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rears up front - problem
« on: Oct 11, 2005, 09:33:07 AM »
I went with the rears up front when I did the SAS on my '89. I used a 5 leaf pack consisting of - '81 main pack minus the overload , and 2 more cut toyota leaves under that. It rides like a cadillac and flexes great , BUT here's the problem : when I get on a steep hill it is severely unloading the weight off of the front end. It feels like it's about to ride a wheelie.

What can I do to fix this ?  I was thinking of making an anti-wrap leaf to go on top of the spring pack ( like on marlins rear springs). Has anyone else had this problem  :headscratch:  If so what have you done to correct it ?

I would like to keep these springs , but if I can't get it fixed I'm just gonna fork out the coins for some Marlin front springs. Any advice is greatly apreciated. Thanks. :thumbs:
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Re: rears up front - problem
« Reply #1 on: Oct 11, 2005, 12:43:34 PM »
If the unloading is due to the axle wrap, put the overload back in.   I'm essentially running your 5 pack + the overload, and haven’t experienced any axle wrap worth mentioning.   Overload will help you axle wrap and won’t limit your droop.  It could limit your compression, but for me, I had to bump stop my springs @ flat before the overload even becomes an issue. 

Be sure to report back on how you resolve this!


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Re: rears up front - problem
« Reply #2 on: Oct 11, 2005, 10:15:44 PM »
Your not running enough spring to combat wrap.  I had the same issue and I have since changed a good bit of the setup to combat that issue.  I have a dropped hanger (maybe 1 1/2" over stock) and I am running shorter shackles so I have much less effective antisquat now.  Im also running a stiffer setup, I didnt lose any flaex by going stiffer but I gained a ton of control.
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Re: rears up front - problem
« Reply #3 on: Oct 12, 2005, 07:38:03 AM »
I think I'm gonna try to put an overload under the pack and make an anti wrap leaf to go on top. The '79 -'83 springs had two overload leafs , the regular one and a shorter one under that. I was thinking about using the shorter overload under my springs.  Maybe this will keep the springs from going negative too. I do need to stiffen up my springs a little . The front seems to be softer than the rear. I would rather have the front and rear about equal.

Anyone have a good suggestion for an anti-wrap leaf  :headscratch:

Thanks for the input  :biggthumpup:
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Re: rears up front - problem
« Reply #4 on: Oct 14, 2005, 05:04:05 PM »
you dont have the clamps on the leaves and the pack is fanning out rediculously  youll soon bust driveshaft parts or worse....

i busted a clamp and could pull my 14'' slip driveshaft apart if it flexed/fanned out just right. be carefull youll break some $$ stuff without the clamps.....
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