your lower gear option would be tera low gears $400, they will bump it to 3.07.1, I love mine. couple of the local guys are running dual Isuzu tcases as with auto tranny 4L30E tcase is divorced, basically they have made their own adapter and it is a really neat setup, something I am considering if I decide to keep mine. I do believe that low range is little lower with auto tranny but not by much. there isn't a lot of aftermarket, if you go with DOHC you can also step up to Alpine supercharger $$$$.
I would suggest check out 4x4wire.com on Isuzu talk and tech forums and do a search, ton of useful info.
There are few guys with 4.3V6, one is trying to go with Ford 5.0, and also I know of fella running 3.8 supercharged with AW4, Klune and D300 twinstick.
It boils down on how much you want to spend, but you will definetily have one cool rig. As far as your axles go you have corporate Isuzu 10 bolt front (19 spline) it can stand up to 33's no prob, there are guys running 35's, in the rear you will have either 10 bolt or 12 bolt I am not sure which. all of the newer Amigos (RODEO SPORTS) from 1998 and up had D44 and 4link coiled suspension. Hope this gets you pointed in right way. Adem
97 Rodeo - D44 F&R, Tera Low 3.07.1 tcase gears, custom armor, 35" BFG AT KO's and very special Rocky Mountains pinstriping paint job

Rocksurfer

Quote from: RODEOMAN on October 07, 2005, 04:45:02 AM
well if you do decide to make changes here are few suggestions,
1. Chebby 4.3
2. GM 3.8 supercharged
3. Isuzu 3.2 SOHC (Untill 1997) or 3.2 DOHC (98 and up)

As an Isuzu owner myself I can tell you that if you are going to go through the cost of swap, save your money and avoid Isuzu motor, not that is a bad motor, have one myself, there is just not a lot of aftermarket stuff for it. manual tranny is 5speed MUA5, it has 3.77 first gear, it is integrated with tcase which is 2.28.1 stock, not divorced, your lower gear option would be tera low gears $400, they will bump it to 3.07.1, I love mine. couple of the local guys are running dual Isuzu tcases as with auto tranny 4L30E tcase is divorced, basically they have made their own adapter and it is a really neat setup, something I am considering if I decide to keep mine. I do believe that low range is little lower with auto tranny but not by much. there isn't a lot of aftermarket, if you go with DOHC you can also step up to Alpine supercharger $$$$.


I would suggest check out 4x4wire.com on Isuzu talk and tech forums and do a search, ton of useful info.
There are few guys with 4.3V6, one is trying to go with Ford 5.0, and also I know of fella running 3.8 supercharged with AW4, Klune and D300 twinstick.
It boils down on how much you want to spend, but you will definetily have one cool rig. As far as your axles go you have corporate Isuzu 10 bolt front (19 spline) it can stand up to 33's no prob, there are guys running 35's, in the rear you will have either 10 bolt or 12 bolt I am not sure which. all of the newer Amigos (RODEO SPORTS) from 1998 and up had D44 and 4link coiled suspension. Hope this gets you pointed in right way. Adem




Sounds like someone who's btdt I'd listen to him, I considered an Isuzu in my options as I looked for  a wheeler and finally went with what I knew (Toyota) but if I get an SUV again a Rodeo is on my list since it has already been bobbed at the factory compared to a 4Runner.
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*FFC*

Quote from: RODEOMAN on October 07, 2005, 04:45:02 AM
well if you do decide to make changes here are few suggestions,
1. Chebby 4.3
2. GM 3.8 supercharged
3. Isuzu 3.2 SOHC (Untill 1997) or 3.2 DOHC (98 and up)

As an Isuzu owner myself I can tell you that if you are going to go through the cost of swap, save your money and avoid Isuzu motor, not that is a bad motor, have one myself, there is just not a lot of aftermarket stuff for it. manual tranny is 5speed MUA5, it has 3.77 first gear, it is integrated with tcase which is 2.28.1 stock, not divorced, your lower gear option would be tera low gears $400, they will bump it to 3.07.1, I love mine. couple of the local guys are running dual Isuzu tcases as with auto tranny 4L30E tcase is divorced, basically they have made their own adapter and it is a really neat setup, something I am considering if I decide to keep mine. I do believe that low range is little lower with auto tranny but not by much. there isn't a lot of aftermarket, if you go with DOHC you can also step up to Alpine supercharger $$$$.
I would suggest check out 4x4wire.com on Isuzu talk and tech forums and do a search, ton of useful info.
There are few guys with 4.3V6, one is trying to go with Ford 5.0, and also I know of fella running 3.8 supercharged with AW4, Klune and D300 twinstick.
It boils down on how much you want to spend, but you will definetily have one cool rig. As far as your axles go you have corporate Isuzu 10 bolt front (19 spline) it can stand up to 33's no prob, there are guys running 35's, in the rear you will have either 10 bolt or 12 bolt I am not sure which. all of the newer Amigos (RODEO SPORTS) from 1998 and up had D44 and 4link coiled suspension. Hope this gets you pointed in right way. Adem


Wow :bowdown: Thank you! :ladys-man:

Like I said this isn't happening for awhile but I thought Id get started on gettin other's opinions and ideas now.  Just wanted to shoot out a thanks to everyone putting in their  :twocents: The more input the better for me :thumbs: I am keeping my options open, and I'm thinkin that the right one will come along, with the vehicles that we go through, I'm bound to find something. 

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Rocksurfer

 :smack:  :slap: Duh, check out this web-site http://www.isuzu-mods.com/ the guy is a nieghbor and built his engine in his living room. I used to go into his place and there were parts everywhere. His is the green impulse. They do some crazy stuff to those motors.
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