toy rears in front

[crawlerdan]

if i add my stock rears, 3 leaf w/overload, to the front of my ifs rig when i sas, how high will it lift it/ anyone running these with no addaleaf? pics are always good!

[MiniSimp]

3 leaf rears in the front will be inverted with negative lift.
You need to add more leaves, 6-7 is about right.

[crawlerdan]

you think it would be lower than ifs?

[MiniSimp]

With only 3 leaves....yes.

Read through this post: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

[Ramrod]

I have a friend running completly stock rear springs up front on an 83.  He loves them the overload leaf seems to keep them from going negative at ride height

[crawlerdan]

good stuff minisimp, ill add two leaves or so, i dont wnt alot of lift, 3 or 4 maybe

[MiniSimp]

I have a friend running completly stock rear springs up front on an 83. 

83 rear springs have 3" more arch than 84+ rear springs. Check out Roger Brown's site.

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspension-III.shtml#CustomSprings

83 rear main leaf on top, 85 rear main leaf on bottom

[crawlerdan]

i got 87 rears

[MiniSimp]

Here is what I made:

Built my spring pack for my "Rears up front"
They should be nice compared to my currently reversed springs.
Opened up the clamps. Need bushings.

Specs:
1st leaf: 85 1st leaf
2nd leaf: 85 2nd leaf
3rd leaf: 85 3rd leaf
4th leaf: 85 1st leaf cut down
5th leaf: 85 3rd leaf cut down
6th leaf: AAL

[MiniSimp]

i got 87 rears

Those are the same dimensions as my 85's

[crawlerdan]

i have access to 67 bronco rears, good adda leafs?

[MiniSimp]

i have access to 67 bronco rears, good adda leafs?

Depends on spring rate, arch, width.

[crawlerdan]

stock rate and low arch 2.5 wide

[MiniSimp]

Try them out, mix and match, find out what you are happy with.
That's the best way to find out.

[crawlerdan]

i agree, i just have no patience...

[MiniSimp]

i agree, i just have no patience...

Me either, which is ironic since my build is going so slow.

[crawlerdan]

well at least youve started, all i have is the cases, dual ultimate with twin sticks, all hand made by marlin....yummy

[MiniSimp]

all i have is the cases, dual ultimate with twin sticks, all hand made by marlin

Life is rough!

[crawlerdan]

ya, at least i got my cases  

[mr4x42u]

you will have axle wrap so bad with just 3 leafs that under flex and load it will bust your u-joint from putting the yolk to max and it will bottom out..even with the over load..most of the time this is only a problem going up hill when the weight is off the springs,,,it can get real ugly upfront with only 3 leafs..

[lilbuddy]

3 leaf rears in the front will be inverted with negative lift.
You need to add more leaves, 6-7 is about right.

I have 5 in mine and it gave me almost 4 inches of lift

[dirtyskivies]

ditch the overload, its a rock anchor

add 3 leaves you cut to fit below the 3 'rear' main leafs(no overload). the springs you add can be 6-7mm leafs near 2.5'' wide. keep all the spring clamps and even weld something across the top to keep them together...

[Rocksurfer]

ditch the overload, its a rock anchor

add 3 leaves you cut to fit below the 3 'rear' main leafs(no overload). the springs you add can be 6-7mm leafs near 2.5'' wide. keep all the spring clamps and even weld something across the top to keep them together...

Make sure you don't just toss the load leaf and not support the main pack, if you don't they'll bend and possible break. Always have a load leaf to a pack that requires one.

[MiniSimp]

 :bull crap:
Count how many people are using an overload leaf for their front springs (rears up front) in this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

[Rocksurfer]

:bull crap:
Count how many people are using an overload leaf for their front springs (rears up front) in this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265669

How about 0, but we wouldn't want a misinformed MCBB member to be the first.

[dirtyskivies]

Make sure you don't just toss the load leaf and not support the main pack, if you don't they'll bend and possible break. Always have a load leaf to a pack that requires one.

huh?