Topic: all-pro leafs

[DFryou22]

O ok do u know where I can get a cheap body lift for a 1980 cuz Im not good at custom building stuff yet

[yotaneck13]

theyr like 80 bucks preformance accerys selles them and summit  brand new but makin one is easy ive seen threads on pirate... hockey pucks are exactly 1 inch thick so buy enough for all your mounts to do a 1 2 or 3 inch lift which ever is prefered center drill all of them to the diameter of your mount bolts then get some fiberglass matting and resin stack the pucks together to the desired height and wrap with the matting coated in resin let harden paint and theyr done...next pull all of your mount bolts from one side of your truck bed included and got to a hardware store and buy grade 8 bolts that are 3 inches longer (or 1 or 2 depending on your lift) if they have the same thread pattern get them theyre gonna be a metric fine  if not buy bolts washers lockwashers and lock nuts... rember you need to buy 2 of everybolt you pull out of the truck to mirror on the other side another thing when installing a body lift loosen both sides ot the cab and bed befor jacking up on it so it doesnt  put the body in a bind

[DFryou22 [OP]]

Well for me the body lift would be easy since I have the body and bed off of the frame right now because I am doing a full rebuild of my truck. I have a build thread if u want to look at it.http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=77649.0

[OOPS]

O alright so if I go over 3 in of lift I will have to do the high steer and a new driveline

Nope, none of the drivetrain is moved with a BL. That being said I would not put a 3" BL on my riding lawn mower, I have seen them break through the belly pan from the added leverage on the body mount bolts. Do not forget with a 3" BL you will need to also relocate your radiator, do something about your brake lines coming from the MC, re-adjust your e-brake,make your steering shaft longer from the colmun the the box, and get a longer flex tube for your gas filler.

[yoshaleng]

I agree w/ OOPS, body lifts are a big NO NO...not saying that it will happen but there's always a chance or possiblility of body roll and that can casue you to roll you truck too. Take your time and build it right the first time.

[yotaneck13]

see thats where i dissagree i have run bl'd on everything and ive never had one come through my floor body roll yes but its controlable if you kno about it if he buys a body lift from pa or summit it will come with all the nessassery relocation parts as well as the steering shaft extension and a firewall plate i was just throwing ideas out there so he could save some cash from doing the hi steer swap since that is pretty extensive mabuy go  some shakles and a spring with a 1inch bl and some fender trimming for his tires...another thing with the hockey puck lift theyr bigger than a normal lift block so they coner more area on your cab and mounts

[IronClad]

I agree w/ OOPS, body lifts are a big NO NO...not saying that it will happen but there's always a chance or possiblility of body roll and that can casue you to roll you truck too. Take your time and build it right the first time.

You're an idiot. please dont ever give any more help or info to anyone else. Saying there is a possibility of body roll due to having a body lift is like saying water is wet. Suspension lift/body lift  there is going to be body roll.

[yotaneck13]

Suspension lift/body lift  there is going to be body roll.

THANK YOU

[DFryou22 [OP]]

Damn theres some fighting goin on in this thread, sorry for making all this tension but I ment if I go over 3in in suspension lift then I will have to go to high steer and drive line

[yoshaleng]

don't worry about it, there some people here that just can't except other peoples opinions except for theirs....Somebody needs to get laid...LOL

[94MtnYote]

  ha ha cracks me up!

[yota4x4sc]

high steer is always a good call..but u can make the drive line work

[IronClad]

don't worry about it, there some people here that just can't except other peoples opinions except for theirs....Somebody needs to get laid...LOL

Im sorry how is it an opinion? Are you saying that if you go with a suspension lift instead of a body lift you wont get roll?

[DFryou22 [OP]]

O ok I think I will go with high steer when the money comes but for now I might just do a shackle or add a leaf. If I do add a leaf how do I lift the front.

[kneedownnate]

Suspension lift/body lift  there is going to be body roll.

What?  Oh right, like they both raise the center of gravity... oh, wait 

[IronClad]

What?  Oh right, like they both raise the center of gravity... oh, wait 

imagine that huh!

[DFryou22 [OP]]

so can someone tell me how if i do add a leaf on my truck doesnt add a leaf only add one to the rear. how does the front get lifted up.

[79coyotefrg]

so can someone tell me how if i do add a leaf on my truck doesnt add a leaf only add one to the rear. how does the front get lifted up.

no, you can add a leaf to both front and rear.
with the body off the frame now is the time to make a decision on what you want to do.
what do you want the truck to do?  daily driver and weekend hunting fishing wheeling rig or or a hard core run the rubicon and laugh HAHAHA because what you want in the end result is the question you need to answer.

[DFryou22 [OP]]

I want to make it a dd and a good offroad/rock crawler. But I don't have the money yet to do the high steer and everything else I have to do to do a good lift

[Phazertwo]

IMO a body lift has less roll potential that a suspension lift. It only lifts the body, not the heavier drive line components, fuel tank, and frame. Where as a suspension lifts EVERYTHING except un-sprung weight.  FWIW I have a 1 inch body lift on my rig, but that is so I can get to stuff easier with my dumb ass lumber jack hands, and lift my t-cases a little higher for a flatter belly.

I started with a jeep when I was 16 and moved to a yota when I was 18. I spent ALLOT of time doing a frame up restoration on an 85 before I got a killer deal on my current truck.  IMO take your time on the frame up and make the parts that you know you will be keeping nice! (IE the interior, the frame, the front axle). Past that SAVE YOUR MONEY and do it nice the first time.  Don't bother with a lift until you can slap some high steer on that bad boy (push pull sucks for flex, and if you lift it much it sucks for flex and steering). I would do some RUF (rears up front), I am on my 3rd try with springs, and they are good, but not quite what I want. Nice thing is its SUPER easy to yank them and add or remove a leaf.

If I were you, I would finish the frame up, get a decent set of 31" tires (BFG AT's or KM2's would be my preference, not sure if the KM2s come that small yet), and order a aussie or lockrite locker. Build yourself some sliders, and other body armor to protect your sheet metal. I REALLY REALLY wish I would have done my t-cases before I did my lift. When I went to 35's I hated wheeling because I could not "crawl" things the way I wanted.  That little truck will surprise the hell outa you with a good set of tires and a locker in the rear!  If you do all of this you will have some time to save some $$$ and do some more research!

My $.02!

PZ

PS I have a rough country lift on my DD, and I hate it. Wish I would have left it stock.

[DFryou22 [OP]]

thanks phazertwo good info

[1983 toylet]

You can get some lift from longer shackles, they're pretty inexpensive but you wont get a full 3"

[DFryou22 [OP]]

O alright

[OOPS]

You can get some lift from longer shackles, they're pretty inexpensive but you wont get a full 3"

The problem with long shackles is on the front it messes with the pinion angle and the camber, on the rear it messes with the pinion angle.

[DFryou22 [OP]]

Well so what will I have to do if I do the shackle lift

[OOPS]

Well so what will I have to do if I do the shackle lift

Rear --- cut and relocate the spring perches on the housing.

Front --- Cut and turn the knuckle balls in the housing

If you use shackles longer then 4.5 bolt hole to bolt hole in the front and have a single t-case you may get D-shaft bind on full droop on the P. side.

There is more to lifting a rig the bolting on stuff, things have to be reset up. If not you will have an ill handling, vibrating POS that will also be dangerous to drive on the street.

[DFryou22 [OP]]

alright thans for the good info oops