3.0l diesel engines 4 conversion will bolt up 2 your trans

Started by [email protected], July 19, 2005, 10:55:15 PM

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red

i plan to do a diesel conversion sometime soon to my nissan pickup, just curious if the state of texas will allow it? some states wont allow a gas-diesel swap unless its a salvage title.
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wa4x4

I would swap in a deisel in my 94 4runner if someone could convince me 1. that deisels will last for a long time with good mpg and more reliable and 2. that i will be able to go faster in a stock 4runner with a diesel than with my 3.slow
2007 Satin white pearl STi- mostly stock
2006 WRX TR 320whp 343wtq, taken in a road rage wreck
1998 4runner, needs to become wheeler status

Bazzi

4runner body on a hilux frame = Hi-Runner.
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gathering parts for my goal which is
350 Chevy 700r4 auto to 2.28 x 4.70  and 4.88 9,5" cruisers diffs,diamondaxles and cable lockers, 44" richard cepecs

[email protected]

Quote from: wa4x4 on August 09, 2005, 12:17:02 AM
I would swap in a deisel in my 94 4runner if someone could convince me 1. that deisels will last for a long time with good mpg and more reliable and 2. that i will be able to go faster in a stock 4runner with a diesel than with my 3.slow
Quote from: wa4x4 on August 09, 2005, 12:17:02 AM
I would swap in a deisel in my 94 4runner if someone could convince me 1. that deisels will last for a long time with good mpg and more reliable and 2. that i will be able to go faster in a stock 4runner with a diesel than with my 3.slow
call dennis at all engine distributing 559-266 -3474 he can give you the info u r looking for and answer any questions u have about diesel conversions in cali.
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

[email protected]

check this out i went down to my pop's shop thursday and bolted up a 4cylinder trans and transfer case to the toyota 3l engine and took pictures and measurements and guess what it will bolt in the 4cylinder trucks ! the measurements are the same as the 22r,re engines i dont have the pictures yet but i will post them asap
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

AKADVENTURER

Is this a complete motor? Specs? Some links ?  I am building a truck and this sounds interesting. I would like to compare some figures.
3.4L compared to the 3.0L diesel.
Daily driver 92toy, black,  ext cab, 3.slow, 4WD

My brain is on overload wanting to build a T4 solid axle with a 3.4.

79coyotefrg

Quote from: [email protected] on August 13, 2005, 01:58:05 AM
check this out i went down to my pop's shop thursday and bolted up a 4cylinder trans and transfer case to the toyota 3l engine and took pictures and measurements and guess what it will bolt in the 4cylinder trucks ! the measurements are the same as the 22r,re engines i dont have the pictures yet but i will post them asap
come on there little grumpy buddy,  give pics and maybe some specs on these engines, along with current prices
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motorider228

yeah i also want to see some pics of this motor hooked up and all that and hear some more info on it.

[email protected]

you need 2 go to [email protected] and ask them 2 send pictures my computer dont work with their camera or call dennis at all engine distributing  and at 559-266-3474 he can send u all the info and pics
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

wa4x4

I need to know more information on this. How much is the tranny, will it bolt up to my stock t-case? What kind of MPG will I get. Will it fit in my 1994 4runner? How much would it cost to install it professionally. Where are the motors and trannys located? Thank you.
2007 Satin white pearl STi- mostly stock
2006 WRX TR 320whp 343wtq, taken in a road rage wreck
1998 4runner, needs to become wheeler status

[email protected]

read the posts contact Dennis at 559/266/3474 the engine is 3,000 brand new and it will bolt to your transmission the engine is in Fresno California ----again call Dennis at 559-266-3474 hes got all the info and it will get better milage than what u have now cause diesel engines are more efficient than gas u get more btu's from diesel than gas
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

Willy Mammoth

There sure is a lot of clatter here about an engine you can't seem to tell us about. We want pictures and specs for these engines, but you keep refering us to call. Sounds like a marketing ploy to me.

Do these engines have timing belts or are they gear drive or chain? Direct injection (mechanical) or common rail (electronic). What are the dimentions for this engine and how much does it way.

The more info you supply here the more chance you have of selling your engines here.

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[email protected]

look its not my engine i would give you the info and pics if i had them if you are really interested you'd pick up the phone and ask the questions to the person who has them instead of trashing my post and acting like an ass obviously you cant read cause the answer to your questions are here -its direct injection it has the same motor mount dimensions as the 4cylinder it will drop right in and bolt to your manual transmission any thing else you need u should talk to the guy who has them -comprehend or is trashing me and my post your real objective -as for selling this engine i really could care less -you cant afford it or you would spend the money and make the phone call  and have them send you the pics and info -i dont know what else to say
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

Willy Mammoth

Sounds like you said a mouth full, just trying to get more info here so more people can see it without having to make all those calls asking the same qustions. As for your other comments I will let it go it ain't worth starting anything. People know me better.

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79coyotefrg

Quote from: [email protected] on September 27, 2005, 04:22:27 AM
look its not my engine i would give you the info and pics if i had them if you are really interested you'd pick up the phone and ask the questions to the person who has them instead of trashing my post and acting like an ass obviously you cant read cause the answer to your questions are here -its direct injection it has the same motor mount dimensions as the 4cylinder it will drop right in and bolt to your manual transmission any thing else you need u should talk to the guy who has them -comprehend or is trashing me and my post your real objective -as for selling this engine i really could care less -you cant afford it or you would spend the money and make the phone call and have them send you the pics and info -i dont know what else to say
look like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning  :lipsrsealed:    or maybe he woke up in thedog house  :yikes:
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hudlenutz

A quick google search yielded:

Toyota 3.0L 'common rail' diesels in the Land Cruiser and Yaris for Europe and Canada.
http://www.dieselforum.org/background/international.html

Another sweet diesel, that we probably won't see here in the US:
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/paris_2004/0411_toyota_d4d/

I'm thinking the engine in question may be the 1KD-FTV?

Some discussion on offroadPakistan:  Ha.
http://www.offroadpakistan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=47

So... I'll look into this a little further. 

cavey

Quote from: [email protected] on July 19, 2005, 10:55:15 PM
i have acess to toyota's newest diesel 3.0l engines this will directly replace the old under powered 2.2+2.4L upgrade to a diesel and your truck will pull like no other stock gas rig 
these motors can also be turbo charged -email [email protected] for more info


here's my 2 cents worth from an aussie
  I have a diesel hilux / pickup  3L 2.8 litre  redlines at 4700 rpm is bolted to a G52 tranny  which is 3.9/ 1 first gear  110 kilometres per hour gives 3050 rpm  power is 60 kilowatts / 80 hp at4000rpm  torque is 183NM / 2400rpm   the truck weighs 1900 kilograms / 2100lbs and iget 25mpg on the highway
the new 3.0 litre engine  is a 1KZ-TE  with electronic fuel injection & a turbo  85kws at 3600rpm &295NM at 2400rpm or 100 hp / 370 ft/lbs
  in australia this engine is bolted to a landcruiser gearbox found in 78 & 100 series  type R15F
own a 1989  LN106r diesel with a 1KZ-T 3 litre turbo diesel  bolted to a imported R151F gearbox with snorkel Rancho springs & shocks & Detroit lockers F & R & 11x 32  cooper sst ultimate dual transfer cases 130 litre fuel tank   full floating disc brake rear end

[email protected]

the engine designation is 5L IT IS MECHANICAL FUEL INJECTED and is a u.s. engine and yes im grumpy sometimes im just passing on the info for what its worth i dont have any interest in this engine or any other as just tellin you guys whats out there  and whats new  i did some measureing on my 84  and found it WILL bolt into the  same place a 22r 22re will bolt how much easier can it get :dunno: this diesel is toyotas latest generation diesel  it replaces the earlier diesel engines and if its too much to make a phone call  you cannot buy it anyway because you would have too do that to purchase it any way as the outlet who has them does not do bussiness online only by phone or in person but these motors are out there if u look -- any way happy trails 
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

cavey

Quote from: cavey on October 06, 2005, 03:11:46 AM

here's my 2 cents worth from an aussie
  I have a diesel hilux / pickup  3L 2.8 litre  redlines at 4700 rpm is bolted to a G52 tranny  which is 3.9/ 1 first gear  110 kilometres per hour gives 3050 rpm  power is 60 kilowatts / 80 hp at4000rpm  torque is 183NM / 2400rpm   the truck weighs 1900 kilograms / 2100lbs and iget 25mpg on the highway
the new 3.0 litre engine  is a 1KZ-TE  with electronic fuel injection & a turbo  85kws at 3600rpm &295NM at 2400rpm or 100 hp / 370 ft/lbs
  in australia this engine is bolted to a landcruiser gearbox found in 78 & 100 series  type R15F
5L 65 kilowatts still bolted to the G52 TRANNY
own a 1989  LN106r diesel with a 1KZ-T 3 litre turbo diesel  bolted to a imported R151F gearbox with snorkel Rancho springs & shocks & Detroit lockers F & R & 11x 32  cooper sst ultimate dual transfer cases 130 litre fuel tank   full floating disc brake rear end

hudlenutz

the 5L engine was a mechanical injected diesel for the hilux.

Numbers for the efi equivalent motor are:
72kW@4000rpm
192Nm@2400rpm

Conversion to US units:

100 hp
141 ft-lb

Other than the benefits of a diesel motor, I see no benefit in swaping this engine into a rig.  My 22re gets more hp and about the same torque.

A motor I might consider is the 1KZ-TE turbo diesel, which used the R151 (&chain t-case from the R150?)

129 hp
253 ft-lb

or the newer 1KD-FTV
161hp
260 ft-lb

There are also larger diesels in the cruisers.  The 1hz, 1hd, and others are supposed to be pretty good, and still offer some common transmission options.

As someone will surely notice, the power numbers off these diesels still aren't all that impressive.  Why not go with a 3rz, the 3.4, or a small block.  The attraction to diesel engines is really the economy and the possibility of running on vegetable oil, while keeping the performance relative to current gas engine technology. 

some info at: http://www.toyotadiesel.com

Personally, with the cost of importing a diesel, the land cruiser diesels with the higher power numbers are appealing.  Many were available in Canada?  The 1HD-FT gets 168hp and 280 ft-lbs.

:dunno:

jr9162

The Toyota 1KZ-T and 1KZ-TE with OEM 5 speed bellhousing will bolt up to the US turbo R151F and 3.0 liter v6 R150F transmissions. Best upgrade for the engine is an OEM single mass flywheel and clutch versus the dual mass one some models came with.
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I see half cuts with the 1kz-t going for about $3600 with an automatic or about $5000 with a stick.  If you consider the costs of rebuilding your 22r and warming it up some it really doesn't seem too bad when you consider you get everything you need, plus will have a lot of parts you can sell off when you're done.
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BLACK SMOKE MAKES ME HORNY!! lol i love diesels. turn up the fuel pump and put a chip in with some stacks and a sick turbo and you can go rip :pokinit: out of the ground like its your job! Diesels are insaane.


jr9162

The 5L and 5L-E is Toyota's latest version of the L series diesels at 3.0 liters displacement. If you want to stick to mechanical fuel injection go with a 5L or the later 1KZ-T. The 'E' designator means electonic fuel injection and requires some sort of controller.

AFAIK, Toyota doesn't produce the 1KZ-T any more, but they do make the 5L and 5L-E. The standard gearbox behind a 5L or 5L-E is a G or W series tranny. However one can fit a R151F or 89-95 R150F to one using either a turbo 2L-T bellhousing or a R452 Dyna (150 cab chassis) bellhousing. AFAIK the 5L is still being offered new in the Dyna, and the 5L-E not too long ago in the HiLux. The L series Hilux and 4Runner engine mounts will bolt up where the 22R, 22R-E, or 22R-TE resided.

The 1KZ-T and 1KZ-TE bellhousing fits the R series gearboxes, and has a 160 mm input shaft, AFAIK.

The turbo Toyota diesel engines are notorious for cracking their aluminum heads. It's interesting to know that the 5L and 5L-E has an iron head. The 1KZ-T and -TE has an aluminum head. The 5L weighs less than a Buick v6 while the 1KZ weighs more.

In Australia there's several companies offering aftermarket turbo conversions for the 3L, 5L, and 5L-E. One can also use 2L-T intake, exhaust, and turbo charger on a 3L, or 5L. The CT-20 turbo may be somewhat small though.

I'd be interested in aquiring a NIB 5L with the Dyna R542 bellhousing and correct oil pan/motor mounts for an IFS application.

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Quote from: crawlerdan on August 05, 2005, 09:18:22 PM
i have a freins that put a 4cyl cummind deisel out of a farm tractor in his toy trekker-added a large dia. turbo, its hauls ass, and gets like 23 mpg :drool: :drooling:

I worked for Cummins Northwest in Renton, WA. There is a guy up there running a Cummins 4B in a flat fender. He dyno'd over 300 HP and 470 lb ft of torque at the rear wheels. He had the pump turned up and a turbo from a N-14 (14 liter Diesel engine) All this power ran through an NP465 and a Dana 300. 

[email protected]

just to let you know this engine and tranny set up will be on display at the tulare california farm show this week
look for the -all engine distributing space
its with the water pumping power units and diesel engines
been doin so much with so little for so long can almost do anything with nothing

8D3TOY

So if these (he has access to more than one?) are complete motors and parts can be had here in the U.S. I am in. Maybe someone in the Fresno area can call and go get some specs and pics to post up here so this guy won't have to awnser the same questions over and over again.  Maybe the smog tech guys can call some connections and get info on swap/smog here in California, I tried the referee station here but got no awnser will try again on monday.

bar

I have a 1991 toyota v6 3.0L gas engine, extra cab with 33 tires  4inch lift

Ok ok    I have been doing some research.
Don't you have to get exemption prior to engine exchange to different type?? And engine modification??
Years ago in smoke check 2; way back when I was a smog tec,  before dino era  referee stations determined pass fail or modified.
If modified then no $ amount to return rig to original configuration.

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I was considering a Cummins engine http://www.cmspower.com/PubDown.asp?Doc=CumminsDown/ISB_175_145.pdf

Unless you can provide complete engine with harness  and computer, intake, etc. for a drop in assembly to run?
Any recommendations, for diesel engine??
Do you know of a source I could get a diesel motor and how much??

 Thanks for any info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps  
This is the letter I e-mailed to Cummins on sat. below


length given on engines are from front crank pulley to back of bell housing
I would also like to get length from front crank pulley to back of block; less the bell housing assembly.

Ok:  how to introduce my self:  ??

I am a ford/Lincoln/mercury mechanic by trade. My name is Phil Dow.


I am modifying a pickup truck to take a diesel engine. I am in the process of looking for a complete engine assembly with
All wiring and computer to "drop" in the vehicle.

    0. Are price sheets available for below model numbers?
1.   Are the engines I looked at, models;  ISB145/170, ISB 260, B3.3, B3.9, B5.9  all available to be installed in a pickup truck ?
2.   What is the spec. of each model: height, width, length ?  
3.   What is the weight of each engine?
4.   Fuel consumption of each engine?
5.   Per hour or min, if possible??
6.   Do the engines come with every thing need to run? Such as injection pump, computer, intake, exhaust, wiring harnesses

I found most of the information on your web sight www.cummins.com very helpful; but need slightly more details to help make informed choice.