Author Topic: toy rears in front (Read 5913 times)

crawlerdan · « **on:** Jul 14, 2005, 07:46:13 PM »

if i add my stock rears, 3 leaf w/overload, to the front of my ifs rig when i sas, how high will it lift it/ anyone running these with no addaleaf? pics are always good!

MiniSimp · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 07:52:08 PM »

3 leaf rears in the front will be inverted with negative lift.
You need to add more leaves, 6-7 is about right.

crawlerdan · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 07:54:56 PM »

you think it would be lower than ifs?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 08:00:03 PM »

With only 3 leaves....yes.

Read through this post: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

Ramrod · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 08:56:53 PM »

I have a friend running completly stock rear springs up front on an 83. He loves them the overload leaf seems to keep them from going negative at ride height

crawlerdan · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:02:05 PM »

good stuff minisimp, ill add two leaves or so, i dont wnt alot of lift, 3 or 4 maybe

MiniSimp · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:19:34 PM »

Quote from: bigbluewillys on Jul 14, 2005, 08:56:53 PM

I have a friend running completly stock rear springs up front on an 83.

83 rear springs have 3" more arch than 84+ rear springs. Check out Roger Brown's site.

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspension-III.shtml#CustomSprings

83 rear main leaf on top, 85 rear main leaf on bottom

crawlerdan · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:21:03 PM »

i got 87 rears

MiniSimp · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:23:45 PM »

Here is what I made:

Quote from: MiniSimp on Feb 27, 2005, 07:40:36 PM

Built my spring pack for my "Rears up front"
They should be nice compared to my currently reversed springs.
Opened up the clamps. Need bushings.

Specs:
1st leaf: 85 1st leaf
2nd leaf: 85 2nd leaf
3rd leaf: 85 3rd leaf
4th leaf: 85 1st leaf cut down
5th leaf: 85 3rd leaf cut down
6th leaf: AAL

MiniSimp · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:24:41 PM »

Quote from: crawlerdan on Jul 14, 2005, 09:21:03 PM

i got 87 rears

Those are the same dimensions as my 85's

crawlerdan · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:26:53 PM »

i have access to 67 bronco rears, good adda leafs?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:30:56 PM »

Quote from: crawlerdan on Jul 14, 2005, 09:26:53 PM

i have access to 67 bronco rears, good adda leafs?

Depends on spring rate, arch, width.

crawlerdan · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:31:45 PM »

stock rate and low arch 2.5 wide

MiniSimp · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:32:31 PM »

Try them out, mix and match, find out what you are happy with.
That's the best way to find out.

crawlerdan · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:36:37 PM »

i agree, i just have no patience...

MiniSimp · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:37:35 PM »

Quote from: crawlerdan on Jul 14, 2005, 09:36:37 PM

i agree, i just have no patience...

Me either, which is ironic since my build is going so slow.

crawlerdan · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:39:01 PM »

well at least youve started, all i have is the cases, dual ultimate with twin sticks, all hand made by marlin....yummy

MiniSimp · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:42:24 PM »

Quote from: crawlerdan on Jul 14, 2005, 09:39:01 PM

all i have is the cases, dual ultimate with twin sticks, all hand made by marlin

Life is rough!

crawlerdan · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 09:49:10 PM »

ya, at least i got my cases

mr4x42u · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 10:44:42 PM »

you will have axle wrap so bad with just 3 leafs that under flex and load it will bust your u-joint from putting the yolk to max and it will bottom out..even with the over load..most of the time this is only a problem going up hill when the weight is off the springs,,,it can get real ugly upfront with only 3 leafs..

lilbuddy · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 14, 2005, 11:02:44 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on Jul 14, 2005, 07:52:08 PM

3 leaf rears in the front will be inverted with negative lift.
You need to add more leaves, 6-7 is about right.

I have 5 in mine and it gave me almost 4 inches of lift

dirtyskivies · « **Reply #21 on:** Jul 15, 2005, 10:49:06 AM »

ditch the overload, its a rock anchor

add 3 leaves you cut to fit below the 3 'rear' main leafs(no overload). the springs you add can be 6-7mm leafs near 2.5'' wide. keep all the spring clamps and even weld something across the top to keep them together...

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 15, 2005, 02:50:19 PM »

Quote from: dirtyskivies on Jul 15, 2005, 10:49:06 AM

ditch the overload, its a rock anchor

add 3 leaves you cut to fit below the 3 'rear' main leafs(no overload). the springs you add can be 6-7mm leafs near 2.5'' wide. keep all the spring clamps and even weld something across the top to keep them together...

Make sure you don't just toss the load leaf and not support the main pack, if you don't they'll bend and possible break. Always have a load leaf to a pack that requires one.

MiniSimp · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 15, 2005, 03:07:24 PM »

:bull crap:
Count how many people are using an overload leaf for their front springs (rears up front) in this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 15, 2005, 03:14:28 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on Jul 15, 2005, 03:07:24 PM

:bull crap:
Count how many people are using an overload leaf for their front springs (rears up front) in this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

How about 0, but we wouldn't want a misinformed MCBB member to be the first.

dirtyskivies · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 15, 2005, 04:09:25 PM »

Quote from: Rocksurfer on Jul 15, 2005, 02:50:19 PM

Make sure you don't just toss the load leaf and not support the main pack, if you don't they'll bend and possible break. Always have a load leaf to a pack that requires one.

huh?

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